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By: Tommy Mack

Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:01:17 +0000

I think all records and films should be released on 1st January to give you the rest of the year to catch up. If something happens during the year like a war or a new type of hat and someone wants to write a song about it, they can put it on bandcamp or YouTube if they make a video. The charts can be done at the end of the year which means every #1 will be a Christmas #1. Obviously this will truncate the latter years of Popular but then that makes up for the 99/00 era when the top 10 changed so rapidly that DJs often couldn't play the whole song before people had got bored of it and were all like 'why are you still playing this granddad?'. Possibly.



By: Andrew Farrell

Thu, 26 Feb 2015 16:13:00 +0000

The US also, I believe, still has late December releases just in a few places (usually NY/LA) purely in order to get the film into the frame for the next Oscars (as opposed to the one after, where any film that the Academy hasn't seen since the previous January (one of the 'dump months') is generally considered dead in the water)



By: Mark M

Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:56:24 +0000

Re13: Ah, but there's a separate issue with films that don't have a pre-established or anticipated audience – with the number of cinemas being finite, local distributors often want to wait for a film to have picked up a buzz elsewhere before taking a punt on them. Films that played at Sundance (in January) and Cannes (in May) creep out around the world all that year and often the one after. Julianne Moore picked up a Bafta (as well as her Oscar) for Still Alice, a film that isn't out in the UK until 6 March, which I feel is not on.



By: Andrew Farrell

Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:29:05 +0000

And also of course speed of pirating and ease of distributing the copies... Ireland used to get particularly shafted - many a year that we saw the Oscars before the chance to see any of the nominees.



By: enitharmon

Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:26:35 +0000

And here's me thinking Friday was always release day...



By: Mark M

Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:20:44 +0000

Re10: In the digital era, with number of prints no longer an issue, blockbuster films are increasingly released near-simultaneously around the world. Not exactly on the same day, but within a couple of weeks. Here's Guardians Of The Galaxy, which I count as having been out in 42 countries (including the UK, which is now tends to be at the head of the queue) its first week. The losers seem to be non-German speaking Swiss people, who had to wait a fortnight (French speakers) or almost three months (Italian speakers).



By: Tom

Thu, 26 Feb 2015 13:19:15 +0000

One of the annoying things is that there's no chance of a global release date for TV and films, two areas where there's a genuine consumer benefit (avoiding spoilers) to everyone getting access at the same time. (Comics have one, and there seems to be no advantage in breaking it, but digital isn't as critical for comics yet as it is for music.)



By: Cumbrian

Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:55:37 +0000

I guess this rather depends on what you want the public to do. If Friday is a day of action, where people are simply to buy the music, then I suppose you could argue that the marketing of the music, the increase in the awareness of the release dates, etc, is all done prior to the Friday, so the weight of promotion will still be spread out over the course of the preceding days and weeks, which, in theory, ameliorates the problem. If Friday is just the day you want people to pay attention, you could well get drowned out. I'd agree that this seems somewhat unenforceable though. Are iTunes really going to tell Kanye or Taylor Swift to get bent if they want to release their album or latest single on a Monday? I am going to wager not. And wither the artists that just put their stuff out on their own websites or what have you - they're going to continue doing what works best for them aren't they? This seems like a solution in need of a problem, if you ask me.



By: Tom

Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:41:09 +0000

Two things I don't totally follow in the Guardian piece, though thinking about it the first explains the second. First is the idea that the level playing field will help acts compete worldwide on Twitter etc. Yes, but a global logjam of Friday releases will also mean an incredible concentration of promo noise at one point of the week. Presumably anyone breaking the Friday convention and releasing elsewhere in the week will have a massive advantage in terms of getting their signal out. So how is the global release day even enforceable? Second is the comment from the Mute guy about how this will hurt the little players - I suspect that promo concentration is what he's talking about: an attention economy is also one where cumulative advantage have a massive impact and smaller voices get drowned out. But it's a bit unclear.



By: Cumbrian

Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:01:52 +0000

Doh! I should have gone to the obvious source. Sorry.



By: Tom

Thu, 26 Feb 2015 11:56:55 +0000

They are looking to move it: http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/friday-confirmed-as-global-release-day-for-new-music__8203/



By: Cumbrian

Thu, 26 Feb 2015 11:25:17 +0000

Anyone know what this means for the charts: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/feb/26/new-music-to-be-released-on-fridays-worldwide-from-this-summer Will they now run Friday to Thursday instead of Monday to Sunday? If so, presumably there's going to be a "short" week at some point.



By: Dave

Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:38:18 +0000

Hi Kat and thanks for the welcome, my musical taste is broad, i grew up listening to so many different types of music, classical, rock, blues, pop, rock n roll, jazz, swing, soul, r n b to name a few. Music to me is about a feeling, emotion, if i hear something that grabs my soul i love it, depending on the mood i am in. I love it when i hear a new band or artist and their music is a fusion of influences creating a new sound, brit pop is the product of kids listening to the stones, small faces, beatles, kinks and their peers, thats what gave it the kick. If i listen to an album and dont feel the need to skip a track i am happy.



By: Geir H

Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:15:05 +0000

The pop charts decide what kind of unsigned bands will get the chance to have some exposure tomorrow. The better music is there in the charts, the better music you by bands who used to be unsigned you will have the chance to discover.



By: Kat

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:13:21 +0000

Hi Dave, welcome to FT! What sort of music do you like?



By: Dave

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 07:36:01 +0000

I have only discovered this site recently and just read this article.. Blah blah blah.. Pop charts arent an indicator of how good a song is, think of all those unsigned bands that will never be heard by the masses because some fat cat sitting on his sweaty arse didnt like what he heard on the demo, not that it wasnt great music but because he knew it wouldnt appeal to the highest demographic. The music industry like any other industry is run by accountants, soulless slaves to the folding stuff, they dont care what is being produced as long as it gets sold in huge amounts. Mr Blobby comes to mind.. since the preceding article was written we have seen the birth of You tube and it's competitors, The unsigned can be heard by masses day and night and it is a very interesting time for popular music.