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Updated: 2017-06-27T11:45:47.137+01:00


Scotland the Skint


Scotland the skint

Jailed for rudeness



Why sack bad teachers


Why sack bad teachers

Panic !


Crazy predictions

Child Benefit


Child Benefit con

Charity Ends at Home


If David Cameron didn’t know before, he surely knows it now: few political potatoes are as hot as the way the state hands out welfare cash. For a hundred years – from Lloyd George’s plan for retirement pensions, via the Beveridge Report seventy years ago and a succession of post-war strategies for state benefits – politicians of every stripe have tried to build a lasting settlement. The government’s Welfare Reform Bill is the latest attempt, and having as rough a ride as all the others.At one level, controversy is inevitable. Welfare reform is a detailed, messy business. Almost any change is likely to throw up stories of genuine, if atypical, losers who don’t deserve their ill-fortune. (The equally atypical, undeserving big winners tend to keep quiet about their good luck.) When the treasury is flush with cash, it can throw money at this particular problem. Reform when times are tight makes such stories impossible to avoid.However, what ministers can do is try to work with the grain of public opinion on the basic principles of reform. Where do voters stand on these principles? YouGov’s latest survey forProspect sought to find out.A number of different, though related, issues need to be teased apart: the affordability of the welfare system as a whole, our attitudes to redistribution, the extent to which people think the system is being abused, attitudes to specific recipient groups, and the enduring debate over universal versus targeted benefits. Let us consider each of these in turn.AffordabilityThe public’s verdict is emphatic: we think the current system is too expensive. We asked: In general, do you agree or disagree with this statement "The government pays out too much in benefits; welfare levels overall should be reduced?" As the graphic shows, a huge majority, 74%, agrees; only 17% disagree.As striking as the overall figure is the breadth of support for cutting back. Majorities in every group agree. Not surprisingly, support is lowest among those living on less than £10,000 a year – people who generally rely more on benefits than any other. But even here, more, 51%, agree than disagree, 35%.These figures contain clear warnings for Labour and Liberal Democrat politicians who oppose welfare reform. Labour voters agree with the statement by 59-32%, and Liberal Democrats by 74-15%. A generation ago, Labour activists were notoriously out of touch with the majority view among Labour voters. In recent years the gap between the two has closed. If the party is seen to reject significant welfare savings, it could open up again. (Cameron has no such problem with his ambition to spend less: Tory voters agree by 94-3%: an exceptionally rare margin for a subject of public controversy.)Otherwise the differences between different groups are notable for their modesty. Older voters agree more than younger voters, while people with professional or managerial jobs agree more than unskilled workers – but not by that much. As long as ministers can frame their argument in terms of affordability, rather than the impact of specific measures on specific families, they will have a big advantage in the battle for public opinion.Other YouGov research suggests that the affordability problem is not just a temporary consequence of these straightened times. Last spring we asked people about taxation and public spending. We listed the variety of taxes, and the different forms of public spending and asked, and asked how fair the system was. To some extent with spending, and to a greater extent with taxes, people thought the systems unfair.We then asked people to take all the different taxes and forms of spending into account, and posed this question: thinking about you and your immediate family, do you think the overall value of the benefits and public services you receive are worth more or less than the taxes you pay? A mere 8% said they were net gainers, while 55% s[...]



Why they will never piss off

Trade Unions



Trade Unions



School Madness


Classroom madness



Green Fascism

To Bloke


The socialist part of the name comes from the time of the early years of the party before Hitler joined. I `m guessing you are not a historian yourself bloke - Doh ! Oi fink not. He joined the Party after the war when it was still the German workers something or other you have kind of given yourself away there. Well if you are going to pontificate you really have to get it right matey. That the Nazi party slaughter it rivals does not show they are right wing in itself Stalin was also an energetic murderer of Bolsheviks in fact it is pretty much the MO of the left to conduct insanely bitter wars amongst themselves and generally denounce each other as Fascists ( a practice started by Lenin). I do take your point would be truer to say that Nazism emerged from the revolutionary left and became something else .Its use of Capitalism was just as superficial though and you cannot simply discount the period up to 1934 To quote Green intellectual( oh my sides shall split ) ) Alfie Stirling -“We are socialists . We are enemies of, deadly enemies of today’s capitalist economic system with its exploitation of the economically weak its unfair, its unfair wages system its immoral way olf judging human beings in terms of their wealth and their , instead of their responsibility and their performance”..nah it was Gregory Strasser but it’s the sort of bull crap he would spout . Is Strasser one of those heroic socialists ..or not ? He shared Hitler`s ethnic Nationalism which , remember, was associated with revolutionary Liberalism.Anyway Starsser co -existed with Hitler until ,as you say 1934, that’s not a foot note Bloke not a little warm up act , that’s most of the peacetime history of the Party !In 1936 Germany began to re-arm and it is my opinion that it was directed purely at war and simply used whatever came to hand . That this was private industry is true Capitalism works better than socialism and you know how single minded the Germans are..My remark” Its easy to read history backwards “ was made self deprecatingly, and precisely because I am well aware of the popularity of Mussolini who was seen as a “Progressive “ and was certainly emerged from the left. As he said .... "Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato" (Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State) . In fact his admirers were legion as we agree after all the Fascist manifesto of 1919 contains many things progressives still support. A minimum wage The participation of workers' representatives in the functions of industry commissions and so on . Mosley in Brtian wanted a State run bank… an idea with currency now. Mosley left the Labourt Party because it was insufficiently left wing ..I could go on.So I do not judge fans of The Duce of Italian Socialists ( as he was first known) unduly harshly myself and the year is important . Nonetheless it is a side of Irish nationalism that for some strange reason gets little attention( ho ho) and the salute looks kinda bad J .The enthusiasm of the left for eugenic policies itself is the subject of a book by uber trendy left Jonathan Friedland That is also why I glanced at the glib judgement of Rothermere frequently trotted out by Ken Livingstone .There is some justice in it but it looks quite different viewed through the prism of the war , or the “Emergency” as the “Neutral” Irish Free State called Since you ask …Hitler's racist rules for keeping out the Jew were still being used in Eire 8 years after his death.30 European Jews fleeing persecution were given asylum before the war, none during it, and only a handful afterwards, and that there was consistent government[...]



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What The English Think



Take The High Road


They must be the world`s nastiest nation. I refer, of course, to the mean thin lipped Pictish hord we call Scotland. The union only happened because their hubristic South American Darien scheme flopped and we had to bail them out. Same with the Scottish banking fiasco and it is mostly Scottish, £197 billion exposure to toxic debt courtesy RBS whose bonkers acquisition of ABN ( personally applauded by Salmon) he is now saying is our problem.( We had a Scottish PM and Chancellor at the time who were busily piling up more debts for us as well as not watching the shop ). What`s the betting that the Pension black hole their years of stale socialism have left will also be ‘British’ not ‘Scottish’
Didn`t take them long ,after our generous union hand out to come down all tartan and "I `m greet m, " with a Jacobite army which got as far as Derby. Typical.
They complain about “English law in Scotland” whilst we put up with Scots Raj for ten years stuffed with Mac MPs treating us like mendicants at the desk of a fat moist lipped bank manager. They are prodigiously over represented in England whilst retaining Scotland for themselves ( *put in own West Lothian Rant to taste* )
They are drunker, more violent and vastly more racist than we are, and the only time they have not been busily starting fights is when we packed the off to profiteer around the world as the chief beneficiaries of Empire
They think of themselves romantic but their one poet is a novelty act of second rank which they don’t read .Their misty eyed Nationalism was a cranky hobby until the first barrel of black stuff turned up and no amount of Barnett Formula hand outs will lance their greedy boil illusory though it is .
No English voice is allowed in Scottish public life whilst we happily submit to Scots infesting even nook and cranny, even our own Scottish MP Norman Mac Baker is always at the fore when it comes to giving up English rights either in Europe or to his fellow Scots . Hadrian’s wall was the most fortified border in the Roman Empire , there is a reason for that !

They want referendum on Devo Max …,fine. I want a referendum where decide whether we want them at all, and if, we do, on what terms will continue to out up with the worlds nastiest Nation.

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Thinking Points


Thinking Points



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Labour Run For Cover


Tax and Spend

Employment Tribunal


Employment Tribunal

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