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Comment on In response to Owen Jones: how we can stop Brexit by Top of the Blogs: The Lib Dem Golden Dozen #501

Sun, 07 Jan 2018 21:00:56 +0000

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Fri, 15 Dec 2017 10:26:18 +0000

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Comment on Things Tim Farron doesn’t understand: Atheism by Martin Cooper

Mon, 11 Dec 2017 14:46:05 +0000

Tim was quite right that a lot of what is Liberal came from Christianity. I remember asking my father if his grand parents would have voted for Gladstone, he said I supposes they must have, they were Methodists. When I lived in North Devon in the days of Jeremy Thorpe and I was beginning to be interested in politics, I was talking to an activist in the works canteen, who pointed out, that locally Chapel voted Liberal, while Cof E voted Tory.
I had a very evangelical family and no doubt many of my Liberal values match the values I was brought with. I am no longer able to believe in any thing supernatural, let alone a loving god. Which I think is a pity because then I could believe everything will be alright in the end. Lucky old Tim, he can still cling on to his hope.
What I disagreed with him about was his assertion that having a conscience was proof of god.
Let him believe what he likes and we can have our own view of things, what is important is that we are the party of nice caring people and there is plenty of room for all sorts.




Comment on Things Tim Farron doesn’t understand: Atheism by Top of the Blogs: The Lib Dem Golden Dozen #498

Sun, 10 Dec 2017 21:02:21 +0000

[…] Things Tim Farron doesn’t understand: Atheism  by Nick Barlow  on What you can get away with . Tim says that atheists have no common values. […]



Comment on Things Tim Farron doesn’t understand: Atheism by Barry C

Wed, 06 Dec 2017 08:34:54 +0000

Can I agree with both of you? You need to know that I write as a committed Christian and I see a strong ‘anti-faith’ and specifically anti-Christian attitude within the liberal democatic party which makes it hard for people of faith to stand with the lib-dems (but even so I am a member). It is a vast over-simplification to equate the right wing of trump, liberal quakerism and everything in between in one basket. The 80/20 rule applies in this as in most situations. The majority of Christians fit quietly into the 80%. Equally the reaction to that should not be to come up with silly convoluted arguments saying ‘atheists believe in nothing ergo for atheists nothing is their god’. We need to learn to honour each other and the lib dem party needs to learn to role back and allow people of faith a space and a voice. We are no less children of God / citizens on this earth no matter what our faith perspective.



Comment on Things Tim Farron doesn’t understand: Atheism by tierveil

Tue, 05 Dec 2017 20:48:01 +0000

Do you truly not understand just how insulting that is? A wholly toxic cocktail of smugness, judgementalism, arrogance and overweening presumptuousness, all in one sentence. Are you absolutely sure that the higher power you seem to want everyone to believe in isn’t merely your own reflection?



Comment on Things Tim Farron doesn’t understand: Atheism by Nick

Tue, 05 Dec 2017 10:41:51 +0000

"If you believe in one less god than Tim, you’re suggesting there might be a god somewhere you could believe in?" I think you're missing the point that there's a very big difference between zero and one in this situation. "a religion by definition: a belief in something which cannot be proven" Do you believe dragons exist? If not, is your belief in the non-existence of dragons a religion? You seem to have missed out the idea that you can't prove a negative, unless you believe I belong to countless religions all based around things I don't believe in the existence of.



Comment on Things Tim Farron doesn’t understand: Atheism by shed2016

Tue, 05 Dec 2017 09:56:37 +0000

If you believe in one less god than Tim, you're suggesting there might be a god somewhere you could believe in? Which makes you an agnostic. If you say there is definitely no god of any kind, that is a positive belief in the non existence of God and you're an atheist, which is a religion by definition: a belief in something which cannot be proven. Tim didn't phrase it quite like that but that's what I think he meant. And it's too easy to write off ideas you don't like as cliché - that's just a cheap shot.



Comment on Things Tim Farron doesn’t understand: Atheism by Joanna Day

Mon, 04 Dec 2017 19:47:40 +0000

Atheists don’t have a faith. Everything atheists believe in is open to question, and if it doesnt meet evidenciary standards, atheists will stop believing in it



Comment on Things Tim Farron doesn’t understand: Atheism by Roger W Turner

Mon, 04 Dec 2017 14:57:27 +0000

I believe in an inner light very much in the Quaker sense except that I don’t believe it comes from outside.