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I've had a chance to do some thinking and I have ...

2007-01-12T19:30:00.000-05:00

I've had a chance to do some thinking and I have come to the conclusion that Genesis Two is taking day six and just expanding upon it. It is making note of just how important the creation of man was. It makes sense to think this because otherwise it makes no sense! :) I know, imperfect female logic...but don't knock what works!

There was no "first" wife. And I have to admit, I don't quite get how people would think there was a "first wife". Eve was Eve. No mention of a Lilith in the bible anywhere that I know of.

There was no invention of Genesis. Genesis, like all of scripture is God breathed, God inspired. Moses was just a tool to get it in writing.

Nancy, thanks for the resource, sounds like a book to check out sometime.

Matthew thank you for your words of insight, made me think a bit deeper. :)

Martin, sometimes that's just all we can do, accept God's word as indeed God's word.

Ed... what can I say? You totally shocked me with the whole Lilith and second wife thing. Still makes no sense to me when I look at the bible, so I gotta say, it makes no sense to me.



The best book I've read about this (besides the Bi...

2007-01-12T12:40:00.000-05:00

The best book I've read about this (besides the Bible of course!) is Anne Graham Lotz's book "God's Story - the first 11 chapters of Genesis" She really clears it all up and she's a wonderful straight forward writer.

Nancy
http://teachingsundayschool.blogspot.com



The ancient rabbis -- say, 3,000 years ago -- noti...

2007-01-04T00:20:00.000-05:00

The ancient rabbis -- say, 3,000 years ago -- noticed the differences, but knew that the two stories come from two different traditions. One group argued that the stuff has to be taken literally -- and in trying to square that idea, noticed that it produces the question, "what happened to that woman created with Adam in Genesis 1?"

That woman, they decided, must have been Adam's first wife. Talmudic tradition says she was cast out of Eden because she refused to submit to Adam, and became a demon of the deserts and of the night -- Lilith. The woman in Genesis 2? Adam's second wife, Eve.

Now, I don't offer that to suggest it's fully accurate. I merely offer it to note that the ancients understood those two books are in conflict, and we know that because we have the stories of Lilith.

Genesis 1 was invented during the Babylonian captivity. It lists the Babylonian order of creation, but with a twist: Instead of each of those things created being minor gods, it is the God of Israel who has created all of those things. The point of the story was that the God of the Israelites is the one true God, who created those things the Babylonians worship as gods. It was done in a verse form to make it easy to memorize, to remind the captive Israelites of the faith of their fathers, to keep the faith alive.

There really is quite a bit of writing on the topic of the contradictions between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2. Until recently, few if any suggested that they were just an imperfect retelling of the same story to add detail.



There are a number of possibilities for dealing wi...

2007-01-03T19:38:00.000-05:00

There are a number of possibilities for dealing with this tension. First off, "plants of the field" and "beasts of the field" does not mean all plants or all animals. It means domesticated plants and domesticated plants, respectively. The second point is to notice that Genesis 1:1-2:3 is the creation account and is one section in the Hebrew narrative. The second section is divided into three parts: the remainder of chapter 2, chapter 3 and chapter 4. While the first section is in chronological order, the second is not. Finally, there is a possibility of translating Genesis 2:9 as "...the LORD God had formed every beast of the field...".

Hope this information helps.



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2007-01-03T08:00:00.000-05:00

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I've thought about this, and lots of other people ...

2007-01-03T07:59:00.000-05:00

I've thought about this, and lots of other people have. I can't explain it, except to say that just accepting Genesis 1 & 2 as a simple, straightforward, literal account of what happened doesn't seem to be a viable option, based on what the chapters, themselves, have to say.