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By: Sappho

Mon, 13 Aug 2007 04:20:46 +0000

kfry, thanks for the clarification. I'll check out your blog. Yeah, things like shifts in lay/clergy relations, liturgical reform, etc., tend to be of more significance within the church than in the media. I remember when the debate on ordaining women was going on within the Episcopal Church, the new prayerbook was just as big a deal internally, but not so much to the secular world, since, unlike the ordination of women, it didn't have any obvious tie in to movements outside the church. Jose, I take it that the gay-friendly set of Lutherans wanted to get at least one resolution passed that said that "chaste" means committed and monogamous, rather than heterosexual, as well letting said partnered pastors to be less closeted, and that the side that wanted the other proposed resolutions deferred were OK with a resolution letting bishops do what some were quietly doing anyway, but weren't prepared to agree to any kind of permanent approval of pastors in same-sex relationships. But then, I'm just guessing on why this resolution passed and the stronger gay pastors are OK one didn't; I'm not up on Lutheran church politics.



By: José Solano

Mon, 13 Aug 2007 01:19:51 +0000

What is "a mutual, chaste, and faithful committed same-gender relationship"? Sounds like the classic oxymoron to me.



By: kfry

Sun, 12 Aug 2007 02:54:26 +0000

Thanks for a great blog. Father Jake is right about postponing most resolutions but I'm not sure what did get passed is even all that important. I was there and blogging about it at http://reclaimingthefword.com. From my perspective, the thing the ELCA did that may actually have the most IMPACT (unlike passing resolutions about Palestine and Iraq that too few will ever read or pay attention to) is the election of a lay person to the powerful position of church secretary. In a church filled with rampant clericalism, this is a move that reflects deep frustration among the laity...and is, perhaps, an indicator of good things to come.