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Comments on Sean Michael Lucas: Cheese, Fundamentalism, and the Antithesis, no. 1





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Hi, KC: In the context about which I was writing, ...

2007-08-21T15:37:00.001-05:00

Hi, KC: In the context about which I was writing, I was thinking specifically of primary and secondary schools (especially in reference to that sentence) and then more largely in regard to undergraduate education. As a result, GPTS would not fall into the conversation that I was pursuing. best, sml




2007-08-21T15:37:00.000-05:00

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Dr. Lucas:You mentioned that BJU would be a good o...

2007-08-20T11:55:00.000-05:00

Dr. Lucas:

You mentioned that BJU would be a good option "if there is not a good Reformed/Presbyterian school in your town (as in Greenville)." In your opinion, would Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminay qualify as a "good" seminary? Or was the statement reflective of undergraduate schools?



Thanks Sean for the explanation and my apologies i...

2007-08-17T00:12:00.000-05:00

Thanks Sean for the explanation and my apologies if I reacted in haste before you had the opportunity to reply.

I also would agree wholeheartedly with the Education I received at BJU both Academically and Spiritually. It was second to none in my book. Unfortuntely I ran into some roadblocks when trying to obtain my MBA as even the University of Phoenix will not accept my undergraduate degree from BJU because it was not accredited at the time I attended. I contacted the Registar at BJU and he basically told me "Good Luck". Now that it is accredited I don't see students having as many roadblocks.

With regard to the Legalism and Arminianism at BJU I'm not sure I'd even consider it as an option for my children. I became a Calvinist at BJU under the influence of Dr Terry Rude, Dr Michael Barrett, and Dr Beale. It was Bible Doctrines class where I first read about the Decrees of God. (Supralapsarianism, Infralapsarianism, etc). But from what I understand that influence is now a thing of the past even to the point of recommending anti-Calvinist books, etc.

I appreciate your candor with regard to BJU as an option for your children and can understand why based on the merits of both the Academic and Spiritual discipline your children would recieve at the "University" I just couldn't make that choice based on the mixed message I would be sending my children in the process. But let every man be convinced in his own mind and as such I respect your position.

Kind Regards, Wayne



Sorry, Wayne, that I didn't respond; didn't mean t...

2007-08-16T12:13:00.000-05:00

Sorry, Wayne, that I didn't respond; didn't mean to offend. Let me see if I can take these questions and answer them, albeit it briefly.

In terms of unpacking that quote, I guess I basically meant that it is a good thing to partner with fundamentalist Protestants--they believe the gospel too. And, that may mean sending one's kids to their schools, especially if there is not a good Reformed/Presbyterian school in your town (as in Greenville).

In response to your second paragraph, I know a lot of fundamentalists who would gladly have my kids in their schools. They may not want me to preach in their pulpits (then again, that is more a Baptist thing than a fundamentalist thing); and depending on how far to the right you go on the fundamentalist spectrum there are differing opinions. Still, I'm not sure your ancedotal evidence would disqualify my basic point.

I am saying that BJU will be one of the schools we consider when my kids go to college. My wife and I both felt that we got a good education there and that we were appropriately restrained morally and socially. And so, it would be a school that we would consider (along with Covenant College and a number of other schools).

I don't have time to answer the partnering question--but the short answer to that is, yes.

Hope that helps--please know that the reason I didn't reply to this was not from lack of interest, but from lack of time. best, sml



Yes thanks Baus for the link if nothing more than ...

2007-08-15T00:23:00.000-05:00

Yes thanks Baus for the link if nothing more than the courtesy of a response.



Very important response to this topic HERE:http://...

2007-08-12T03:26:00.000-05:00

Very important response to this topic HERE:
http://prosthesis.blogspot.com/2007/08/dooyeweerd-antithesis-and-common-grace.html



"And so, Reformed catholicity forces me to affirm ...

2007-08-07T20:38:00.000-05:00

"And so, Reformed catholicity forces me to affirm that it is a good thing to partner with fundamentalist believers, like those at BJU, for the Gospel and even send our kids to their Christian schools." -- Dr Lucas

Welcome Back from Vacation Dr Lucas!

Can you unpack this for me?

How can we partner with Fundamentalist believers who believe to associate with us is sin? I have 3 close friends from BJU, all Pastors. 1) The 1st has always kept in touch and is now Evangelical but his former church plant now looks like it is becoming Reformed. 2) One has become a Reformed Baptist as a result of my influence and of course God's leading. and 3) The 3rd one who still is an ironclad Fundamentalist really doesn't keep in touch with me anymore because his Fundamentalist convictions are always in conflict with my Reformed brand of Christianity.

Do you have examples of where you were able to successfully partner with Fundamentalists other than your family in your current role for the advancement of the Gospel?

Also are you saying that you would send your children to BJU? Or are you referring to secondary and post-secondary education? I don't have children as of yet but couldn't even fathom sending my children to BJU. As far as secondary or postsecondary I could understand doing so if there were no other options in your area, but even then I might consider moving to an area with a Classical Christian School?

What are your thoughts?

Kind Regards,

Wayne