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Comment on Cultured Meat Confusion: The Answer Is Veganism And Always Has Been by rusical1122

Wed, 22 Mar 2017 05:54:00 +0000

I believe there is definitely an argument against cultured meat, but I'm confused by the arguments the author chose to make in this post. Like, why is there such an emphasis on cost and this critique of class privilege? Cultured meat is a burgeoning technology, one that's still heavily reliant on research and has yet to produce any kind of consumer-facing product. The cost of cultured meat currently possesses zero indicators for how expensive it may be in the future. The first personal computers IBM manufactured were $55,000. The first cars were powered by steam, in addition to being prohibitively expensive for anyone outside the ultra-rich. It seems the ethical objection and the wrongness of using animals for any purpose is what's at the heart of this post. Why waste arguing about the costs of it, or conflating clean meat with the moral dubiousness of vegetarianism when it's clear The Telegraph was clearly brushing vegetarianism with a broad brush? Instead, the main premises of the argument here are left unsupported. Namely, that a collection of cells is an animal. Why should we give moral consideration to a collection of cells? How do we know people will respond to lab-grown meat by remaining "remain open to the idea that we can use non-cultured versions of these products."? Who's to say being presented with the option to purchase clean meat will not magnify the harm committed by traditional slaughter to consumers?

Comment on Speciesist Vegans by Vanda Kadas

Wed, 22 Mar 2017 05:24:00 +0000

Dear Cenk Tekin: if saying it as it is happens to be the new "delusional", then I wish all of us, vegan educators were delusional. I am grateful you find truth telling "amusing". Unfortunately the animals are not at all amused by being treated as things though and discarded as such at the end. Somebody has to say it as it is or else nothing will ever change for the animals. Ben Frost, and we, other Abolitionist Approach Vegan educators do just that. We educate about veganism unequivocally so we leave no animals behind. That's right./!/

Comment on Simon Amstell Causing ‘Carnage’ For Animals With His New “Mockumentary” by Joel Instone

Wed, 22 Mar 2017 00:58:00 +0000

Are you insane? No, wait, you are CLEARLY trolling. Hard. No one could be this stupid (well, they could, and are, but not someone this literate). I am furiously passionate vegan, who believes that it is the single most important meta-issue of our time, and I think this film is the best thing I have ever seen for 'the cause'. It kicks Cowspiracy into touch. In terms of advocacy, I cannot imagine anything more effective. The fact that you call [“If at any point Carnage became on paper preachy or annoying, we made sure something really funny was really near to that bit so people would be laughing rather than feeling judged.”] 'sheer stupidity', rather than 'obvious necessity', is nearly enough to prove your troll status beyond all reasonable doubt. But if it weren't, the fact that you talk about the fictional pro-meat Youtubers segments as making veganism look bad, when this character is portrayed as pretty much as hateful and unpleasant as it's possible to be (it shows him snapping and preparing to burn his own dog alive for fucks sake!)... you know what you're doing. So I guess you're either ultimately pushing a covert carnist agenda, or you're a mega-troll for money, or, maybe, you really are THIS obtuse?!? Nah, canne be. "if you are a person who currently eats animals and you think vegans are ridiculous, then this is the film for you" ...yes because it should CHANGE YOUR FUCKING MIND! But you're troll, so I'll stop this comment now.

Comment on Simon Amstell Causing ‘Carnage’ For Animals With His New “Mockumentary” by lel

Wed, 22 Mar 2017 00:28:00 +0000

even as a vegan this article makes me want to eat the writer and his pets

Comment on Simon Amstell Causing ‘Carnage’ For Animals With His New “Mockumentary” by Joanna Farr

Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:20:00 +0000

I couldn't agree with you more Jelu!! Thank you for expressing so beautifully the rage I felt reading this drivel.

Comment on Simon Amstell Causing ‘Carnage’ For Animals With His New “Mockumentary” by Daniel Stoker

Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:28:00 +0000

I decided to visit this blog today because I suspected that Ben Frost would have something disparaging to say about "Carnage", and I was proved right. All he seems to do is attack other people on Ecorazzi. It's the reason why I don't stop by here more often.

Comment on Simon Amstell Causing ‘Carnage’ For Animals With His New “Mockumentary” by Daniel

Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:20:00 +0000

I suspect that Ben Frost doesn't have much of a sense of humour. I'd be grateful if he could provide us with the evidence that telling people that they have a moral obligation to go vegan actually turns people into vegans. It's a common theme of this writer's tediously repetitive articles to disparage anyone who decides to go vegan because of kindness, compassion and empathy for non-human animals. It seems that unless your reasons for becoming vegan are based on the writings of Gary Francione then you're not a real vegan. And as other commenters have pointed out, it's probably best to watch the thing before publishing a review about it.

Comment on Simon Amstell Causing ‘Carnage’ For Animals With His New “Mockumentary” by Donna Fay James

Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:04:00 +0000

Oh dear... I cannot actually believe that, as a journalist, you completely missed the irony!... Carnists poke fun at vegans all the time and all Amstell has done is take that fun, and turn it around in a comedic fashion, that will make the film appeal to a wider audience... Did you seriously miss this? I mean... the whole point of the film?... Do yourself a favour and delete this review... actually watch the film... and write a review based on the how clever it was... if you still miss the point... then you're in the wrong job.