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James, come back to my blog. We all miss you.

2007-07-13T20:58:00.000+12:00

James, come back to my blog. We all miss you.



James, you don't need to equate disapproval of wha...

2007-07-13T20:41:00.000+12:00

James, you don't need to equate disapproval of what you said to supporting Maia or agreeing with Maia.

If you *choose* to continue offending people just for the sake of it, you will continue to get the same results. I don't see the value in that, personally.



Lucyna is right she can link or choose who she sup...

2007-07-13T17:05:00.000+12:00

Lucyna is right she can link or choose who she supports or not. In this case she is supporting Maia and I have no intention ever to apologise as I didn't have any intent whatsoever to offend :)"

Well said Heine! I however DID intend to offend the mad cow and I will do so every chance I get from now on big time!



I can't believe the PC boo hoo bullshit storm that...

2007-07-13T17:03:00.000+12:00

I can't believe the PC boo hoo bullshit storm that's been going on while I have been off-line.....what's wrong with you people?

(Sorry Clint but ...the buggers are mad!)

This is NZ....off colour ribald joke insults are as Kiwi as Watties sauce...If I wrung my hands over every invitation I've received to got fuck myself etc I'd be armless.

I suggested Maia needed to get HERSELF a dildo to develop another interest outside of being a sad pathetic wimp of a woman...which she obviously is.There was NO intent or implication (except to bedwetters)of rape in any way...had I added the smiley ;-) that I should of at the end of my comment would there be this silly shitstorm of indignation going on now....?

Lucyna....While it is of course your prerogative to run your blog as you see fit this banning of Clints blog is stupid, pathetic overkill....but why am I not suprised that YOU have acted this way? I see you chipped in on Maias blog claiming I talk about sex all the time all over the blogs ...bullshit! Most of my posts are on political/libertarian matters ....but I do spin some shit and joust with people like most bloggers do in colourful ribald terms occasionally.So what...? I have never threatened rape or violence to anyone as anyone familiar with my posts and politics well knows....its against my principles and nature.

You are just annoyed because I comment on the Catholic paedophile problem which was the subject of the post you deleted ...ok your right to do so but be honest.You yourself are obsessed with the sex lives of Gays so what does that make you...?



Oh gawd, psychotic Milt's back with his looney lef...

2007-07-13T10:00:00.000+12:00

Oh gawd, psychotic Milt's back with his looney leftist assertions.. what's this going to be? A re-run of your childlike fairy tales on Murdoch? Feminism is a sub set of Marxism you dumbarse.

BTW Lucyna, read an extremely good Alan keyes article yesterday that touches somewhat on this subject- The confusion on the right (to use a broad term)as to what is liberty and what is libertine.

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/keyes/070711

"License versus liberty"



Heine, we do not link to Maia on this blog. You d...

2007-07-13T08:49:00.000+12:00

Heine, we do not link to Maia on this blog. You don't need to equate disapproval of what James said to supporting Maia.



Redbaiter: you'll find 'sexual harrassment' is a f...

2007-07-13T06:27:00.000+12:00

Redbaiter: you'll find 'sexual harrassment' is a feminist term, not a Marxist one. Using 'Marxist' as a synonym for 'anything I don't like' just makes you look poorly educated, which I presume you're not.

If you want to make a case that Maia, as a feminist FFS, has no right to object to men expressing their hatred of women in general and Maia in particular in the most vulgar and sexually threatening terms, go ahead and try to make it. I can't wait...



Lucyna is right she can link or choose who she sup...

2007-07-13T03:59:00.000+12:00

Lucyna is right she can link or choose who she supports or not. In this case she is supporting Maia and I have no intention ever to apologise as I didn't have any intent whatsoever to offend :)



"Either way it's still unwanted sexual harassment,...

2007-07-12T22:19:00.000+12:00

"Either way it's still unwanted sexual harassment, and has no place in a civilised society."

Sanctimonious wafflers who use Marxist concepts like "sexual harassment" to attack freedom of expression have no business aligning themselves with a "civilized society".

In fact, the real joke is that someone would dare to use that phrase to defend a Marxist like Maia, whose ambition is the total destruction of NZ's traditional culture. That culture where civility and respect for women was a tangible reality. Whilst I regret that we have sunk to such lows, I have no sympathy for Maia. She is reaping what she has sown.

That said, its completely up to Lucyna who she chooses to link to.



"Since when did I have to conform to your ideas of...

2007-07-12T20:50:00.000+12:00

"Since when did I have to conform to your ideas of what can be said or talked about on my own blog? "

Simple answer really: you don't, that doesn't mean that I, and the others that feel the same as me, can't point out that you're the one who's out of line.

The rest of your reply was pretty nonsensical, so I can't really make a serious comment about it.

However, It almost sounds like you've gone from "Hey, it was only a joke!"

to, "Look, she's a lefty who talks like a lefty, and therefore deserved it"

to, "It's my blog, you're denying me my freedom of speech!"

and now, finally, "We're innocent, and Maia's guilty of something far worse"

I don't think it sounded like a rape threat, but I can see how it could be read as such. Either way it's still unwanted sexual harassment, and has no place in a civilised society.



Oh and Clint, stop talking, unless it's to apologi...

2007-07-12T20:45:00.001+12:00

Oh and Clint, stop talking, unless it's to apologise. Every word you make just digs a deeper hole.



It doesn't matter, Redbaiter. In my moral code, e...

2007-07-12T20:45:00.000+12:00

It doesn't matter, Redbaiter. In my moral code, even those who don't believe in it are protected by it.



1) Maia doesn't need the protection of social more...

2007-07-12T19:49:00.000+12:00

1) Maia doesn't need the protection of social mores she holds in contempt. I might join the objections if someone used this kind of language about Lucyna, but Maia? When has she ever had any regard for the social customs that Lucyna respects?.

Maia doesn't even object to the comments on the grounds of ill manners, but rather she adopts the Marxist approach, deceitfully converting a silly but harmless comment into something much more serious, ie a threat to rape, and rape is a 'power' thing you know, all about the male patriarchal society blah blah blah...

2) "Sexual harassment", "rape jokes", "offensive comments", "sexist outlook",

Hell, this is the kind of loaded and politically correct language that really "offends" me. Can we do something about the people who insist on using such nauseating phrases?



David - the "bitch" deserved what exactly? Remembe...

2007-07-12T19:33:00.000+12:00

David - the "bitch" deserved what exactly? Remembering that we implied nothing, what did she deserve?

Since when did I have to conform to your ideas of what can be said or talked about on my own blog? We most certainly don't deserve abuse remembering that if Maia said nothing and didn't cry wolf, there would have been absolutely nothing said on the matter fullstop.

However people like you think that by her trivilising something like rape to get attention is worthy of such attention, and that cheapens the issue of rape which is by no stretches of the imagination a funny subject.



Heine:I don't believe James was threatening to ra...

2007-07-12T19:03:00.000+12:00

Heine:

I don't believe James was threatening to rape Maia, nor do I believe he was making a racist comment. What he said did constitute sexual harassment however.

What's most disturbing is the way neither of you seem to be taking any level of personal responsibility for your own words. It doesn't matter what she said, and no I don't agree with her that "all employers are parasites". Bringing that up, bringing up her employment status, and all the other excuses that I've heard is tantamount to saying, "The bitch deserved it". A disturbing thing considering this country still has laws that amount to letting people off serious crimes for that very reason.

This shit isn't funny. If you want to make sexually explicit jokes, make them with your friends. Certainly do not direct them at faceless near-perfect strangers on the internet.

Both you and James deserve all the shit you're getting ATM on this issue.



I am being bombarded with a lot of Anon comments o...

2007-07-12T09:23:00.000+12:00

I am being bombarded with a lot of Anon comments on my blog today, so have had to turn Anon comments off for a couple days.

I guess the kind of people that associate themselves with Maia are the type that hold grudges eh! :)

PM. I practise equal opportunity harrassment. The blog and my record speaks for itself.



WicketCactus Kate writes just as much rubbish as M...

2007-07-12T08:05:00.000+12:00

Wicket
Cactus Kate writes just as much rubbish as Maia and has a PhD in crap cliche. And she is easily as offensive; one could delink her for her constatnt generalisations about men? Not a good comparison, but then stupidity is always in the eye of the beholder.....



For what it's worth, I agree with Zen that it's pr...

2007-07-12T06:38:00.000+12:00

For what it's worth, I agree with Zen that it's pretty contemptible for Idiot/Savant to talk self-righteous bullshit about Heine's blog while having comments turned off. At least H can reply to what I'm writing about him here.



"Tell me you saw a joke about rape on my blog by m...

2007-07-12T06:29:00.000+12:00

"Tell me you saw a joke about rape on my blog by me..."

We both know the exchange under discussion here. I don't doubt that neither James nor you is capable of understanding what that exchange looks like to people who don't share your sexist outlook, but that lack of understanding isn't my problem. Suffice to say, if you ever have a problem with a black blogger and James chips in with "Nothing a burning cross on his lawn wouldn't fix," it would be better just to tell him to fuck off.



You assume correctly.However, I've got your back, ...

2007-07-12T04:04:00.000+12:00

You assume correctly.

However, I've got your back, so to speak.



I assume Rick you haven't played the game that beN...

2007-07-12T03:52:00.000+12:00

I assume Rick you haven't played the game that beNZylpiperazine made up for me? :) My sense of humour, just like my post harrassing employers for being parasites, has not diminished!



Nobody says Team Clint aren't expressing perfectly...

2007-07-12T03:39:00.000+12:00

Nobody says Team Clint aren't expressing perfectly valid objections to our own little Germaine Greer.

How appropriately they express it- and what a healthy attitude toward sex is in any case- is something a smart group blog like this should have more to say about. Don't just pull the plug, let's have a full post. It's nothing different to the healthy views about sex I've been hearing in scores of workplaces in NZ and Australia.

I've a mind to post a picture of a big black something-or-other on Silent Running! But that's not my style.



David s. Sheesh. I'd love to hear what parts of Ma...

2007-07-12T01:33:00.000+12:00

David s. Sheesh. I'd love to hear what parts of Maia's ranting you agree with, but I will offer you an opportunity to do it on my blog rather than keep flogging this dead donkey for the good folk here.



I read this blog maybe once a fortnight. I can't s...

2007-07-12T00:49:00.000+12:00

I read this blog maybe once a fortnight. I can't say that I've ever agreed with any of the articles that I've read here. Except for this one, Well done, Lucyna.

Wicket; that was totally OT and has nothing to do with these events at all.



If I am Maia, I would be ashamed of being on the d...

2007-07-12T00:24:00.000+12:00

If I am Maia, I would be ashamed of being on the dole, plus trying to engage the public via blogging. If you're the lowest in the hierarchy of the society (unemployment), then one wouldn't want to attract public attention such as having a blog theme as capitalism-bad, because it makes you a target for abuse by those who see that they work hard and pay tax while leechers such as Maia could travel at will to & from Australia.

I think that she should disappear from the blogosphere, until she finds employment, because I believe that it is insulting to Brin & Page (capitalist Google owners), that they give leechers such as Maia a free-blog, where she uses it to criticize people like them (Brin & Page).

Maia should learn from political female bloggers such as Cactus Kate. Kate has got a regular income and not relying on state's handouts. She blogs for joy and to spread her political views out to her readers. This is good. In Maia's case , it is not a good match , being both unemployed and anti-capitalist (the very people, ie, capitalist producers that might give her a job).