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I can't stand the Daily Kos, and I think it's the height of irony those twits would dare to assume they know a damn thing about "Writing." Writers are born they are not created in Schools.

Many of us see the Elitism of the "Liberals," but unfortunately our blogs are small and for now they can ignore us, which they do.

The only "Big" blog I ever visit is "Crooks and Liars," and that's only because they hooked up one of my posts and in one day I got more visits than I did in my first month. But other than them I could care less about the "Big" blogs. Anyone can write that pseudo-intellectual, "I love you, you love me" crap.

The truth is the "Liberals" are not much different than the Wingnuts. Sure they say pretty things, but when it comes down to brass tacks it's nothing but words. I always thought Clinton was the most Republican president we've had since Reagan.

Anyway, I think what you're doing is cool, and the Internet may very well be the place the next Revolution is born.

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"At the least, it creates a sense of unity, which ...

2007-08-17T20:12:00.000-04:00

"At the least, it creates a sense of unity, which might be what all of us need to get past the usual rhetoric of us-against-them that is normally filled in our heads."

d.k., I co sign with that statement.

And anon. you are right, the people at MLW, for the most part did get on the ignoramous from Kos. So I will give that site credit for that. At the end of the day; they aren't bad folks over there. Although I still have issues with Mary Scott banning Francis.



I like your concept of a "reveloution from a keybo...

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I like your concept of a "reveloution from a keyboard". I think it's entirely possible, for any group or individual.

At the least, it creates a sense of unity, which might be what all of us need to get past the usual rhetoric of us-against-them that is normally filled in our heads.



FWIW, thereisnospoon got heavily criticized by fol...

2007-08-15T01:55:00.000-04:00

FWIW, thereisnospoon got heavily criticized by folks on MLW for that comment and the other racist BS he wrote. A number of people called him out on his (seemingly willful) ignorance.



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2007-08-14T10:47:00.000-04:00

It cannot be denied that educational access is skewed in favor of income, which skews against black Americans. Good educational access helps a lot of people become better writers - helped me, no doubt.

But a good formal education is not a prerequisite to excellent writing and may sometimes be a hindrance. Malcolm X "attended" prison and later lectured at Harvard, and his writings were incredibly powerful.

What good writing DOES require is a lot of practice and a lot of criticism from tough-minded readers. It's like boxing: no substitute exists for time with the gloves on at least hitting the big and small bags. Now what someone should do is to invent a medium where writers can write and get tough-minded criticism on their writings.

Oh wait. This is just one example that thereisnospoon may have heard of. There are many better ones.

thereisnospoon may have had a point in that white-collar workers can fake doing their work more easily on company time than can blue-collar professionals. I have blogged on company time - after asking my boss repeatedly for projects and him telling me we simply had some down time. If your job is to do maintenance on subway cars or to haul garbage, you are not on the net on company time. But I don't think that the netroots revolution is the result of, or dependent upon, people screwing off on company time.



Jimbo, so you "never said or implied that anyone n...

2007-08-14T10:13:00.000-04:00

Jimbo, so you "never said or implied that anyone needs my permission, or permission of people like me, for anything," huh? Forgot this comment, did you?

"If you want to cultivate AfroSpear; black blogs for black issues, go right ahead."

Once again (now I understand all too well why the same subjects/topics/objectives must be taught in American classrooms from 3 - 8 grades!) the door hasn't been shut in your face. You're here, aren't you? And I'm none the worse for having abandoned the comment section at DKos, Atrios, et. al.



Elizhill25, I'm sorry you took my comments so nega...

2007-08-13T18:38:00.000-04:00

Elizhill25, I'm sorry you took my comments so negatively. I apologize if I gave offense.

Though you are misinterpreting what I said blatantly: I never said or implied that anyone needs my permission, or permission of people like me, for anything.

And frankly, I just totally disagree with you. Your argument, as you say, that African Americans should refrain from "actively seeking inclusion until such time as we have adequately educated and socialized the putative liberal blogosphere, having awakened them to their blatant or, in an embarrassingly mighty few cases, vestigial racism" seems at odds with itself.

So you're going to educate casually racist white people... by shutting doors? How is that going to teach anyone anything? The only way you can educate people is by talking to them. That's it. It has nothing to do with creating a separate online identity for yourself. That's independent. As for the onus being on me and mine to accept your concerns if I want to be part of the discussion, that's expected and par for the course. But don't expect me to learn anything if you shut the door in my face.

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I stopped reading DailyKos, because although there...

2007-08-13T17:30:00.000-04:00

I stopped reading DailyKos, because although there were occasionally good posts, they would be followed by 300 inane comments, mostly consisting of people arguing with each other about nothing. There seemed to be no rules. People were also allowed to shill for their favorite candidate and smear other candidates.



Jimbo, neither myself or other African-Americans n...

2007-08-13T17:19:00.000-04:00

Jimbo, neither myself or other African-Americans need your permission to create, cultivate, and propogate the Afrosphere. Just as our forefathers didn't need anyone's permission or "g0-ahead" to create jazz, "the dozens," or rap. Such condescension is entirely irrelevant, unnecessary, and immaterial, thank you just the same. And I am certainly not proclaiming the wonders of "self-sufficiency" which is a fallacy advanced by reactionaries so they can keep one hand in the cookie jar while pushing hard-working taxpayers, working-class folks, and people of color away from the cookie jar. In case you didn't care to read what I actually wrote (beyond "I don't agree with Jimbo"), what I'm saying is the African-American community should refrain from actively seeking inclusion until such time as we have adequately educated and socialized the putative liberal blogosphere, having awakened them to their blatant or, in an embarrassingly mighty few cases, vestigial racism. Until then, others are welcome to join us, but the onus will be on them to accept our concerns, our perspectives, and our goals.

No one has been dismissed. Rather, to borrow an analogy from the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., I choose not to enter a house that's afire. The Democrats and their supporters have been complicit in the Republican shredding of the Constitution and systemic dismantling of civil rights, employment, and economic gains (and don't get me started with the housing market!). They don't have their act together, so I choose not to align myself with them at this time. In my mind, FISA, extraordinary rendition, Gitmo, and the warrantless wiretapping are merely the 21st Century version of the Mississippi sheriff storming into Emmitt Till's grandparent's home, kidnapping him, and brutally beating him to death. I'd have to be an ignorant fool to support that or anyone who does.

Finally, the influx of Mexicans into this country is not some coincidence or the "natural" result of NAFTA or the logical consequence of poor (i.e. African-American) people refusing to do such menial work. Who is naive enough to swallow such tripe? The corporate media promoted the idea that Latinas and African-Americans were in competition with each other for crumbs from the massa's table. Those who guzzle such swill need not worry about me wanting a sip. I refuse. But if they want a refreshing drink of the living waters of knowledge, then they are welcome to partake.



Field Negro, way to pull an O'Reilly (or a Harold ...

2007-08-13T17:11:00.000-04:00

Field Negro, way to pull an O'Reilly (or a Harold Ford). Take one comment from one blogger to put down an entire website and/or movement. Mighty big thinkin' of y'all. Of course there are more idiots like thereisnospoon, but if ye seek, ye will find. How about doing a search for people who aren't idiots. I bet you'll find them on Dailykos, too.

But what your post really made me think about was an earlier black movement, of MLK and the fight for civil rights. If he and other leaders had kept it an all black movement, would we have passed a Civil Rights Act in 1964? Or would Jim Crow have lingered, until who knows?



It's great to read socially conscious blogs. Altho...

2007-08-13T15:21:00.000-04:00

It's great to read socially conscious blogs. Although I am not part of the afrospear (because my blog isn't all that socially conscious except for a post here or there and I don't want to front) I am certainly supportive of the mission. White folks need to see bloggers of color out there speaking on issues that they would like to define for us.