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I attempted to leave a reasonably friendly comment...

2012-05-15T05:44:25.882-04:00

I attempted to leave a reasonably friendly comment, in response, on your blog, where you copied one of your comments on mine, but discovered that "non-team members," such as myself, are blocked from doing so.

Oh, well.



Thank you again, HumanApe. I said "I believe...

2012-05-15T05:29:21.829-04:00

Thank you again, HumanApe.

I said "I believe" because I think most of the people who read my blog are Christians, and there is considerable disagreement among Christians about some points of origins. I wanted to state my own views clearly.

I'm not sure what the "image of God" is, but it is mostly, or entirely, non-physical. Perhaps I should have said that.

It is true that some Christians have had a terrible view of the environment. I think that is wrong, according to the Bible. See http://sunandshield.blogspot.com/2006/04/environmental-stewardship-in-bible.html

It is also true that some non-Christians (BP, in the Gulf of Mexico, for example) have done some terrible things to the environment.

As I indicated in a previous response to one of your comments, neither Darwin nor Richard Dawkins have claimed that they could rule out God scientifically. I don't claim that I can prove His existence scientifically, either. I think that there is, and has to be, faith involved, either way. Are you sure that your presuppositions are not determining how you deal with the evidence, and what evidence you are willing to look at? I know that mine are.



"The only view that all Christians must rejec...

2012-05-14T12:12:03.591-04:00

"The only view that all Christians must reject is the naturalistic view, namely that we are here solely because of purposeless chance."

There's that word "chance" again. Natural selection is not chance.

"7) I believe that God somehow created humans specially. We are especially in His image, we have dominion over other living things, and Christ appeared on earth in human form."

This is a terrible idea and it also has the disadvantage of being ridiculous. It's terrible because Christians use "we have dominion over other living things" as an excuse to trash the environment and wipe out endangered species. It's ridiculous because any educated 12 year old would laugh at it.

"God somehow created humans specially."

Therefore we are separate from nature instead of part of nature. We are special according to your religious fantasy.

The truth is we are just one small insignificant twig on the vast evolutionary tree of life, and your wishful thinking will never change this basic scientific fact.

"We are especially in His image"

Your fairy looks like a human ape and I suppose you also think it has male sex organs.

Everything with you is "I believe". I don't see any "I have evidence for this idea". And this is why scientists laugh at gullible Christians, so willing to believe any fantasy if they were brainwashed to believe in it.

http://darwinkilledgod.blogspot.com/



"However, He may also be actually selecting a...

2012-05-14T11:59:15.391-04:00

"However, He may also be actually selecting and directing which sperms succeed, which spores germinate, etc."

You have got to be joking.



July 27, 2008: That seems possible, even likely, t...

2008-07-27T05:02:00.000-04:00

July 27, 2008: That seems possible, even likely, to me, meg.

Thanks.



On #8 -- I find it intriguing that the comments ab...

2008-07-26T23:27:00.000-04:00

On #8 -- I find it intriguing that the comments about humans being made in the image of God are sandwiched between verses that talk about our "dominion" over the earth and its inhabitants. Could it be that when God allowed us to be caretakers of his own creation, he was allowing us to step in and share the role with him, as an apprentice might step in and share a role with his master, enabling us through our work (our care for the planet) to be images of him (and his care not only for the planet but for us as well).



Thanks, geocreationist! I have a few readers, I gu...

2007-11-05T06:33:00.000-05:00

Thanks, geocreationist! I have a few readers, I guess.



Wow.I agree with every word of this post.I often g...

2007-11-04T20:55:00.000-05:00

Wow.

I agree with every word of this post.

I often go searching for blogs of Christians with similar views to mine. I consider the views in your post to be common sense, but it must not be common sense, because such views are either not common, or not commonly thought through.

I hope you are getting a lot of readers, to help dilute the disservice of our sincerely misled YEC and ID Christian brethren.

God bless you. I will be reading more of your blog.



Thank you, Sara K!

2007-09-28T04:54:00.000-04:00

Thank you, Sara K!



I love this post! You are a skilled and wise man....

2007-09-27T22:10:00.000-04:00

I love this post! You are a skilled and wise man. All credit to God for His faithful servant.



Thanks, Gyrovague. I don't want anybody in my camp...

2007-03-22T23:12:00.000-04:00

Thanks, Gyrovague. I don't want anybody in my camp, but in the camp of the truth, or at least the camp of those who honestly seek for it, in both the Bible and nature.



I throw my hat into the camp of Martin on this one...

2007-03-22T18:13:00.000-04:00

I throw my hat into the camp of Martin on this one.

Sound science and sound religion CAN get along if they come in minus the agenda. Unfortunately for the church we are just as guilty of misguided agendas.

If schools would quit indoctrinating, and start teaching classes like logic and philosophy I think in 20 years we could have some well rounded citizens.

A liberal thought for you...the kids getting to decide for themselves!!



Thanks. I think your middle paragraph pretty well ...

2007-03-19T15:59:00.000-04:00

Thanks. I think your middle paragraph pretty well sums it up.



Now I know where you're coming from. I'll admit I...

2007-03-17T13:42:00.000-04:00

Now I know where you're coming from. I'll admit I hadn't really read your archives before today, and only 3 of the archived pieces today.

You seem part of a growing camp of Christians who disowns intelligent design (the movement) while affirming intelligent design (the principle), probably for the obvious reason that your idea of design and their idea of design (plus agenda) don't necessarily match.

Myself, I once made the mistake of asking a dyed-in-the-wool atheist whether he thought that "design v. non-design" was an answerable question on purely evidential grounds, and got soundly criticized for my political activism, much to my surprise.

Take care & God bless
Anne/WF