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Excellent website. Good work. Very useful. I will ...

2007-09-09T14:16:00.000-04:00

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Thanks for interesting article.

2007-08-18T01:57:00.000-04:00

Thanks for interesting article.



It's bad enough that Edwards allowed an underling ...

2007-02-05T23:02:00.000-05:00

It's bad enough that Edwards allowed an underling to bring this lunatic Marcotte on board, but even worse that now he knows what she's all about he allows her to stay.

IMO if Edwards wants to be president of the U.S. he needs to demonstrate that he has the leadership skills and integrity to bring quality people onto his team and jettison loose cannons like Marcotte. Therefore, if he doesn't boot Marcotte out of the door immediately, IMO his bid for the Democratic nomination is DOA.



I left a blog on Edards' site about the flippant r...

2007-02-04T23:17:00.000-05:00

I left a blog on Edards' site about the flippant reponses that Marcotte has written that have no basis in fact- including the comment about NC consitituents. I got an email back saying it was voted off. I am wondering if there is anywhere to post or emial that will get this woman STOPPED.



Elizabeth Edwards posts on democraticunderground.c...

2007-02-03T21:16:00.000-05:00

Elizabeth Edwards posts on democraticunderground.com. Which is so incredible that it is akin to Laura Bush writting a Sew Simple column for John Birch newletter. The DU people are nuts nuts nuts, there eis no theory so crazy trhey wont endorse it.

It would be nice if the democrats could nominate someone where you didnt have to worry about what dangerous kooks have entre to. Seems unlikely.



M. Simon said... The proper way to handle that is ...

2007-02-03T15:54:00.000-05:00

M. Simon said...
The proper way to handle that is to apologize when you are wrong or have been intemperate.

Covering up is a bigger crime and just draws more attention.

Any way that is how I handle it.


Heck, that's where I am fuming at the 88!

I don't expect professionalism, maturity, or any adult traits from the more radical tenured teenagers of that group, but I DO expect the more "sane" members of (or those who capitalize on the image of sanity) to NOT have pulled that stunt with the second letter.

It's one thing to sniff at me because I actually read what they wrote in the original letter and put it in context. It's quite another thing to expect me to not remember what they wrote because, through the use of those three dots, what I erroneously remembered they wrote was removed from space and time (I think Dr. Who did that once).

But sniffing at me for reading what they wrote and remembering it, and to keep *me* honest, repeating what they *now* want me to remember by using ellipses, and then hyperlinking to the original text to remind me of the the verbiage that was I was supposed to forget, but now I definitely remember what they wrote because it's there in front of me?

Is that just a little over the top, or are they having a Wizard of Oz moment. Pay no attention to the HTML at the other end of the blue underline!

No wonder Marcotte and the 88 understand each other. They have the same hangup. Neither wants me to remember that they're losers!



I think Edwards bad judgment shows a few things. ...

2007-02-03T15:28:00.000-05:00

I think Edwards bad judgment shows a few things. (Speaking as a Democrat, or as some of my ex friends have called me a DINO).

The Blue dogs "won" Congress for the Democrats this year (or alternatively, the establishment Congressional Republicans won Congress for the Democrats). Yet the DNCs crop of presidentially beautiful are not from this stock of winners, nor are they acting like it. Rather they are bringing people who may get the DNC nomination but don't have that much of a chance of winning in November if the Republicans but forward a solid leader. Edward's behavior is typical of this. A much as the ideologues in the DNC want to believe, you don't win from a fashion plate, and you don't win by being a whakadooodle. They'd do better by just being honest and cleaving to perennial Democrat Lyndon Larouche.

Bringing in Marcotte shows how how little Edwards ranks among the alpha Left Bloggers. Kos? Josh Marshall? I'd headhunt them if I wanted to win, I'd lean towards Marshal myself since Kos can be more of a brat on a good day, but no one can deny his brand name recognition. What's the best blogger that Edwards can reel in? Someone who makes the Democratic Underground look mature, and as I said earlier, makes Kos look like the Instawife.

The mainstream left, despite what some here may think, have ahem... "moved on" from the Lax case (as far as lynching the accused go) seeing it as a fringe cause celebrate, and a lost cause for race and gender overall. When Estridge walks off the case, it's over. Even Bona-fide Liberals who I still can talk to don't believe the honesty of the 88 when they are pressed to critically assess them. No one trusts Nifong, and noone who wants to be invited to polite parties off campus wants to be associated with the UMBUTU crowd. Yet Edwards picks a true member of the Madame DeFarge Brigade. He's not only out of touch with the maintream who would need his support to win the presdiency. He's out of touch with the democratic broader membership (as opposed to "the base.")

Pretty boy Edwards is almost looking to loose... perhaps so he can well... be a professional looser and thus be a victim.



Just as generals are always fighting the last war,...

2007-02-03T12:20:00.000-05:00


Just as generals are always fighting the last war, so economists are always fighting the last recession.


You can tell how ignorant someone is by the certainty with which they mouth their generalizations.



It is interesting that no one has come out swingin...

2007-02-03T12:17:00.001-05:00

It is interesting that no one has come out swinging on Pandagon on this matter.

I wonder what the response has been in the blogosphere?



"I almost un-appointed him when he decided to run,...

2007-02-03T12:17:00.000-05:00

"I almost un-appointed him when he decided to run," Easley told law school students.

This is quintessential Democrat'ic' after-the-fact talking points.

John Kerry could not have said it better with his "I voted for the war before I voted against it."



M. Simon, We had far less income inequality durin...

2007-02-03T12:15:00.000-05:00

M. Simon,

We had far less income inequality during the 1950s, yet our economic growth as a society was just fine. And despite the insistent right-wing claims that "Old Europe" is on the verge of collapse, their economic growth during the past year has actually exceeded ours. Obviously a completely socialist economy would not work, but neither would a completely laissez-faire economy. There's a reason every Western society abandoned that notion. The real question isn't whether we will have socialism or laissez-faire; both have been decisively rejected. The real question is what proportions of private and state action we will have in our mixed economy. And there is room for far more security and prosperity for the average worker without compromising our economy in any way.

I am not inclined to take the predictions of economists very seriously. They are far too unreliable and tinged with ideological bias. Just as generals are always fighting the last war, so economists are always fighting the last recession. We need FDR-style pragmatism, not rigid ideological rules.

-Firebug



Edwards does not disapprove of Marcotte's views - ...

2007-02-03T09:21:00.000-05:00

Edwards does not disapprove of Marcotte's views - he hired her and has kept her on board. She is the face of his campaign on the internet. The scary ugly hideous hateful face of his campaign.

The Breck boy is not the deepest river one will ever try to cross. He is as dim as Marcotte is hateful. A match made in heaven.



M.Simon = clueless dolt

2007-02-03T08:44:00.000-05:00

M.Simon = clueless dolt



Mmm. Interesting. So Ms. Marcotte thinks the way...

2007-02-03T08:42:00.000-05:00

Mmm. Interesting. So Ms. Marcotte thinks the way to solve the world's problems is for white people to stop breeding? I wonder what she thinks of the Edwards' decision to "breed" two more white people after their son died in a car accident, despite the fact that Elizabeth Edwards was well past her prime "breeding" years? And I wonder what Elizabeth Edwards thinks about Ms. Marcotte's opinions on white "breeding"?



This expose is great. I wondered why Edwards had n...

2007-02-03T04:43:00.000-05:00

This expose is great. I wondered why Edwards had not been pressed into commenting about the case?



M. Simon, I heard something today I thought releva...

2007-02-03T04:39:00.000-05:00

M. Simon, I heard something today I thought relevant and on point.

Most everyone says racist things or has bigoted thoughts. The acid test is whether people actually act on those comments/thoughts.

Would someone who say something derogatory or racist to someones face?

The Gang of 88 act, through the listening statement, clarification, classes,etc. on clearly act on their bigoted beliefs. No question they are bigots...in this light.



There are no words for this crass foul mouthed per...

2007-02-03T04:24:00.000-05:00

There are no words for this crass foul mouthed person.



Of course Jimmy Carter takes money from the Saudis...

2007-02-03T03:59:00.000-05:00

Of course Jimmy Carter takes money from the Saudis so I guess it kind of balances out.

More good news. A group of top ranking Democrats met with Hamas in Europe.

Hamas Will Not Harm Democrats. Hamas does know how embarassing that can be and promised not to rat out the Democrats.

Only one problem with that though. The Palestinians are killing each other faster than the Israelis are killing them.

So I'd say things are looking up for the Democrats.



firebug, Be nice to the Jews. They give the Democ...

2007-02-03T03:52:00.000-05:00

firebug,

Be nice to the Jews. They give the Democrats 80% support and lots of money.

If you are not happy with them the Rs would be glad to have them.



Firebug, You have two choices: a growing economy,...

2007-02-03T03:49:00.000-05:00

Firebug,

You have two choices: a growing economy, lots of jobs, great income disparity.

A stagnant economy, jobs hard to come by, greater income equality.

You know it is like leftys never had an economics class in their life.

"Concentration of wealth is a natural result of concentration of ability, and recurs in history. The rate of concentration varies (other factors being equal) with the economic freedom permitted by morals and the law... democracy, allowing the most liberty, accelerates it. -- Will and Ariel Durant

Free To Choose - the video



I still believe John Edwards is a good man. He mad...

2007-02-03T02:07:00.000-05:00

I still believe John Edwards is a good man. He made a bad judgment in delegating responsibility to whomever made an HORRENDOUS judgment in selecting Marcotte. Marcotte, if you check out her MySpace, is a lightweight. She's fulsomely crass, and profane...but it comes off like a pose. She's not going to take it lying down! (Like she did before, when she was raped.)

She's a minor-leaguer...heck, a semi-pro softballer. This is her first time facing the glare of the big boys, and there is no way she can survive it.

I actually don't dislike her anymore. Once the curtain is swept aside, and you see what's there...



Addendum: If John Edwards wants to hire a liberal ...

2007-02-03T02:02:00.000-05:00

Addendum: If John Edwards wants to hire a liberal feminist weblogger who is far more balanced and in tune with his campaign themes, Lindsay Beyerstein (majikthise.typepad.com) would probably be a good choice.

-Firebug



For the most part, I've been a big fan of John Edw...

2007-02-03T01:31:00.000-05:00

For the most part, I've been a big fan of John Edwards. He is the only major Democratic contender who says what needs to be said about the severe and growing problem of income inequality in America. An Edwards Presidency might be our nation's best chance of finally establishing a civilized health care system.

But he's made some substantial blunders in the past week. First, there was the craven comments at the Herzliya conference, where Edwards seemed ready to sign off on another disastrous war - this one against Iran - in order to get more campaign contributions from right-wing Zionists. Then, there was the inexplicable decision to hire Amanda Marcotte (Amanda Marcotte?!) as his official blogger.

I'm not naive, and I understand that no one can be elected in America without kissing up to the Israel Lobby. But why on Earth would Edwards hire Amanda Marcotte - a crude, humorless radical feminist in the Andrea Dworkin/Catharine MacKinnon mold? This has the markings of a decision made by a low-level staffer. It is certainly a substantial PR flop; Marcotte's extremist views on gender relations and religion - not to mention the crudity with which these views are expressed - would shock the public if they became known. Marcotte should be cut loose quickly and quietly before she becomes a public liability.

-Firebug



Ahh poor Amynda is getting herself in trouble. Mar...

2007-02-03T01:21:00.000-05:00

Ahh poor Amynda is getting herself in trouble. Marcotte is a well known far left wingnut to most of us who've been watching her for years in the gender war as it were. Her erasing comments does not surprise me in the least.



Hey, what's the big deal? Marcotte has a clear po...

2007-02-03T00:13:00.000-05:00

Hey, what's the big deal?

Marcotte has a clear position on national security:

Scott Lemieux has a great post on the conservatives running around raising an alarm about the imaginary threat of impending worldwide domination by Muslim terrorist sorts (who are indistinguishable from everyday Muslims in the wingnut worldview).

Is well-positioned to be a uniter, not a divider:

Red Staters reveal themselves to be human, if a tad stupid at times

Will never be accused of neglecting religious constituencies:

An empty uterus (inside a white woman) makes Baby Jebus Cry

Has a track record of thinking "outside the box":

DT, my general rule of thumb is anyone obsessed with population who hasn’t noticed certain ecological issues has racist and/or sexist motivations. I can’t possibly imagine how you could track population growth without noticing the major overriding issues (that we’re making more people total than the planet can reasonably sustain being the biggie) unless distracted by sick prejudices.

And has a developed a solution that simultaneously eliminates overpopulation and racial tension:

I firmly and thoroughly believe that if white people quit breeding altogether, the world would be a better place. Why not? It seems to solve a couple major problems in one generation.

Go Team Edwards! Because if white people quit breeding altogether, the world will be a better place.