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Comment on What We (and the M’s) Mean When We Talk About Spin Rates by MKT

Sun, 10 Dec 2017 11:37:25 +0000

I was expecting Marc to title this article "What We Talk About When We Talk About Spin Rates".



Comment on Uh-oh by mrakbaseball

Sat, 09 Dec 2017 23:23:44 +0000

You know you're getting a older when a player you watched as a kid (Flash Tom Gordon) has a kid in the big leagues pushing 30.



Comment on Uh-oh by leftfield limey

Sat, 09 Dec 2017 20:31:01 +0000

The off season is usually my favourite part of the season because (i) the Mariners are not out of the running for the pennant; (ii) we can dream on JD pulling a great trade and (iii) dream on at least one of the farm's prospects developing into something above average. This yeaar (i) seems already much more likely than usual; (ii) seems ulikely as JD does not have much left to trade and (iii) is defintiely missing as there simply are no that many prospects left on the farm. The trades for bonus pool looked very much like going all in for Ohtani. When you lose an all in hand the game is usually over.



Comment on Uh-oh by line drive

Sat, 09 Dec 2017 06:27:04 +0000

Biggest problem last year...starting pitching. Where are we on addressing that concern? I'm sure Dipoto will unveil plan B since plan A Ohtani blew up in our faces.



Comment on Uh-oh by don52656

Sat, 09 Dec 2017 04:48:47 +0000

After taking several hours to absorb the latest gut punch.... 1. I can totally see why Ohtani would choose the Angels over the Mariners. They certainly have a better track record for success, Trout will be in his peak years. Really, other than us fans wanting him to choose Seattle, why would he? Sure, it's a great place to live and I would never choose to live in SoCal, but as an organization, I wouldn't think the Mariners would be very attractive. Felix has been here for 10 years and never gotten to a playoff; Ichiro made it only in his first season. I was pretty sure he'd pick an AL team and really hoped it would be the Mariners, but he made a completely understandable choice. 2. I wonder how many of the three trades in the past few days were completely made with getting Ohtani in mind. Gordon in CF for three prospects? Maybe. Two trades for international bonus money, I tend to doubt. My problem with what's happened is now I wonder if Jerry put all the eggs in the Ohtani basket. If he did, that alone would be enough to disqualify him from continuing as GM, to my way of thinking. I'll assume that he has a plan B, I sure would like to hear him say it though. 3. Barring considerable misfortune, Houston and LA are the gorillas in the west and will be for several years. Oakland has gotten younger and more talented. Texas lost Darvish but picked up some pretty high-profile young talent in return. The Mariners are combating that with aging overpriced stars and not one single major league ready player in the system. In fact, it's hard to be confident that the M's have anyone in the minors above rookie league ball who projects to be a MLB regular.



Comment on Uh-oh by williebfan

Sat, 09 Dec 2017 02:05:55 +0000

Perhaps he didn't want to carry the team on his back with his arm.



Comment on Uh-oh by Westside guy

Sat, 09 Dec 2017 01:15:17 +0000

@marc w Yeah, I get that it really wasn't about money - wouldn't he have made quite a bit more if he'd stayed in Japan? But to my non-expert eye... when I think about the significant problems the Mariners face, and then look at the Angels - I see most of the same problems, writ large.



Comment on Uh-oh by stevemotivateir

Sat, 09 Dec 2017 00:47:54 +0000

^No. I believe the deadline is June 15th, then everything gets reset. And IBP money is believed to be worth 3-4 times more, because of the limitations and restrictions.



Comment on Uh-oh by mksh21

Sat, 09 Dec 2017 00:24:14 +0000

Can you stash this money for next year? I can't even keep on how this works. Hell see if they are allowed to advance pay some of Cano's deal with it.



Comment on Uh-oh by stevemotivateir

Sat, 09 Dec 2017 00:17:45 +0000

Finding legitimate, leftover international talent with that money will be a bigger challenge than the pursuit of Ohtani. Well, almost.