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Last Build Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 02:35:09 +0000

 



Comment on The Siren’s Song of Competitive Balance by nwade

Tue, 13 Feb 2018 02:35:09 +0000

If players are recognized as hitting their stride earlier (thanks to PD and such), then wouldn’t the MLBPA want to push for fewer arb years and a faster path to Free Agency? Seems like getting guys out on the market when they have more of their career left would encourage more FA contracts to be happening in aggregate. It does continue to put a premium on drafting and intl players but I don’t think anything will stop that from being the case... And a shorter path to FA certainly reduces the likelihood of a player sticking with 1 team for their entire career - but that feels like a quaint memory at this point; not something to plan the future of baseball around, nor a “tradition” to try to preserve in the game at the cost of other improvements.



Comment on The Siren’s Song of Competitive Balance by bookbook

Tue, 13 Feb 2018 01:47:00 +0000

Great article. The owners may be miscalculating at this point because a year without baseball will hurt them more than the players. The players have leverage, if they’re willing to use it. A society without a middle class is inherently unstable—which is hopefully just about baseball.



Comment on On Edgar’s Near Miss by MKT

Sun, 04 Feb 2018 07:45:20 +0000

Yup, similarly I think Frank Thomas indirectly helps Edgar by establishing precedent.



Comment on On Edgar’s Near Miss by msfanmike

Sun, 04 Feb 2018 02:07:49 +0000

Like him or not, Ortiz had a great career and was huge in the playoffs. His career and the inevitable desire by the voters to put him in the Hall is probably the best thing that could have happened for Edgar. Ortiz’ career is probably acting as a mini-tsunami that will push Edgar into the HOF, so in that way I appreciate David Ortiz. His being named within the Mitchell Report adds complications, but I believe they will largely be ignored (they mostly have been) and Ortiz will be in the HOF in his first or second run on the ballot.



Comment on On Edgar’s Near Miss by Westside guy

Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:08:40 +0000

But Dennisss, Ortiz is Boston Strong.



Comment on On Edgar’s Near Miss by Dennisss

Tue, 30 Jan 2018 04:43:19 +0000

I am not really angry about how Edgar has been overlooked, as long as he is not overlooked next year. I will, however, have to roll my eyes when Ortiz sails in easily.



Comment on On Edgar’s Near Miss by LongDistance

Mon, 29 Jan 2018 06:53:15 +0000

Edgar never denied he'd tried them. We shouldn't generalize or try to make excuses, but I do think there was a time that PEDs were widespread. And, like a spitball, had an acknowledged but non-acknowledged place in the game. I clearly remember Edgar talking about personal use, way back when it was still possible to do so without creating screaming headlines and outrage. And he simply said he tried them, but stopped because they made him feel bloated and sick ... something along those lines. And, unless I'm getting this confused with someone else, I believe he added that while it seemed he got a bit more pop for awhile, it wasn't worth feeling bad. I know it sounds like making excuses for the home town favourite, but I honestly don't think his career or stats reveal the sort of blip that normally happens. What I do know, is he was continually tweaking everything ... swing, timing, stance ... adjusting to his physique, age, and pitchers, and his achievements are way more based on that, than anything else.



Comment on On Edgar’s Near Miss by mrakbaseball

Mon, 29 Jan 2018 05:14:24 +0000

"Edgar’s not a PED guy" I love Edgar, he and Junior are my favorite Mariners of all time, but we can't say anyone is not a PED guy with 100% certainty. Like it or not, unfortunately, his career contains many of the red flags associated with the "steroid era", increased muscle mass, compare Edgar circa 1997-98 with Edgar during his first batting title year of 1992. Established career high in home runs at 37 playing in a pitcher's park. The weird hamstring injury during the 2002 season. I love the guy but nobody knows for sure who was "clean".



Comment on On Edgar’s Near Miss by LongDistance

Sun, 28 Jan 2018 13:10:08 +0000

dogkahuna: yes, the first 50 ballots are bought and owned by Scott Boras.



Comment on On Edgar’s Near Miss by dogkahuna

Sat, 27 Jan 2018 01:53:53 +0000

So what's the deal with private ballots and can these people be outed?