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Comment on Don’t Be Afraid To Read Heresy by Nakedpastor David Hayward

Thu, 26 Apr 2018 21:54:07 +0000

Agreed Doug 100%

Comment on Don’t Be Afraid To Read Heresy by Douglas

Thu, 26 Apr 2018 21:52:38 +0000

Your musing reminds me of this New Testament words ‘ And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.’ I think that this is saying ‘Don’t be conformed by orthodoxy, but be transformed by new ideas from multiple sources’ We must be individuals and come to our own conclusions on the path of life. Learning to conform stifles the person we are. And that’s not a good thing.

Comment on The Business of Guilt and Forgiveness by Ellen Williams

Thu, 26 Apr 2018 18:36:21 +0000

That's a powerful one!

Comment on Advisable to Leave Men in Charge by Ellen Williams

Thu, 26 Apr 2018 18:34:59 +0000

Jack, we all have a history. As a woman raised in a very conservative family, I experienced abuses just for being born female. That's not unusual. Those abuses are what's getting attention right now. You seem a little threatened by that. Truth is, we all have a story. Yours is just as valid as mine and we don't have to be adversaries just because we're seeing life from different places. Whatever hurt you is valid reason for angst, just as the things that hurt me are valid reason for angst. I think it is a real issue that sometimes, in trying to make up for inequalities and injustices, we easily commit others. That should be guarded against.

Comment on Here’s Jesus Begging by Ellen Williams

Thu, 26 Apr 2018 18:19:28 +0000

True, Jack! I get the point of the cartoon,too. The people that have been claiming to be the church have sold themselves out. But really, especially in the faith heritage I grew up in, the claim was that we were the elect, the only right ones and we fashioned a sign to put in front of our building to prove it. It's truly disturbing how many people from that heritage, to this day, actually argue that the sign, or the self appointed name is proof that they are the only ones God will save. Their faith is in the externals and in themselves. Really, only Christ has the authority to say who belongs to him. It's sad to see the churches go so far away from the unity of love in the bond of peace, but the sheep of Christ's pasture still hear his voice, even if they look rather unconventional.

Comment on Don’t Be Afraid To Read Heresy by Jack Russell

Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:58:05 +0000

Completely agree, you will be better informed for it and stronger, whether you stick with the beliefs you hold or change them. One of the most important lessons I have learned in expanding my mind in this way is that whatever I know, it is small compared to what can be known. This has opened me up to the possibility for awe, wonder and there not being one person on the planet that I can't learn from. Even if it is just to learn how clever I am in comparison to them (image)

Comment on The Distraction of Sexual Misconduct by Jack Russell

Wed, 25 Apr 2018 17:39:07 +0000

Caryn, if an allegation about sexual misconduct is later found out to be false, it's perfectly fine to have called it petty. To do such which results in a man having in one case years of legal procedure and suffer panic attacks is deplorable. For a woman to be abusive of power in such a way and cause deep and lasting damage because she can is fully justified as being called petty. On the other hand what you say is equally abhorrent if a woman has been sexually assaulted and an institution regards her reporting it as petty. Both contribute to real instances being ignored. In the case of the former, that was a point I previously made. You have focused on disagreement but I trust we are in agreement on both causing this problem. There absolutely is presumption of guilt and innocence. You would have had to like on the moon to have not seen the trial by media approach commonplace. Consider what Cliff Richard is facing currently for example. But that's not the narrative is it? So yes, the cost of this is the need for leaders and everyone else to prepare for the possibility of allegations. And yes external investigation is necessary. So we disagree in part and agree in part. Where we disagree, it doesn't make you right and me wrong automatically. If you choose to perceive that as disagreeing then of course you have the freedom to do so. As ever, I respect your freedom to experience the consequences of your choices.

Comment on The Distraction of Sexual Misconduct by Caryn LeMur

Wed, 25 Apr 2018 15:57:56 +0000

Well then, Jack. We are disagreed. In the American system of business, any serious allegation should result in suspension with pay during the independent investigation. In the American legal system, you are quickly told the reason for the suspension. If you are not, then strong politics are in play... I am sorry that someone committed suicide. And, I admit I do not know the UK legal system that helped cause that dilemma. In my strongest opinion, there is no such thing as a petty allegation of sexual misconduct. That is one major problem - such allegations have been historically mislabeled as petty, and ignored in the US. If a leader is accused of sexual misconduct, it is a serious allegation. Allegations come with the territory of being a leader. Shit happens. Real allegations happen. False allegations happen. As a leader, you know the company's policy: (and it should be this:) any allegation that is considered 'serious' shall result in suspension with pay, until the independent investigation is closed. There is no presumption of guilt during a suspension with pay, here in the US. Allegations and suspensions happen. But again, I do not know your UK legal system. Perhaps you have a presumption of guilt during suspension with pay. Here are my main points: 1. The labeling of any sexual misconduct allegation as petty, results in real allegations being ignored, mishandled, or avoided. All sexual misconduct allegations should be categorized as 'serious' by any business, to include the churches. 2. Any use of an internal investigation is suspect, thus an independent investigation must be employed. 3. Suspension with pay during the independent investigation is the cost of being a leader, and a cost of business. Our leaders need to realize, and mentally prepare, for such allegations. 4. There is no presumption of guilt, period. Let the evidence from the independent investigation speak for itself. And it shall speak, whether it speaks via (in the US legal system) by 'preponderance' or 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. So, I believe we are disagreed.

Comment on Women Were Preachers Too! by Jack Russell

Wed, 25 Apr 2018 12:21:47 +0000

Yup, they were - priestesses in pagan religions. Precillia along with Acquilla taught Appolus. The apostle Paul called women his "co-workers" which could imply a teaching role and women were first to witness the resurrection of Jesus. What was not permitted was for women to assume to have a teaching or authoritative role. And not dissimilarity men were not to presume such. Jesus had one or two things to say about "the hypocrites" who were motivated by being greeted in the marketplace and being seated in high places.