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The media pundit's pundit. Written by NYC insider Jeff Jarvis, BuzzMachine covers news, media, journalism, and politics.

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By: Cooler Heads

Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:06:08 +0000

Jeff, even now, in this state of openness, some of us can't yet have opinions without threatening our work. But...I applaud what you and the newspapers are doing. I just don't want to see you become the cheerleader for everything and everyone you consult for. It undermines your credibility. Likewise, I'm not sure everything should be cheered for. But overall, I am a strong supporter of the new populism that grows from blogs, and all of it.

By: Dave Mastio

Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:15:38 +0000

So Jarvis is hiding the real innovation from us because the real innovators aren't paying him? There are slightly more than five bajillion and three people writing about new media, if Jarvis is such a problem for you, why not go visit some of them? Here's a list: And if you don't like my list, there are a half-dozen others out there. That's the beauty of the blogosphere, there are always credible voices out there. You just have to go find them.

By: Jeff Jarvis

Tue, 24 Jul 2007 01:34:07 +0000

"Cooler," I am not lauding everything they are doing. I am lauding a list of things related to blogs. I wish I knew who you were and what your perspective is. Why not use your real name? This is hardly a state secret, this discussion. Let's have the discussion openly, transparently, like adults, eh?

By: links for 2007-07-24 « David Black

Tue, 24 Jul 2007 01:31:54 +0000

[...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » One paper and blogs Yesterday, the Ledger launched NJVoices, a local version of the Comment is Free and HuffingtonPost. It’s the same idea: Invite in some opinion leaders — including the paper’s own columnists — and give them a platform to have their say (tags: internet newspapers newspapersites journalism blogging hyperlocal community) [...]

By: Cooler Heads

Tue, 24 Jul 2007 00:28:38 +0000

Well, here's the thing. Are there other papers doing what the Star-ledger is doing? probably. Does Jarvis highlight them? maybe, maybe not. It's a matter of who Jarvis is consulting for. Also, I always look carefully when someone would basically label all the interactive stuff a paper does as terrific. Clearly there must be some differentiation. Does it all deserve to be lauded?

By: Rob

Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:18:08 +0000

Jeff, You need to call on the Austin American Statesman. They have just about the lamest newspaper blog site on the planet: Most of the stories are just trite crap that didn't make the print version - "Fire closes popular pizza restaurant" - and often there are days between new posts. No pictures in the blogs (except, of course, for lots and lots of ads) and no video. There are "reader blogs", but judging by the lack of comments, no one reads them (although a couple look like they're OK). I think "local blogging" is going to turn out to be hard. Lileks makes it look easy, but it's not; it takes a real writer. The talent pool of good writers just may not be deep enough to cover all communities within a city with one each.

By: Dave Mastio

Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:20:02 +0000

The first thing Cooler and a lot of other folks need to understand is that "great" isn't the standard folks should be using in engaging the local side of social media. The first priority for local folks should be to try new things and see what works, then when something looks like it has traction work on making it better. This is part of what paralyzes newspapers and is highlighted in that new NAA report: Everyone is so worried about getting new launches perfect, that new launches are rare. Jeff's friends deserve credit for getting past that. A lot of what the Star-Ledger is doing is going to be SOP in a few years -- having a local writer cover local social media personalities? That should be as obvious as covering any other influential part of town. Cooler is just wrong about TV Jersey. On a technical level, the idea is a solid hit, but what makes TV Jersey great is the marketing angle. New Jersey has no TV station of its own, so the local paper uses new media to give it a start at one. A century ago, newspaper men were marketers too and those editor/entreprenuers are the ones who built the economic infrastructure of our industry. We need folks like that back. Course, I am trying to make a buck working with newspapers too, so cooler can feel free to ignore me as well.

By: Jeff Jarvis

Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:32:49 +0000

Cooler, Your judgment but clearly, I disagree. A local Comment is Free is new and cool, I think. And involving bloggers in what the paper does is also important, I say. But my caveat is clear: Sprinkle all the salt you want.

By: Cooler Heads

Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:58:50 +0000

The pharmalot blog is great. But the rest? You wouldn't be highlighting these if you weren't a consultant to and personal friends of people at the Star-Ledger.