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By: Gary

Fri, 04 May 2007 00:20:48 +0000

This is simply not true. TheFind has *always* marked the sponsored results with a "sponsored" banner. Check out this post on ComparisonEngines.com dated Feb. 10, 2007. http://www.comparisonengines.com/2007/02/10/thefind-monetizes-shopping-search-through-shoppingcom/ From the beginning the sponsored result have been marked. The misunderstanding is that not every search has sponsored results. In those cases, the first two results are unpaid and won't be marked.



By: Scott

Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:27:34 +0000

So as long as the sponsorship doesn't affect the ranking it doesn't need to be disclosed. Makes sense to me.



By: Yan

Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:37:54 +0000

I don't see any problem with hidden sponsored listings as long as they don't affect the order. I believe TheFind are still listing many unmarked affiliated/sponsored listings since part of their feeds come from affiliate networks, according to the article linked in the first comment. Click on any product by Amazon in the search results and you will notice "fatlenscom-20" at the end of the URL.



By: Scott

Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:19:29 +0000

So what if you search a collection of products picked by the users? Considering there is no special preference given to sponsored listings and the relevance isn't hindered I think this is okay. Seems the problem with thefind was that the sponsored listings appeared first regardless of relevance. So if there is no "Sponsored" label on thefind, but sponsored products appear within the results and not first, would this be a different story?



By: Yan

Fri, 06 Apr 2007 20:12:56 +0000

I don't see problem in hiding sponsorship when displaying a collection of products picked by users. There is no conflict of interest here since it is the user who picks the product. I do see a problem with doing so in search results. Search engines are perceived to list the results in the order of relevancy. If this is not the case, they will fail as a successful product long term.



By: Scott

Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:48:27 +0000

I'm trying to imagine if thefind were a social shopping site. What if they include affiliate datafeed products which are sponsored and a member posts one of those products? Should this product remain "Sponsored" even though it was socialized by the member? Sites like thisnext and kaboodle take products socialized by users and append affiliate URLs thus making some of the products sponsored. But they make no indication which products are sponsored or not.



By: Yan

Fri, 06 Apr 2007 03:29:47 +0000

You will have to clarify what product display you are talking about. I understand the issue is that when comparing products it is important to highlight the advantage that sponsored results have over the rest. This compares well to me writing a paid post and not disclosing the fact. I believe you have every right to know that my objectivity may have been affected so you can adjust your point of view appropriately.



By: Scott

Fri, 06 Apr 2007 03:11:32 +0000

Now what if something is sponsored and that listing is socialized by a social shopping mechanism? Or in this case maybe a spider. It can still remain sponsored through a price comparison, but should it be labeled as such in the product display?



By: XynamaX

Fri, 06 Apr 2007 00:05:40 +0000

Use a kill-a-watt to find out which appliances are the real hogs.. You'd be surprised what some of those "wall wart" power supplies pull in, along with other appliances. Using home automation, X10, and programmable thermostats you can really save on energy costs. My house is setup so that the climate adjusts to our schedule. If we're sleeping, only the upstairs temperature is regulated, the downstairs is shutoff. There's tons of ways to save on electricity costs (timers, CFL energy saver bulbs, dimmers, etc). It costs up front, but you'll realize the savings in the long run.. -X



By: Larisa Hall

Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:59:56 +0000

http://blog.thefind.com/thefind_theblog/2007/04/thefinds_unbias.html Hi there - Siva Kumar, CEO of TheFind, posted his repsonse to the Venture Beat story on our blog...