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Wow. If you are just reading some of the buzz (it's about time!) about RSS, check out RSSlets - Functional RSS Feeds a series of prototypes for getting at RSS content that may be on the fringe of your idea...



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CDB Entry: RSSlets: Even More Ideas for RSS

Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:52:51 -0700

Wow. If you are just reading some of the buzz (it's about time!) about RSS, check out RSSlets - Functional RSS Feeds a series of prototypes for getting at RSS content that may be on the fringe of your idea...



comment by: Alan

Tue, 19 Aug 2003 15:07:06 -0700

As an after thought, it would have been a nice bonus if the source cide was provided (I give all of my code away and foolishly believe others would do the same)




comment by: Stephen Downes

Wed, 20 Aug 2003 03:43:36 -0700

I agree. But the hard part is finding the exact URL to request. Once you know the location, it's a snap to write a script that downloads the content, parses it, and returns the result as RSS.

I'm sort of surprised the author of the RSSlets didn't write a script to tap into weather stations worldwide and create weather RSS feeds. Then again, it has probably already been done and I just haven't seen it.




comment by: Alan Levine

Wed, 20 Aug 2003 05:55:25 -0700

Well yes, it is not hard for a programmer to figure out, but how amout my Mom? The important thing is creating and demo-ing new services that can expose syndicatable content that are useful and maybe soon starting to see more integration. It is still a fad, but moving up the meme lane fast.

The weather RSS demo circulated a few days ago, a search from feedster got it:
http://laughingmeme.org/weather-rss/




comment by: Stephen Downes

Wed, 20 Aug 2003 06:04:42 -0700

Well, your Mom isn't going to do a whole lot with the source code, either. What we want, of course, is for these feeds to be seamlessly integrated into useful apps.




comment by: Stephen Downes

Wed, 20 Aug 2003 06:10:54 -0700

All this raises an issue that has vexed me for some time.

In an RSS file (or, for that matter, in the links that are distributed via blogs), there are two ways to go:
1. Directly to the resource being linked - this is what I do, and what Scott Leslie does
2. To the blog post itself, in which if you look you will find the actual link embedded in the description text.

It's a real pain. There's no way really to tell in advance (though the major blogging tools predictably (and uselessly) point to the blog entry). Even worse, there's no way to identify the link - you have to scrape the description field, which defeats the whole point of the enterprise.

I don't know whether Atom addresses this, but it has for some reason been overlooked by the RSS community.

For someone - like me - who wants to aggregate and create direct and easy access to the resources, it is a pain. Some of the blogdexes do it (probably by scraping) but none efficiently, and I haven't seen anything that really puts the content of various resources together semantically.

In the LO world we have the same problem, except now there are three options:
1. Link goes directly to the LO
2. Link goes to some metadata page or manifest describing the LO
3. Link goes to a blog comment or some other third party reference to the LO

We need a better approach. IMHO.