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The media pundit's pundit. Written by NYC insider Jeff Jarvis, BuzzMachine covers news, media, journalism, and politics.

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By: Vox

Wed, 14 Sep 2005 06:00:30 +0000

SharpReader shows altered posts as just that. Post titles are bold until read, if a post is changed the title is once again bold - and italicized to note the alteration. I understand there are some readers that show you exactly what the change was. That seems like overkill in most cases - but would satisfy your request.

By: Mike Sierra

Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:59:55 +0000

Agreed. I understand RSS is really too (simple|stupid) to spec this, but clients at least ought to distinguish an update from a new post; diff-ing against cached content would be gravy.

By: Mark J

Mon, 12 Sep 2005 03:24:46 +0000

Hey, at least you made the correction. I caught Xeni at Boing Boing deleting a reference to that erroneous story that police in NOLA had shot and killed workers sent to repair the levees (in fact, the police shot and killed gang members who attacked the workers.) And to answer your question, it really is up to the feed reader. A really smart feed reader could compare the two versions, and highlight the changes. Most that I have used just bump the article back up.

By: MattV

Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:32:59 +0000

NewsGator can be set to download revised posts. Works great on sites with lots of updates.

By: EverKarl

Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:30:41 +0000

I think you already went above and beyond the standard of traditional media, so I wouldn't walk around with the hairshirt on.

By: Luke Blanshard

Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:37:08 +0000

FWIW, I read your blog via Bloglines, and corrections always reappear as unread messages. Each post has a "posted on" original posting timestamp, and optionally an "updated" timestamp. Your RSS feed must be providing this info.

By: Demosophist

Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:46:45 +0000

Because of RSS, should corrections cause new posts that can be seen in feeds?
I sure hope not, because I make corrections all the time to my posts. Not usually about something substantive, but for instance on this post, which is about being scammed by Classmates-Dot-Com's "automatic renewal" policy, I changed the term "cost switching" to the more general "preventing exit," because it's probably more apt. I also added an opening paragraph making excuses for such a petty dispute on the fourth anniversary of 9-11. I didn't leave a note about the changes anywhere, so those without the RSS feed won't even see them and those who only see the changed posts won't know that I'm editing on-the-fly. But at least in the case of the RSS readers I'm not that concerned. If they're interested enough in the post to comment then they have to click on the web link, which will give them an opportunity to read the edited version, as well as any acknowledgments I choose to make. The RSS readers may be the only ones aware of my overwrought compulsion to edit. As for acknowledgments, well I'm making one here, but if the changes aren't very substancial then fretting over them probably does more harm than good. That doesn't mean that I unerringly know what's substancial and what isn't, but there are plenty of "blog brothers and sisters" around to clue me in.

By: Tim Windsor

Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:02:04 +0000

...and if I'd been clever enough to NOT put my lame little joke about Dave inside HTML-style brackets, the post above would read something like *cough* Dave Winer *cougn*

By: Tim Windsor

Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:59:01 +0000

Yeah. What Rick said....

By: Tim Windsor

Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:58:17 +0000

Jeff, With NetNewsWire at least, any change to a post shows up with the post being unread. Thus I got both your post about the correction AND the original corrected post. I'm not sure, but I believe this is the expected behavior in RSS: if an item changes, it is scooped up again. (As an aside, one fun feature of NNW is that it shows all edits that have been made. So I get to watch bloggers who stealth-correct Dave Winer change the tone and, sometimes, the content of their posts without any further mention)

By: rick gregory

Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:57:18 +0000

Jeff, NetNewsWire 2.0 on the Mac lets you see edits to the item and to choose whether or not to consider the item new if it's been updated. Support isn't perfect since Brent has to work around feeds that don't use the GUID tag (A GUID is a globally unique ID that identifies the post even if things like the timestamp and title ar changed). If support for GUIDs (or some other equivalent mechanism) was widespread and popular feedreaders supported it this would be great.

By: Amy

Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:21:08 +0000

Excellent accountability, Jeff. Re RSS, yes, some kind of correction tag that sends the new corrected post to the feed would be ideal. Users could choose to enable a "correction" icon in their preferences, that would draw their attention to corrections.

By: dg

Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:45:03 +0000

I believe in the case of RSS, the current best practice is monetary reparation for all those who can provide the following: 1) Proof of having received the original post via an RSS reader 2) A 200-500 words, well written expression about their feelings regarding the original post, its affects upon their lives, and any deep-seated memories, emotions and/or meaning it may have stirred. 3) An additional 100-1000 words addendum to describe the disappointment, frustration and/or anger knowledge of the correction invoked.