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Updated: 2014-09-10T17:26:48.637+02:00


I wouldn't get too hung up about it Paul. Remember...


I wouldn't get too hung up about it Paul. Remember, Podcasting IS AC's day job - therefore he HAS to make money doing it. No-one is asking YOU to give your legal service for free. I don't suppose AC makes any money with HIS hobby and, no doubt spends more on it than you do on podcasting. As for encouraging others to make money out of it - why not? Personally I'm with you on this point - I do it becuase I enjoy it AND enjoy my day job. But remember, there are loads of people who hate what they do to pay the bills, and AC and Podshow are just trying to help them out. You may be right about the "magic beans" but I guess they have little to lose. Anyway, keep doing what you love and don't get too upset if not everyone sees things the way you do.



Funny this should come up. I hadn't tuned into "Th...


Funny this should come up. I hadn't tuned into "The Daily Source Code" for awhile now. I got the latest show via iTunes and started playing it. Withing 20 seconds I was hearing an Earthlink commercial. As soon as I heard that I unsubscribed and deleted all of Curry's DSC's back to about version 20. Sorry Adam, you just aren't interesting enough to listen to anymore, especially with radio spots. Now if we could just get PDub back! I would pay him directly for his podcasts.

Focus on your own reasons for Podcasting & you'll ...


Focus on your own reasons for Podcasting & you'll enjoy yourself all the more.

Keep it up!

Paul, The fact that you are so tortured by the fac...



The fact that you are so tortured by the fact that Adam Curry isn't giving you any love is proof enough that podcasting isn't just about doing something you love for a hobby. Why do you care that Adam Curry validates you or not? People, all people, want to be recognized for their good work. For some that is getting to say they are a lawyer who insists on taking no money for their hobby and it's well-received and one of the best in it's field anyway. For others, it's being able to make a living at doing something they love and it's well-received and one of the best in it's field anyway. I imagine if the world were filled solely of Podcast Paul's we'd have little or no conflict at all; but then again I think not.

A very well expressed thought and one which, to so...


A very well expressed thought and one which, to some level, I agree. I'd like to point out a couple of things though, in an effort to contribute some to the discussion. :) The first thing is that I believe Adam Curry gets probably several hundred emails per day. Possibly thousands. He seems to be a generally busy guy, which means that in all probability he is very behind on processing his email. I believe at one point I heard him mention having over 2,000 emails in his box to go through. When you send an email and get no reply, it stings a bit. I know. I've sent him a few as well as having made comments in his weblog. I haven't gotten any replies in email and no replies in the weblog that I can be sure were to me. The ones that could have been to me, could have been equally meant for other comments. I've even sent him an audio comment that hasn't yet been listened to after eight days. It stings a bit, but I remind myself... A. My contacting him places no obligation on him to read, acknowledge or respond. Even in the realms of polite behavior it does not, because it was a 'cold contact'. It would be nice, certainly. The fact is though, he may not even have seen the email with my audio comment yet. and B. Sometimes I go days without reading my email because I'm just too busy. So I have to give him the same slack I ask for. and C. Sometimes when I finally read my email and the event discussed is past, I might not reply if it's not someone I know personally. I imagine the pressure to keep replies to a minimum is even higher for him, due to his celebrity status. His time is as limited as ours is, with far more people demanding portions of it. (I'm not saying you demanded anything, just pointing out that others do and this probably affects him.) The second thing I'd like to discuss is the whole monetization thing. I love the idea of podcasting. In fact, I'm working hard on producing my own despite the universe's seeming determination to stop me. However, I have no money to put into it. I imagine there are many like me who either can't work, got fired/laid off for some reason, or who have a job but make just enough to survive and pay for their internet connection who want to podcast but literally don't have money to put into it. I'm doing it anyway. I have no mixer, no mic preamp, no off-computer usb recorder/soundcard. I'm using a cheap computer a cheaper soundcard, and a microphone that can be bought online for less than $7, which I've had for years... bought it back when I did have money to use for a karaoke machine. I see this as a hobby, yes... but let's be brutally honest. Without some form of monetization... be it commercials in my podcast (which I offer, as well as PSA's and Promos, at scheduled times and limited lengths), ads on my website (I've integrated adsense into my podcast website), or sponsorship of some kind... I simply will not be able to succeed. I am hosting the website myself, on a DSL connection to my home. The same connection I use to access the Internet myself. My upstream bandwidth is limited to about 500kbps, less than a decent ISDN line. At that rate, with my weekly show, I can handle about 85 listeners per week or so. Of course, that slows down the website, which runs on the same connection, as well as lagging my use of the Internet, and lagging the bbs and muck I host. The point being, that without monetization of some kind, My podcast will eventually fail. It will either get no listeners or it will reach a point on the yeast-growth law where lack of resources prevents growth, and will lose a few listeners who get frustrated with slow downloads and balance at a new optimax. Ideally, I would love to podcast full time. I'd have to, to be able to produce a show a day. I don't seem to have the knack for this that a lot of people have, and putting together this show is a lot of work for me. So, there it is. I love the idea of podcasting, I wan[...]

Jeez. Does QYDJ require you to quit your day job? ...


Jeez. Does QYDJ require you to quit your day job? No. I think the idea always has been that there will be some people who will get to a level that they could, if they so desired, quit their job and podcast fulltime for a reasonable paycheck. They just as easily could just look at it as an opportunity to makes some extra money, maybe even double their income (if it truly came up to the QYDJ level). Why is that bad?

I'm happy that you love what you do, and you have invested much time and effort honing your skills. But that's not true of everyone (like the aforementioned poo-poker). I for one used to have a job I was called Radio DJ and Production director. Unfortunately, the direction that business has taken made it less fun, and pay less (except to the chosen few Sterns of the world) than other endeavors. So I quit and got a "real" job. Unfortunately, the "real" job has no creative outlet, there's no sense of accomplishment, I get no buzz from selling shit (some do, and if that's your gig and you enjoy it, great. I do not). Podcasting allows me that creative outlet that I used to get at my low-paying smaller market radio jobs (my biggest market was Denver, which is number 23 or so).

I don't fault anyone for wanting to do something creative and fun and have it pay the bills. Who wouldn't want that? If it can happen, I'm all for it. And it doesn't mean Podcasting will turn into commercial radio. Although commercial radio, I'm sure, would like it to, and is doing it's best to crowd original programming down off the page on iTunes.

Paul, Great post. I think a lot of us have felt t...


Paul, Great post. I think a lot of us have felt this way at one time or another. Just like anything else there is a mainstream--Podshow, Ricky Gervais, Vobes--who must seek money because it's what they think it's all about, and because they are copying the very model they claim to be wishing to overthrow--fair play to them, I hope it works out; some will succeed others will fail. And then there are the mavericks, the hold-outs, the independants--whatever you want to call them--who are pushing the limits, damn the torpedos, I'm doing what I want to do because it's interesting, or fun, or whatever. We few. . .we do this because we want to. Sure it's nice to get a sponsor occasionally, or have someone send you something from your wishlist, or a bit of cash--that's icing on the cake.
Podcasting, I think, has to be seen as value added. It will hopefully replace mainstream media, but only if it remains free and open source. If people can know they can come to you for informaiton and you give it away, no strings, then they'll keep coming which will in and of itself lead to more--maybe not fame, or measurable success, but knowledge of your own and contact with like-minded people around the globe. That, to me, is the real payola and the reason to continue podcasting.

Right on Paul! I love being a Registered Nurse in ...


Right on Paul! I love being a Registered Nurse in the State of Pennslyvania and don't need to be told to Quit My Day Job. I believe you were referring to the PNE last November. I went with Andrew from solely as a podcast listener and came away with the desire to start my own videopodcast for the love of it.

Martin - here's the thing - I actually don't mind ...


Martin - here's the thing - I actually don't mind advertising that is helpful to me - i wish there was a place for cheap mikes, software, decent ISP's etc.

What you do is retain the enthusiasm for podcasting and make it pay - but not to the detriment of your podcast. I've got no probs with that at all. In fact, it actually may even be helpful if the content is placed and put right.

I like community, not exclusivity and that's the very thing I was trying to get over.

I am over it...phew.. I feellike I've given birth to a 30 pound monster...


Time for some nice helpful postings and podcasting now I think!


Paul good buddy, I can see where you are coming fr...


Paul good buddy, I can see where you are coming from. OK so AC doesn't acknowledge the work you do/have done in the past.But hey if we were in this for the fame I think most of us would have given up ages ago. No matter what the game is there are always going to be those who want to lead (and even more that will follow)But that's the beauty of PodCasting you do it your way, without restraints. As you know I was the first UK PodCast but I very rarely get acknowledgement for the fact. I have "broken" more you acts on to the PodCast scene than most, but still no public recognition. Do I care? Heck no, I do this because I can and no amount of hype by self proclaimed leaders is going to stop me from doing it. Keep on doing what you are doing Paul, we love ya for being you.


(BTW I have advertising on my show and have done for the past 12 months - do you notice it? lol)

You do sound like you need a nice cup of tea Paul....


You do sound like you need a nice cup of tea Paul.

But I agree it does appear that Adam Curry and the Podshow crew have forgotten what differentiates podcasting from broadcasting in the first place. Most of us early adopters have switched off mainstream / commercial radio because of the monetisation (if that is even a word) and formula based entertrainment.

Then was inevitable I guess. Commercials / Sponsorship or fee-based subscriptions (such as the Ricky Gervaise model) or some other business model were always going to happen somehwere along this journey. I don't know of too many human endeavours that someone hasn't tried to make money out of at some point.

I don't have a problem with podcasts asking for donations...or even subscriptions. I understand that even as a hobby it costs you guys money and some people just don't have that kind of money. If I enjoy a show I'll pay a 'reasonable' fee to listen to it. But I won't listen to adds.

cheers Jen! I just don't want folks led by the nos...


cheers Jen!

I just don't want folks led by the nose, it really irritates me.

Looking forward to the next edition of the mag (March 1st) and the next Podcastcon.

Wow! I'd make you a nice cup of tea if I were near...


Wow! I'd make you a nice cup of tea if I were nearer! :)

Curry is trying to make a living. It's what he does. He can't be completely faulted for that, though it's not the path for most podcasters.

PodcastCon UK was an amazing feat and I'm so proud of you four for getting it off the ground like you did. I was glad to volunteer where I could too. We had so many great folks involved that the next one will surely be even more successful!

The magazine sounds like it's a true passion. Are you guys going to continue to do it for free or do you have plans to try and print it? It's a slippery slope to get involved in the politics of ad revenue and retail shelf space/distribution if you go that way. (Or do you guys intend keep it non-profit? Either way will be challenging.) Whether it turns into an earner or not, all my luck & best to you for promoting podcasting in such a positive way. (Just try not to get the commercial guys get you down. :) )