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Comment on Unforced Variations: Apr 2018 by Hank Roberts

Tue, 24 Apr 2018 00:36:10 +0000

Victor, you're behind the news again with your rich maniac disaster scenario. It's been tried. and

Comment on Unforced Variations: Apr 2018 by Barton Paul Levenson

Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:54:42 +0000

V 173: And herein lies the most insidious potential consequence of all the irresponsible fear mongering we see now continually, not only in the media, but so much of the so-called “scientific” literature. Once someone with sufficient resources, influence and power manages to convince himself that something MUST be done and be done SOON, or the human race (complete with all those innocent grandchildren) is doomed, then the door is open to anyone susceptible enough to buy into that level of sheer panic and hysteria, and wealthy enough to act on those fears, to initiate some potentially destructive and irreversible scheme along the lines suggested by our well meaning but naive colleague, Mr. McDonald. BPL: Of course, you start by assuming there's no real danger. That's your main problem right there.

Comment on Unforced Variations: Apr 2018 by Barton Paul Levenson

Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:53:20 +0000

KIA 172: I apologize for losing my temper. But please keep in mind these accusations are aimed at real people, me among them.

Comment on Forced responses: Mar 2018 by Hank Roberts

Mon, 23 Apr 2018 21:51:49 +0000
... fishing operations are turning to other seafood to reduce their dependence on flying squid. But salmon, saury and mackerel have also experienced shortages in recent years, leaving fewer alternatives for fishers. Some food companies that specialize in squid have moved to processing potatoes as a side business....

Comment on Unforced Variations: Apr 2018 by nigelj

Mon, 23 Apr 2018 21:24:56 +0000

From my local newspaper, this seems like a useful tool: "Virtual reality game shows Wellington after sea level rise. It's hard to imagine sea level rising and creeping over city streets, but if you live in Wellington you don't have to." "The city council has developed a virtual reality simulator, allowing users to travel anywhere in the city, stand on the street, and see the impact of the rising sea levels."

Comment on The Silurian Hypothesis by Hank Roberts

Mon, 23 Apr 2018 18:47:54 +0000

One of my favorite unwritten science fiction stories describes how our alien overlords encouraged coal mining to eliminate interesting fossil strata. Those big coal-stripping machines don't leave much evidence behind.

Comment on Unforced Variations: Apr 2018 by CCHolley

Mon, 23 Apr 2018 18:25:13 +0000

Victor @171
A red herring is an irrelevant fact (or factoid) that serves to divert attention from the real point of an argument. Literally every response of yours, CC, is precisely of that order. You continually dodge the issue and then accuse me of not understanding the science. I have no problem with “actual physics” and real science, but I do have a problem when people like yourself continually insult my intelligence by trotting out one red herring after another, in lieu of a reasoned argument.
Red Herring: A clue, information, argument etc. that is or is intended to be misleading, diverting attention from the real answer or issue. So Victor feels that responses to his repeated false claims as to the conclusions that can be drawn from the warming period up to the 1940s and the pause of warming from 1940 to the 1970s is a red herring. Funny that Victor thinks that information relevant to what we know and don't know about those periods is a red herring. Especially when those periods do nothing to diminish the level of certainty we have as to the role of CO2 in warming the planet. Claims that Victor falsely puts forth. What is the real red herring? Positing that those periods cast doubt on the consensus science. They don't and the fact that Victor cannot understand that nor recognize a reasoned explanation as to why is evidence of his intellectual capacity. Too bad for Victor that he has a problem with people setting the record straight when it comes to the science.

Comment on Unforced Variations: Apr 2018 by Hank Roberts

Mon, 23 Apr 2018 18:08:06 +0000

Comment on Unforced Variations: Apr 2018 by Ray Ladbury

Mon, 23 Apr 2018 16:21:03 +0000

Mr. KIA@160, Not surprising to see an imbecile (KIA) singing the praises of another (Carrie). So, guys, I have a question: Why do you think it is a good thing that the models are wrong? Why do you think it helps those of you on the stupid side of the argument? After all, the existence of the greenhouse effect is in no way predicated on the validity of the models. That there will be positive feedbacks in the system is likewise an established fact. They are going to be in any model, and they are unlikely to provide you any less heartburn. Then, too, there is the question of what the models are for. George Box said, "All models are wrong; some models are useful." Climate models make many validated predictions. They fall short in some respects--but how they fail is in itself interesting. You are missing all of that. So, the science is settled. You aren't going to make concerns about anthropogenic climate change vanish by attacking the models. However, the science is never done--there is always more to learn...and it is foolish to assume that whatever you learn will decrease concern.

Comment on The Silurian Hypothesis by Russell

Mon, 23 Apr 2018 15:59:18 +0000

Brian Dodge says: 22 Apr 2018 at 11:22 PM if a single generation of bass fishermen had existed when the Green River formation was being deposited, there would be empty beer cans... Given the ubiquity of clay, I think it likely that ceramics would be an early development of any technological civilization, and they are robust and inert enough to survive in many metamorphic and some igneous environments This is apt, as the mightily metamorphosed Green River formation contains natural silicon carbide SiC- the mineral moissanite. That bizarre outcrop of fossil carborundum may have inspired my old-school petrology professor to introduce his course with the words: "Rocks are just ceramics that happen to have been made by God."