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ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is HAIDA HR in Hangzhou China legit or a scam ESL agency?
Author: Ms. Molly
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:59 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Thanks Shannon, my sister just sent me this link as well... https://www.reddit.com/r/ChinaJobs/comments/5uahi9/beware_of_hangzhou_helen_haida_and_her_china_tefl/

How to warn people about them?







ESL in China [Only]... :: Monkey Tree English School In Hong Kong - Legit or Scam?
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: Monkey Tree English School In Hong Kong - Legit or Scam?
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:30 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

Have any of you worked there before?. The pay is good but the housing costs are steep. Opinions?



ESL in China [Only]... :: China Internship Scams Are Many - Real Ones Are FREE!
Author: Liza
Subject: China Internship Scams Are Many - Real Ones Are FREE!
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:29 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

If you want to intern in China be aware you are already a target for fraud by companies like these that have hundreds of pop-up ads and google "adwords" ery working for them every day. (see below links to identify the fraudsters).

Never ever pay money for a China Internship since the REAL ones are free and you can apply yourself DIRECTLY with any Fortune 500 or MNC company operating in China in about 1 hour or less. Simply fax your resume, photo, and contact info to the HR department to ATTENTION: Intern Coordinator. Send your resume before April 15th if you are looking for a summer placement. They will provide you the required invitation letter you will need for a Z Visa.

These two links will keep you away from the many scams: http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/fake-gi2c-china-internship-testimonials-reviews-mislead-lure-scam-victims and http://freechinainternships.blogspot.co.uk. Also keep in mind that only about 5% of interns are ever hired for a full-time position in China.




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is Laowai Career Job Center in Beijing China Legit or Scam?
Author: Dragonbreath
Subject: This company cheats foreign ESL & TEFL Teachers in China
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:56 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 6

Two weeks ago, I actually met the owner if this company at Annie's Restaurant in Beijing - a Russian guy named Y***. He is the biggest braggart I met in China (so far at least) and when he was hitting on the waitress, I just figured he was drinking too much. But when I talked with him he seemed quite sober. He claimed he is personal friends with Vladimir Putin and that his dad was in the KGB! He also claims to have five Chinese GFs in different provinces and because his c**k was so big he could have as many as he wanted. He claims he was even offered a position playing professional footbal on the Russian team!

I have to admit that the Russian girl that was with him was pretty hot. He had a Ferrari key fob but the only car key on it was for a Toyota! Here is my mind's photo of the jerk;

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ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: 2017 Average China TEFL & ESL Teacher Salary Now 16,500
Author: unionjack
Subject: UK TAX
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:55 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Hi Okay

Thanks for using the forum.

A UK citizen does not have to pay tax on foreign income when they are living and working abroad, if their permanent home ('domicile') is abroad or indeed if they are not normally resident in the U.K. (They spend less than 90 days per year in the UK)

Cheers

UJ




ESL in China [Only]... :: 2017 Average China TEFL & ESL Teacher Salary Now 16,500
Author: Okay
Subject: 2017 Average China TEFL & ESL Teacher Salary Now 16,500
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:09 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

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This is about $3,000 per month, but don't forget this is the gross pay. If you are from America, Canada, or the UK, you will be taxed twice and net about $2,000 a month. Of course, some regions and employers pay more, but you really need to read this https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?715324-Real-salaries-pay-wages-and-earnings-hidden-from-China-ESL-amp-TEFL-Teacher-job-applicant

Korea, Japan,Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Singapore pay more than double and even triple but the cost of living is also higher. But everyone is not trying to cheat and skim you in Singapore, Japan, Taiwan, Korea, or Hong Kong.

Don't be misled or low-balled by the agents. They are disinformation specialists and will even try to convince you that 7,000 a month is "normal" salary in China. That is truly shit pay unless you come from Nigeria. Native English speakers do not earn less than 20,000 a month unless they are really dumb and gullible.

Also see: http://www.chinascambusters.com for more details







ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Which Schools Pay Best Salaries in China To TEFL Teachers?
Author: Ms. Molly
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:43 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

I just found this newspaper article online and it says that China ESL & TEFL teachers are the lowest paid expats in China! http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/epaper/2015-07/23/content_21388975.htm

Two days ago I saw my recruiter driving in Beijing in his new BMW while I am riding a $150 bicycle. I wonder how much money she made off of me?




ESL in China [Only]... :: Is HAIDA HR in Hangzhou China legit or a scam ESL agency?
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: Is HAIDA HR in Hangzhou China legit or a scam ESL agency?
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:09 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

I got a really strange but interesting call from a girl named Scarlet who apologized "for the delay in getting back to me", when in fact I never contacted her! But she offered me a 15,000 yuan job in Shandong and claims I don't need a Z visa nor a university diploma. Who are these people? Scarlet says the company is 10 years old and owned by the Chinese government. How can I verify this? Your feedback would be appreciated guys.



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: China foreign teachers cheated of wages get their pay quick!
Author: More Or Less
Subject: ESL teachers get last paycheck from China cheater employers
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:46 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Every ESL, TEFL, & AP teacher in China knows you have about a 10% chance of getting paid your last month’s paycheck or getting any “deposits” they made you pay when you decide to move on to a better job. In fact, a lot of these China employers will even try to extort teachers for money to get the required “release letter” the China labor law says they must provide for free. Although I retired from teaching last year to start my own business, this is how I always got every penny owed to me and it never failed me once... https://chinaforeignteachersunion.wordpress.com/



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Some bad news for China foreign ESL & TEFL Teachers
Author: Dragonbreath
Subject: China salaries for ESL & TEFL foreign teachers.
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:48 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

When it rains, it pours... http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/epaper/2015-07/23/content_21388975.htm



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is Laowai Career Job Center in Beijing China Legit or Scam?
Author: Grumpy
Subject: Why China job applicants need to avoid Laowai Career Center
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:03 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 6

No comments required. Just read... http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/record-number-foreign-expat-esl-tefl-teachers-lose-china-jobs-after-being-arrested-deported

Now read this great testimonial from a LCC client;

https://scam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18265&d=1488989202

(image) China... a little bit of heaven and hell in just one place!




ESL Jobs From Home... :: RE: Online teaching
Author: St. George
Subject: Typos?
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:49 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 31

There are several typos {打字(或排印)错误} in your post or is this proof that you are not a native speaker



ESL in China [Only]... :: How China Expat ESL TEFL & AP Teachers Avoid Identity Th
Author: CFTU Subject: How China Expat ESL TEFL & AP Teachers Avoid Identity Th Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:10 am (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 0 This post has been moderated. UJ First, the bad news... About 35% of all the online ads for ESL, TEFL, & AP teaching jobs in China were posted by more than 3,000 known identity thieves. The dream jobs are fake and they only want your resume a,d then after a fake skype interview - your passport scan. Then after you accept their fake job offer they will ask for your "Taxpayer Identification Number" (aka social security or national ID number). Because you think you are about to get a $40,000 or even $60,000 job teaching in China, you do not hesitate. And then you get the bad news that particular job was filled. But they offer you another China job at half the pay scale. Whether you take Job B or not, you may have just been victimized for identity theft that you won't even know about for 3-6 more months, when the police come to arrest you. Of course you will sort it all out and they will apologize after you spend a few nights in jail and your family spends $5,000 to hire a lawyer for you. In 2016, over 1,600 expats working in China learned a very expensive and embarassing lesson about sending their resumes to strangers. https://chinascamwatch.wordpress.com. Now the good news... you can prevent all of this and eliminate the risk that you will also be a victim, even if you are already a target. 1.) Never give your full name on your first resume. For example if you are Patrick Steven Walker. Your resume should say: P. Steven Walk. 2.) Never include your personal home address or telephone number on a resume which can reveal your true identity. Use your email and mobile number for contact. 3.) Edit your Skyp profile so it does not contain specific information. 4.) Do not ever send passport scans unless and until you have a VERIFIABLE written job offer from a known employer whose website provides a phone number for you verify. Do not trust phone numbers given to you by recruiters nor agents as the numbers could simply belong to one of their friends (shills) who will pretend to be an HR Director or FAO of a China employer. Then provide your passport scan directly by fax or email to ONLY the direct employer - not to agents and recruiters. 5.) You need not ever disclose your social security number or national ID card to any employer in China. You must provide them a photo and your passport Number. Of course your China job agent and recruiter will tell you to ignore all this advice and the CFTU and maybe even call us a troll or "troublemaker". We care about your safety in China - not what agents and recruiters think about us. Here are some links you can give them to shut them up... https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/scams-fraudes/id-theft-vol-eng.htm https://www.identityprotection.com/education/stay-informed/how-posting-your-resume-online-could-lead-to-identity-theft https://lifehacker.com/118742/identity-theft-via-online-resumes https://www.cityweekend.com.cn/beijing/article/scam-alert-headhunter-fraud https://hamiltonwriting.com/job-offer-scams-a-new-trend-in-fraud-and-identity-theft https://www.cityweekend.com.cn/china/article/fake-disney-recruiter-scam https://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com/2015/02/16/fraud-warning-china-foreign-teachers-expat-travelers-victimized-by-job-and-visa-agents-for-identity-theft-scam/ https://thecareerexperts.com/jobseekers/tips-strategies/is-someone-stealing-your-resume-in-this-tough-economy-resume-theft-is-on-the-rise/ https://www.cityweekend.com.cn/beijing/article/scam-[...]



ESL Jobs From Home... :: RE: Part-time Job Teaching English Online
Author: St. George
Subject: North American native speaker
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:25 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Kayotts, you are not a native speaker and there is a good possibility that you are not North American and not even based there. Therefore, how did you get a job with VipKid?



ESL Jobs From Home... :: Part-time Job Teaching English Online
Author: kayotts
Subject: Part-time Job Teaching English Online
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:31 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Hey all - For the past few months, I've been teaching with VIPKID. It's been a great experience teaching Chinese kids English one-on-one. I get paid $20 per hour plus there are great incentives. If your interested, you have to a native North American speaker and willing to teach their curriculum. Check it out here: https://t.vipkid.com.cn/?refereeId=2558676

Happy Teaching!
Karen




ESL Jobs From Home... :: RE: Online teaching
Author: kayotts
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:31 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 31

I'm teacher English online to Chinese kids and have a great experience.



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Study In China REMOVED Just Another Chinese Education Scam?
Author: Dragonbreath
Subject: I saw the warnings too late. They got me and my sister!
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:47 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

This post has been moderated UJ

I wish I saw this warning last year. They already screwed me and my sister out of a bunch of fees and deposits we had to pay to (Name removed) They created this second company so that they can legally say that (Name removed) charges no fees. They are all crooks and not to be believed. I just searched them again now on Google and there are no less than 10 warnings but I never saw any of them until after we got burned. Timing is everything. https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4593050&p=70403722#post70403722




ESL in C. Asia, Far East & Australia... :: Are there any ESL blacklists for Korea, Japan, & Singapo
Author: Dragonbreath
Subject: Are there any ESL blacklists for Korea, Japan, & Singapo
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:39 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

I am now working in China but planning on making this making this my last year. I want to start making inquiries throughout Asia. Your help is appreciated. Thanks!



ESL in China [Only]... :: Laowai Career Center in Hangzhou is bu hao scam!!!
Author: .etc
Subject: Laowai Career Center in Hangzhou is bu hao scam!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:57 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

Whoah! Talk about good timing... I was just about to sign up with these guys and pay a processing fee based on their "guaranteed placement", when I realized the wording in their terms and conditions was a bit vague. When I asked to put the things they promised me on the phone into the contract, they refused. So I decided to search them on Yahoo and Google and found this in .9 seconds: http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/laowai-career-center-189-other-black-scam-agencies-get-more-2500-foreign-china-tefl-teachers

I have blocked them on my phone, Skype, and email. I urge my TEFL colleagues to do the same.




ESL in China [Only]... :: The good, bad, & ugly about Reddit China ESL teacher job
Author: .etc
Subject: The good, bad, & ugly about Reddit China ESL teacher job
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:43 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

It appears that most are shady black market jobs and "other" problems. This is the ugly part about Reddit: http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/reddit-mods-include-china-job-agents-hiding-truth-about-arrests-foreign-tefl-esl-teachers

The good part about Reddit is that teachers have begun exposing the "problems" here: http://Reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral.




ESL in China [Only]... :: The Uncensored Truth About China Job Scams & REAL Salari
Author: Shannon
Subject: The Uncensored Truth About China Job Scams & REAL Salari
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:39 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

I found this in the most unlikely place but it is worth it's weight in gold since we are not allowed to identify China scam people by name here on this forum >>>>> https://reddit.com/r/ChinaScamCentral/



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is Laowai Career Job Center in Beijing China Legit or Scam?
Author: Liza Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:58 pm (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 6 These creeps are super slick. They really pretend to care about your "future career in China" but my friend used them to apply for a job and she discovered that although their main office is in Beijing, they tell people it is in Hangzhou where they have a shared office with a Chinese language company "That's Mandarin". They are "cooperators" and the language company puts out really optimistic articles about working in China and then finds a way to embed a link to Laowai Career Center and then the sales reps at LCC will say "look at all the good things people say about us"! I know because I fell for it - once when the same people were running the Getin2China visa scam in 2010, (The language company may or may not be in on the scam - we don't know for sure). My friend found these people by replying to a job ad for a "PR Specialist". When she went for the interview she met the handsome Russian guy mentioned in the OP. He offered her 12,000 a month to write blogs promoting his company and "great fun working in China". He claimed he had three full time writers doing this now and one had to go back to the States for medical treatment. She almost took the job until he told her that she was never allowed to mention foreign teachers getting arrested in China which made her suspicious and then he told her that she would also have to write articles about his "other company Gi2c". So when she went home that night she googled the "other company" and called me for some advice. I told her what I read at scam.com and other scam warning sites. Thankfully, my very talented friend did not take the job or she would have been part of the fraud and not even know it. BTW... here is one of the wonderful but false articles that he showed her as "an example" of what he wanted, and he claimed that he himself wrote this article "http://mandarin.cafe/blog/teaching-in-china-the-ideal-job-that-pays-better-than-professional-jobs". Any TEFL or ESL teacher working in China today will tell you staright away that foreign teachers are the lowest paid expats working in China. Even a marketing specialist at Lenovo where my ex works makes 27,000 amonth compared to 15,000 for an average English teacher. So they use one lie to sell another lie. Here is the truth my friends: http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=103895&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 and also here at this link: http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.org (China pay charts) Over the last 5 years, the pay for teachers has only gone up 10% while housing costs jumped almost 30%. The pay of professionals working in China has increased more than 20%. If you fall for the BS sold by Laowai Career Center, you will find yourself trapped with a roommate or two just to survive in China economically. I live here in China now for almost 6 years. I know what I am talking about. I stayed because my husband opened a small restaurant that provides us a comfortable life - except for the damn pollution. Teaching in China is only suitable for a young person without any debts who just wants to have some fun for a year and get a China job on their international resume. YOU WILL NOT SAVE ANY MONEY IN CHINA unless you are very frugal. As for a "career" in[...]



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is Laowai Career Job Center in Beijing China Legit or Scam?
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: Scam: On China Job Fraud using 5 company names to advertise!
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:13 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 6

I was looking for some other information on a training center in China when I came across three identical ads that went to three different companies. I clicked on each one and then realized this one scam artist operates the same China Job and internship scheme under 5 different company names and has a ten year history of doing it in China! http://www.realscam.com/search.php?searchid=508615

This is proof that not all the people scamming foreigners in China are NOT Chinese so wake up people!




Getting the ESL Job... :: RE: Warning! China ESL & TEFL Jobs are NOT safe anymore
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: There is an even bigger problem with China ESL Jobs
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:04 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Wow. What a wake up call. I think people with asthma should not even be allowed to step off an airplane in China!

But there is a bigger problem about working in China imo - in any job. There are so many scams related to job applicants and the people running the frauds use so mnay different names to advertise like this guy, who is a Russian (proof that the China scams are not all run by Chinese) http://www.realscam.com/search.php?searchid=508615. The guy operates the same China job fraud under five deifferent names! (that I know of).

So its sort of like they are fishing for victims with many different fishing poles and angles. It was an accident that I made this discovery when I realized I was talking to the same voice on the phone from two "different" companies, with 2 different phone numbers!




Say Anything... :: RE: How to Be a Successful Sales Advisor
Author: Admin010
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:11 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

You just have to practice watchfulness as well as employ some smarts in the process of getting them. For ever and a day be on the lookout for fakes. Make sure that what's in the interior the box is the item you have purchased. Never go for knock-offs. The whole point of purchasing is to waltz absent with something that you feel would be an upgrading to you as well as your lifestyle, and this would be useless if you only end up dissatisfied and unhappy with your purchases.
Thanks & Regards,
Angel anave




ESL in China [Only]... :: More foreign ESL teachers arrested in China - Don't be next!
Author: Okay
Subject: More foreign ESL teachers arrested in China - Don't be next!
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:13 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

It is not really hard to get arrested in China. It happened to a good friend of mine who was too lazy to check the information he was given by his recruiter. So many of them lie to get a signed contract, and people who never came to China like those in the link below, have no reason to doubt them. This is what happens next; http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com/2017/02/almost-3000-foreign-employees-arrested.html

My friend is now back Milwaukee working as a server in a sports bar trying like hell to get a visa for his pregnant Chinese fiance.




ESL in China [Only]... :: The Very Best China Q&A Link For Expat ESL Teachers Ever
Author: More Or Less
Subject: The Very Best China Q&A Link For Expat ESL Teachers Ever
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:39 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

In one link, I found all the factual information my recruiter Grace W. was hiding from me and my friends about working in China. So the next time you get the feeling you are not be told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth from your China job recruiter, expose their lies right here and warn others about their sneaky deceptions https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST&p=1944475#post1944475



ESL in China [Only]... :: Some bad news for China foreign ESL & TEFL Teachers
Author: Grumpy
Subject: Some bad news for China foreign ESL & TEFL Teachers
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:39 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

In China when the government wants to send messages to foreigners or the world in general, they publish articles through two English newspapers, the China Daily and The Global Times. Well, they recently published a message directed at the foreign English teachers working in China. http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/981575.shtml I am changing my career plans and will probably teach in Korea or Japan next year.



Getting the ESL Job... :: RE: Warning! China ESL & TEFL Jobs are NOT safe anymore
Author: Grumpy
Subject: China is no longer a good deal 4 China Foreign English Teach
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:28 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Yes, the winters in China are horrific but the summers are not so bad. But most of the women working here are always complaining about what the dry air does to their skin. But there are bigger problems facing China foreign English teachers as you can see in this Global Times newspaper article http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/981575.shtml



Getting the ESL Job... :: Warning! China ESL & TEFL Jobs are NOT safe anymore
Author: Shannon Subject: Warning! China ESL & TEFL Jobs are NOT safe anymore Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:47 pm (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 2 I am not joking. Working in China is not safe for your health nor your wallet. I am leaving China when my contract expires and I think everyone should be warned about four things; 1.) The toxic air pollution in China actually killed over 5 million people in 2015 yet the ESL recruiters never even mention to you that you must wear an air filter mask during the 5 months of winter as you can see in the photo and chart I posted. This documentary film explains better tha I can https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6X2uwlQGQM#t=45. University research at Berkley says that you are better off smoking a pack of cigarettes every day than breathing the air in Beijing! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3201954/Breathing-Beijing-s-air-equivalent-smoking-FORTY-cigarettes-day-Smog-map-China-reveals-shocking-extent-pollution.html 2.) The pay in China for ESL & TEFL teachers is the lowest in East Asia compared to Japan, Korea, and Singapore. The difference can be as much as 120% even after the variance of cost of living is factored in. 3.) If you rely on an agency or free-lance recruiter to find you a job, you have about a 10% chance of finding an honest one and a 90% chance of getting cheated. See http://chinascamwatch.org and this article http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/beijing/article/scam-alert-foreign-teacher-fraud 4.) 18% of the Chinese population is infected with Hepatitis and it is spreading like a forest fire because about half of the people here cannot afford health care and do not even know they are infected yet! http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/phpbbforum/post1975839.html?sid=e4468fd18f02e9bcaa20d0cab6b45f26#p1975839 If you have asthma, sensitive skin, or alergies DO NOT COME TO CHINA. They do not even sell Benadryl here and when I had to buy it online it cost me $89 for 12 tablets because $40 was shipping and import tax charges. [...]



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: A China job is a big mistake for ESL & TEFL Teachers...
Author: Shannon
Subject: China Teaching Jobs paying more money now because of polluti
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:22 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

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You are right and I too am leaving in June when my contract expires. I think TEFL and ESL teachers who take jobs in big cities should be asking for "Hazardous Duty Pay" - at least an extra 3,000 yuan per month. My colleague had such a bad reaction to the air pollution that he vomited for 3 hours and had to be hospitalized for 24 hours and put on oxygen. The above chart shows the worst places to work in China (Beijing, Shanghai, Tianjin, and Jinan are the very worst in my own opinion. BTW... if you think I am exaggerating just how bad it is, watch this documentary that went viral on the internet here before the Chinese government blocked it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6X2uwlQGQM#t=45




ESL in China [Only]... :: A China job is a big mistake for ESL & TEFL Teachers...
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: A China job is a big mistake for ESL & TEFL Teachers...
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:12 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

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This is my last year in China. The above photo is only 50% of my reasons, here are the others I share as a warning to other newbie teachers looking East. Singapore is extremely clean and the pay is triple while the cost of living is about double that of China. Korea and Japan are also much cleaner with higher pay than China and less than half the scams. https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST&p=1944461#post1944461




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is Laowai Career Job Center in Beijing China Legit or Scam?
Author: Durango
Subject: NAME REMOVED is China Scam Artist with Laowai Career Center
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:01 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 6

This post has been moderated UJ

The short answer is RUN! This is just another one of the many China scams set up by that Russain con artist Name removed. Here is his last scam that had so many people fooled with all of his fake testimonials and "independent reviews" that turned out to be bought.. https://eslwatch.info/en/eslwatch-forum/china/117-fraud-warning-gi2c-and-other-china-job-internship-scams-beware-people.html

Other past scams this guy created in China over the last ten years included Getin2China (a black visa scam that the cops finally shut down),
ChinaJobExpress (selling fake university degrees), Gi2c (selling you the right to work for free at an illegal China internship), Wiseway Global Education (charging huge fees to get you enrolled in a university when all he did was fill out enrollment applications that you can do yourself for free online). And now his latest creation is this Laowai Career China job agency scam.

Anything with the name Name removed in it in China will certainly be a scam guys. Read here for more info and a photo of his veteran scam team, one of whom I met at a pub in Beijing 3 years ago and she bragged about how much money she made and even admitted that half the stuff she told people was made up so they would sign up. https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST&p=1944379#post1944379




ESL in China [Only]... :: Is Laowai Career Job Center in Beijing China Legit or Scam?
Author: Grumpy
Subject: Is Laowai Career Job Center in Beijing China Legit or Scam?
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:52 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 6

Their web site is minimal and they appear to be new on the China job scene. But I cannot find their name listed with SAFEA or on the SAIC business database in any tier 1 city in China. Anyone know anything about these guys? Are they Chinese, foreigners, and where is their office located? Thanks in advance for your feedback.



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Fraud Alert 4 ESL Placement Agencies in Hangzhou & Zheji
Author: Liza
Subject: Hangzhou, China ESL Teacher Job Scams
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:59 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

This may help our ESL colleagues avoid at least 5 scam land mines in Hangzhou : https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST&p=1944232#post1944232



ESL in China [Only]... :: Fraud Alert 4 ESL Placement Agencies in Hangzhou & Zheji
Author: China.Scam.Patrol Subject: Fraud Alert 4 ESL Placement Agencies in Hangzhou & Zheji Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:16 am (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 1 We are not allowed to name scam artists here in the forum but we want to warn all who read this to know that 7 of the 9 ESL/TEFL teacher job placement agencies based in Zhejiang Province are controlled by one woman whose first name begins with the letter H. She is a professional scam artist. They are based in the City of Hangzhou. She has a long and nefarious record going back to 2010 of cheating and exploiting teachers, recruiting them to work illegally without Z visas and university degrees, and then do nothing to help her teachers after they get arrested and jailed for visa violations. She seldom if ever pays the last paycheck and tries to sell teachers their release letters which the law says she must provide for free. She operated under 7 different alias and they are ALL BLACKLISTED by the CTA, CFTU, ESLWatch.info, and China Liars List at Scam.com. To get the names of all these scam artisits and black recruiters (unlicensed agents who use untraceable Chinglish names) visit and read these links BEFORE you send a resume to anyone related to working in China. http://chinascamwatch.wordpress.com http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com http://eslwatch.info/forum/china http://www.chinascambusters.com http://chinascamwatch.org https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! [...]



Getting the ESL Job... :: Scam Warning For ESL Teachers Seeking Jobs In China...
Author: China.Scam.Patrol
Subject: Scam Warning For ESL Teachers Seeking Jobs In China...
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:16 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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China can be a real fun adventure or can be a horrible nightmare. I have lived and worked in China for 11 years and must warn you all to read 5 links BEFORE you send a resume to anyone related about a teaching job. Be aware that over 90% of the jobs you see at Beijinger, EChinacities, Sinocities, Gumtree, Craiglist, and ESLCafe are FAKE JOBS - only designed to collect your resume. WHY?

http://chinascamwatch.wordpress.com

https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST

http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com

http://chinascamwatch.org

http://eslwatch.info/forum.china

If you read these five links you will make yourself scam-proof and able to find a genuine and safe teaching job in China. Good luck!




ESL in China [Only]... :: New 2017 China ESL & TEFL School CFTU White List 4 Teach
Author: CFTU
Subject: New 2017 China ESL & TEFL School CFTU White List 4 Teach
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:04 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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Sorry for the delay ladies and gents but Michelle's father passed away last week, and in her rush to get back to her homeland she forgot to leave the white list code with us. We finally was able to get her attention and now the list is posted for your protection at http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com/2017/01/cftu-publishes-2017-white-list-of-china.html

Our blacklist was also recently updated at http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.org.
Best wishes to all of you in the new year and remember not to drink the tap water, don't use reusable plastic chopsticks, and wear your air filter mask until April 15th.

The CFTU Team

P.S. Michelle thanks you all for your kind emails and prayers
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The CFTU is China's first and only private labor union representing the 25,000+ foreign teachers now working in China. Visit our website at www.ChinaForeignTeachersUnion.org for details and join our cause if you agree with it!




Training for ESL Teachers... :: RE: What course should I take?
Author: sherrijohn
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:28 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

I just got TEFL certified with www.gettefl.com. Great course! I learned so many helpful teaching techniques. I highly recommend this course for any teachers who are planning on teaching English abroad.



ESL in Korea [Only]... :: RE: Visa in Korea
Author: sherrijohn
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:26 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

The visa process takes 3 weeks once all of your documents are ready,



Open ESL Expert Discussion... :: RE: EFL Resume, CV- What to put when done teaching.
Author: StanD
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:59 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 7

I'd say that this resume guide is essential but it's not laconic, though. Updating your resume can be a daunting task but with the right approach or even resume help service you will be able to create your CV really quickly. Wish you all good (image)



New ESL Teachers... :: RE: ESL now, or after law school?
Author: StanD
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:26 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Hi Tang,

I'm really curious if you took that chance... I hope you are skiing Japanese mountains right now haha

Look forward!

- Stan




Getting the ESL Job... :: RE: New User
Author: StanD
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:21 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Welcome!

What ideas do you want to share? (image)




Getting the ESL Job... :: RE: Question on would I be hirable based on age
Author: StanD
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:18 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Hi Steve,

You have a solid background. It is doable for sure but as admin above said some countries won't take you at that age.

Wish you good luck!




Getting the ESL Job... :: RE: Online teaching
Author: StanD
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:47 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Hi Naomi,
Have you considered upwork? Also, here's a great article:
http://moneypantry.com/make-money-teaching-english-online/




Getting the ESL Job... :: RE: Want to take my family with me.
Author: StanD
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:36 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

Giv9 wrote:
Certainly. A qualified teacher with prior abroad teaching experience can find good jobs. Mostly teachers are sought after in Asian countries (not the subcontinent countries like India or Sri Lanka).

But a British national doesn't have to look beyond the European countries.


Seconded. You won't find many such jobs but they are certainly there. It might take up to a year or two to find it, though. Wish you all good




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: International English School
Author: Giv9
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:23 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Thank You for the alert.