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ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Uncensored China ESL & TEFL Blacklists Name 389 Cheaters
Author: Durango
Subject: China ESL & TEFL School & Recruiter Blacklist 4 Teac
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:37 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

From the depths of my heart, I say XIE XIE for these great links!



ESL in China [Only]... :: New REMOVED Scam Targets ESL & TEFL China Foreign Teache
Author: Durango
Subject: New REMOVED Scam Targets ESL & TEFL China Foreign Teache
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:24 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

This post has been moderated UJ

Do not respond to either new (Names removed) or you will make the same mistake as my ex GF in China who just lost some major money and is so angry is going back home to Seattle. She was so embarrassed that she hid this from me for two weeks. Although I knew there was something she wasn't telling me, I just thought she had another fight with Danny her new BF. But this morning, I saw she had left this on the computer screen and left without exiting the screen. Finally, when I asked her why she was reading that, she said she was "one of the dummies". When I offered to go with her to the police station, she just said she was going back home to America. No matter what I said could change her mind. I hope Danny can. https://www.scam.com/entry.php?6474 (Names removed)




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: 6 China Teacher Job Recruiters Arrested Now Ratting On Clie
Author: Shannon
Subject: UPDATE ON ARRESTED CHINA FOREIGN TEACHERS
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:59 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

My apartment is across the street from the Haidian main police department and when I came home yesterday I saw three white vans unloading 18 foreigners in handcuffs. I hollered out to them from behind the fence and asked them if they were teachers and they said yes. I then recognized one of the girls, but then one of the police started walking in my direction so I rode off on my bike.

When I got home I called a Chinese lawyer i met when my neighbor got arrested about a year ago for using a fake diploma and tefl certificate. Anyway the lawyer went to see if she could help.

She was not allowed to meet with the teachers but left them papers with instructions what to do and left her phone number. But she told me privately that all of them came from the same recruiter and they would all be deported in 31 days. I asked why "31 days"?. She told me that the cops now have orders not to let any illegal teacher out of jail before 30 days even if they pay their $2,000 fine tomorrow. SHe said they are trying to "send a message to all the expats working in China" that the Chinese government now has a "zero tolerance" policy in place.

I guess those 18 teachers will now hate China the rest of their lives. I personally think they should be locking up the recruiter, not the teachers.




ESL in China [Only]... :: Study Abroad Counseling & TOEFL-SAT Tutoring in China
Author: Okay Subject: Study Abroad Counseling & TOEFL-SAT Tutoring in China Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:40 am (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 0 This post has been moderated UJ HELP CHINESE STUDENTS AVOID STUDY ABROAD FRAUD! The reason I decided to start counseling young Chinese students about study abroad and passing the difficult TOEFL & SAT tests is because two kids on the Little League Team I coached in Beijing got ripped off by big name companies (Names removed) which charged them huge fees and then did something very despicable IMO. Both companies promised placement in one of the top 10 "Dream Universities" but deliberately pushed the students to pick 2 or 3 schools they never heard of but where the study abroad companies had great relationships, and where they collected a 12% and 15% commission on the tuition fees. One of the students had his heart set on Rutgers but since Rutgers does not pay any such commission (none of the top 50 schools pay any fees to agents), the "BIG" study abroad company simply told him, "we will apply you there but your 85 TOEFL score is simply not good enough". In reality, they never submitted his application to Rutgers, but told my student that they did. (I checked with Rutgers personally) Furthermore, after I talked with some new friends at China Scam Patrol, I learned that the first "acceptance letters" will always come from one of the three universities, the student is persuaded to add to his/her dream list, and when it arrives they celebrate with the student and tell him/her how lucky they are. In reality, it is Names removed, and the others who are celebratingbecause now they get to collect money at both ends - from the student, and the university! https://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com/2013/08/11/chinese-university-students-getting-scammed-abroad-and-in-china-by-study-work-abroad-frauds/ I was then invited to work for the third largest study abroad company in China owned by a Chinese-Australian and after two rounds of interviews I learned that they also knew how to manipulate the placements of the Chinese students in ways that could not be proven because of the "confidentiality and privacy agreement" they make their clients sign. I turn down the job that came with a a 40,000 monthly salary because I wanted to be able to look at myself in the mirror every day and be proud of what I do and don't do. I really detest cheaters, especially when the victims are young and gullible kids. I then spoke with an old friend of mine from Princeton where I once worked as an admissions counselor over 16 tears ago, screening Spanish speaking applicants. He became a dean of admissions at less famous university now ranked at 127-130. I learned from him that his pay is directly linked to the quota of international students recruited, whose tuitions are almost double those of domestic U.S. students. He admitted to me that they did, in fact, pay referral fees to over a dozen such agents in China and when parents occasionally found out and protested, "they had a sure-fire way to calm the waters, and found the student a scholarship" that no recruiter will ever mention. Why? Because recruiters do not collect commissions on scholarships - only tuition moneys! They actually want the students to pay as much as possible so they can earn higher fees. I then noticed how the kids were being taught TOEFL and it was simply rote memorization that was marginally effective. I wondered why TOEFL students I taught had an 88% success rate and why the huge companies were only getting 65%-70% of their students passed. It didn't take me very long to discover that it was all about limiting the teacher hours and giving the student as many on-line automated software classes as possible - again, it all came down to money and not the student. Anyway, since this was all affecting kids I personally knew and cared about, I decided to educate the parents wi[...]



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: 6 China Teacher Job Recruiters Arrested Now Ratting On Clie
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: BIG problems with recruiters get China expat teachers arrest
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:01 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

This is some serious shit. I heard my principal talking today that 157 teachers have been arrested in Beijing during the last two weeks because of these recruiters now spilling the beans on their own teachers. I am so glad I went the legal route!



ESL in China [Only]... :: UK Students expose (NAME REMOVED) scam using fake China Jobs
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: UK Students expose (NAME REMOVED) scam using fake China Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:51 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

This post has been moderated UJ

Here are the links so I do not have to put the name of the company which is selling false career dreams with bait and switch recruiting methods that leave expats broke and at a dead end in China... https://www.tapatalk.com/topic/65081-the-student-room/4601750 (Name removed)

and here is another link from one of many victims found online: http://abroadreviews.com/psa-fraud-warning-avoid-laowai-career-center-scam-china-they-lie-cheat.

There is also a bunch of comments about them at Reddit at http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Uncensored China ESL & TEFL Blacklists Name 389 Cheaters
Author: Ms. Molly
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:41 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

These links the OP provides a great and quick way to know if your next job really is as good as the recruiter is telling you. Remember that these agents and recruiters make abut $500to $1,000 from you signature on a contract. So most will tell you anything to get your ass on a plane to China!



ESL in China [Only]... :: 6 China Teacher Job Recruiters Arrested Now Ratting On Clie
Author: Grumpy
Subject: 6 China Teacher Job Recruiters Arrested Now Ratting On Clie
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:31 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

If you or anyone you know used the black market services (diplomas, tefl certificates, or black visas) of these 6 recruiters, send them this link now before they are arrested. The PSB arrested 6 ESL/TEFL job recruiters who are now ratting out all their clients to avoid prison time and a 100,000 fine.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChinaScamCentral/comments/65m2z8/at_least_6_china_job_recruiters_are_now_snitching/?st=j1jw623o&sh=c6388cc0




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: 3 New Reddit subs expose TEFL & ESL frauds & scams
Author: Liza
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:19 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Now I will check these sites along with the CFTU blacklist and my CSP (China Scam Patrol) newsletter every month to keep from stepping in all the China job dog shit. You can always smell it, but is so hard to see. It's as if dogs in China poo the same shade of gray as the sidewalks! Thank you for the links.



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: 3 New Reddit subs expose TEFL & ESL frauds & scams
Author: Shannon
Subject: Xie Xie for the China ESL & TEFL Blacklists!
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:26 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Thanks DB. All three of these links gave me BIG surprises especially the job board scams.



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Urgent News 4 All China Foreign English TEFL & ESL Teach
Author: Shannon
Subject: The Most Dangerous Scam for English Teachers Abroad
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:23 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

PDA: This is MUCH more urgent and dangerous for ESL & TEFL teachers. See post Number 80 on page 9 here: https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST



New ESL Teachers... :: Which countries pay most for qualified ESL & TEFL teache
Author: Shannon
Subject: Which countries pay most for qualified ESL & TEFL teache
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:18 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

I don't believe recruiters anymore, so can some real experienced ESL & TEFL teachers weigh in here with the facts? Thanks.



ESL in Korea [Only]... :: New ESL & TEFL Blacklist is Updated Daily at Reddit
Author: Shannon
Subject: New ESL & TEFL Blacklist is Updated Daily at Reddit
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:09 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

PSA: Very much worth sharing with our colleagues. Spread the word:
http://reddit.com/r/tefl_esl_scams


These blacklists are bigger but only get updated every week or month:

http://eslwatch.info/forum
http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral
http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.org




Getting the ESL Job... :: PSA: ESL & TEFL TEACHERS -Stop Uploading Resumes! Scam A
Author: Shannon
Subject: PSA: ESL & TEFL TEACHERS -Stop Uploading Resumes! Scam A
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:01 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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See post number 80 on page 9 here: https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST




ESL in China [Only]... :: 3 New Reddit subs expose TEFL & ESL frauds & scams
Author: Dragonbreath
Subject: 3 New Reddit subs expose TEFL & ESL frauds & scams
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:49 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Two more current blacklists are grow at Reddit and one is just for China...

http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral

https://reddit.com/r/TEFL_ESL_SCAMS/

http://reddit.com/r/tefl_blacklist

This should be a game changer I think.




Getting the ESL Job... :: RE: No TEFL or TESOL Certificate REQUIRED in China -Stop The Lie
Author: Dragonbreath
Subject: CFTU is correct about the TEFL certificate not being REQUIRE
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:46 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

CFTU is correct. I called SAFEA's office in Beijng and a supervisor named Song told me these lies cause them to get over 100 emails every day from teachers asking about the "new requirements" and in reality they have had no TEFL certificate requirement for years! Theyare talking about this topi on Reddit right now. https://www.reddit.com/r/TEFL_ESL_SCAMS/



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Uncensored China ESL & TEFL Blacklists Name 389 Cheaters
Author: Dragonbreath
Subject: Thank you to China Scam Patrol
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:10 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

Thanks CSP - we really needed this. I read your blog last night. Very interesting. Why don't you guys write a weekly column on a major expat site? Expats need to see this shit. http://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Urgent News 4 All China Foreign English TEFL & ESL Teach
Author: .etc
Subject: Welcome to China ESL Teacher!
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:45 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Welcome to China - the land of 139 variety of noodles and endless scams. I found this at another forum and think it is worth sharing with you guys;

***** I was lured to China to teach and a few years ago and I have to admit there were a lot of things that the recruiters NEVER told me and when I asked certain questions, they changed the subject. After reading the post about the 10 ten lies of ESL recruiters in China, I decided to post these three links to save you all the aggravation and money I went through before I found a safe and genuine employer in China where I was not in danger of being deported. If I had seen these links I would have saved 6 months of my life and earned at least 20,000 rmb more. One of my employers even tried to extort me for 5,000 rmb to get my "release letter" which is needed when you want to upgrade your job. Anyway, this below is knowledge meant to be shared to reduce the number of expat scam victims in China. Now that I have an honest employer and no longer use shady agents, I am content in China except for the air pollution which is horrible during the winter months.

http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/300-china-job-scams-target-expat-foreign-esl-tefl-teachers-check-cftu-blacklists

http://reddit/r/chinascamcentral

https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST/ (Read page seven at this thread)

China is a fun place to work if you can avoid the scams and split-shift work schedules. *****




Getting the ESL Job... :: RE: Fraud Alert: Almost All China Internships Are Scams!
Author: Liza
Subject: China Internship scams
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:58 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Thanks for a great post. Here is a 2017 update: http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/china-internship-scam-alert-real-fortune-500-china-internships-are-always-free



Getting the ESL Job... :: RE: No TEFL or TESOL Certificate REQUIRED in China -Stop The Lie
Author: Liza
Subject: 2017 New law about China TEFL Certificate requirements
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:51 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Did you see the new law about TEFL certificate requirements for China foreign ESL & TEFL students? http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/foreign-english-esl-teachers-tricked-buying-tefl-certificate-courses-fake-china-requirement



ESL in China [Only]... :: Uncensored China ESL & TEFL Blacklists Name 389 Cheaters
Author: China.Scam.Patrol
Subject: Uncensored China ESL & TEFL Blacklists Name 389 Cheaters
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:41 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

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This website and others are legally compelled to censor names of employers, unlicensed schools, agents and recruiters that are "less than honest". But the below links name and shame the offenders without censorship. So before you take any new China job or even send your resume to anyone, check here first...

https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST

http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral

http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com

http://chinascamwatch.org

http://eslwatch.info/forum/china

Good luck in China but stay safe and secure from those wanting to exploit you.




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Reputation of (NAMES REMOVED) Scam or Legit?
Author: Ms. Molly
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:11 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

This company or rather these companies look to be huge and spend a fortune on advertising. I was called by both of them a few times in the last year but I enrolled at a TEFL program at a local university for only $200 so I did not spend any time talking with the UK sales reps.

But I was annoyed that they lept calling me a few times even after I told them I was already taking a TEFL program, and their last call was to sell me on a China teaching internship which made no sense to me. I mean it is so easy to get a real teaching job for at least 15,000 a month in China, why the hell would anyone want an internship that pays only 6,000 a month? Ridiculous!

I did dome searching on Yahoo however and found a string of complaints about these two companies going back to 2008. Here are just three of them;

http://www.teflspin.com/2008/07/volunteer-to-be-sucker.html

http://chinafraudpatrol.blogspot.tw/search?updated-max=2013-04-29T16:06:00-07:00&max-results=7

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/i-to-icom-and-onlineteflcom-fake-china-internships-worthless-tefl-certificates/internet/i-to-icom-and-onlineteflcom-fake-china-internships-worthless-tefl-certificates-i-to-i-1078645

As I read these complaints it seems they are mostly about misrepresentation and deceptions. Truthfully, I am glad I got my TEFL course from a real university that is over 100 years old.




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: TEFL Certificate STILL NOT REQUIRED To Teach ESL In China
Author: CFTU
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:53 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Thank you for posting this Shannon. Many people get confused or have misunderstandings after speaking with recruiters who are also collecting referral fees for TEFL course enrollments. http://chinafraudpatrol.blogspot.tw/2014/09/2014-china-foreign-teacher-tefl-tesol.html

We think a genuine TEFL course is a great idea for new ES:/TEFL teachers who never taught anything before coming to China, BUT we also think software study at home courses and online courses are not the way to go and are not very effective. Also. the certificates they issue are only recognized in a handful of third-world countries.

If you are already in China, you may want to check out the TEFL night programs at BFSU, Peking, and Renmin universities. SAFEA also offers a weekend program. If you are still abroad, the Trinity Celta program is the one most teachers have recommended to us and each other but the CFTU makes no official endorsement of any product or service.

Before taking any job in China however, we suggest you visit and read three websites to protect yourself from "problems".

http://chinascamwatch.org

http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral

http://eslwatch.info/forum/china
_________________
The CFTU is China's first and only private labor union representing the 25,000+ foreign teachers now working in China. Visit our website at www.ChinaForeignTeachersUnion.org for details and join our cause if you agree with it!




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Reputation of (NAMES REMOVED) Scam or Legit?
Author: St. George
Subject: Stirring it up
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:18 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

More Or Less,

Many companies have the same owners, as it is common practice to invest in companies with similar products. Did you know that Tesco owned Dobbies until quite recently; I wonder what scams they were running? Incidentally, Tesco is a British multinational grocery and general merchandise retailer and is the third largest in the world. Dobbies is a British chain of garden centres and one of the largest in the UK.

Methinks, you already know the answers to your questions and are just using the forum to stir it up, as usual!!!




ESL in China [Only]... :: Reputation of (NAMES REMOVED) Scam or Legit?
Author: More Or Less
Subject: Reputation of (NAMES REMOVED) Scam or Legit?
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:36 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

This post has been moderated UJ

I just found out that both of these companies are owned by the same company in the U.K.and was wondering why they sell the same TEFL products under two different names. It makes me suspicious. What do you guys know? Have you dealt with them before?




Getting the ESL Job... :: Teaching ESL & TEFL in China - Top 10 Lies You WILL Hear
Author: More Or Less Subject: Teaching ESL & TEFL in China - Top 10 Lies You WILL Hear Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:31 am (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 0 My colleague who has been teaching at a private international school in China for 2 years just sent this to me and it is so true... (I was wooed by over a dozen China job recruiters last year) For anyone even thinking about teaching in China, prepare for the following lies and then read the links at the bottom so your wallet will not go on a sudden diet... 1.) You MUST have a TEFL certificate to teach English in China. 2.) You do not need a Z visa to teach in China for your first 90 day probationary period 3.) Foreigners have no employee rights in China for one year after arrival 4.) You really don't need a university degree to teach English in China 5.) Everyone works 6 days a week 6.) Marketing & Sales is part of every China foreign teacher's job 7.) The air and water pollution is not as bad as they say. 8.) You will save at least $20,000 a year working in China 9.) You cannot get a good job in China without a recruiter like me and TEFL certificate 10.) Once you sign a contract you are stuck in that crappy job for at least a year and if you quit you will be blacklisted and have your visa revoked. Now here is the truth... http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/foreign-english-esl-teachers-tricked-buying-tefl-certificate-courses-fake-china-requirement http://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com http://chinascamwatch.org http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral http://www.chinascambusters.com P.S. But even more important than the lies, is what a China job recruiter will never ever tell you: https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST&p=1944475#post1944475[/code] . . . [...]



ESL in China [Only]... :: TEFL Certificate STILL NOT REQUIRED To Teach ESL In China
Author: Shannon
Subject: TEFL Certificate STILL NOT REQUIRED To Teach ESL In China
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:08 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

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After 3 months of people trying to sell me a TEFL certificate telling me that I cannot teach legally in China without one, I contacted SAFEA, in Shanghai and they told me that THERE IS NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT BY THE GOVERNMENT OF CHINA TO HAVE A TEFL CERTIFICATE TO TEACH IN CHINA.

I then found this online to see if anyone was actually telling the truth: https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?616386-China-Scam-Alert!-Fake-TEFL-amp-TESOL-Certificate-Requirement-Fraud-Targets-ESL-Teachers-Teach-In-China-Jobs

This company seems to be the one that keeps spreading the false information...

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/i-to-icom-and-onlineteflcom-fake-china-internships-worthless-tefl-certificates/internet/i-to-icom-and-onlineteflcom-fake-china-internships-worthless-tefl-certificates-i-to-i-1078645




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is (NAME REMOVED) in Beijing China Legit or Scam?
Author: Shannon
Subject: (NAME REMOVED) Testimonials& Reviews Are Fake
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:51 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 8

You guys are all wrong about (name removed) !!!!! I just read this testimonial from one of their many satisfied clients...

https://www.scam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18265&d=1488989202




ESL in China [Only]... :: Urgent News 4 All China Foreign English TEFL & ESL Teach
Author: Okay
Subject: Urgent News 4 All China Foreign English TEFL & ESL Teach
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:29 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

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Dear Colleagues,

My flatmate in Beijing just got swindled out of $5,000 and the coppers told her that over 500 English teachers in China are being ripped off every month by the same handful of scam artists. This is a really sneaky and sophisticated scam that even very intelligent peoplefall for. Before you apply for another job in China be sure to read this https://eslwatch.info/en/eslwatch-forum/china/801-beware-fake-job-ads-at-beijinger-eslcafe-echinacities/1368.html and pass it along to your circle of teacher friends.

Remember that China has no BBB nor FTC to help you get a refund. Once you get tricked, you are trapped and there is only one way to get a refund - go to visit a CCTV news reporter!




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is (NAME REMOVED) in Beijing China Legit or Scam?
Author: Okay
Subject: (NAME REMOVED) Job Ads Are Scam Traps!
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:18 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 8

This post has been moderated UJ

This guy got snookered pretty good by (name removed) - go ask him!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/61wni8/only_10_of_all_china_job_ads_you_see_online_are/




Getting the ESL Job... :: Scam Warning! Read B4 responding to ANY China teacher job ad
Author: Okay
Subject: Scam Warning! Read B4 responding to ANY China teacher job ad
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:46 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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This is really a serious fraud that will cost you at least $5,000 even if you do not accept the job. Over 500 intelligent teachers are tricked every month becuase they trust the place where they find the ad. https://eslwatch.info/en/eslwatch-forum/china/801-b/1368.html

My flatmate was just recently swindled with this really devious scam. You were warned.







ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is HAIDA HR in Hangzhou China legit or a scam ESL agency?
Author: Ms. Molly
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:59 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Thanks Shannon, my sister just sent me this link as well... https://www.reddit.com/r/ChinaJobs/comments/5uahi9/beware_of_hangzhou_helen_haida_and_her_china_tefl/

How to warn people about them?







ESL in China [Only]... :: Monkey Tree English School In Hong Kong - Legit or Scam?
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: Monkey Tree English School In Hong Kong - Legit or Scam?
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:30 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

Have any of you worked there before?. The pay is good but the housing costs are steep. Opinions?



ESL in China [Only]... :: China Internship Scams Are Many - Real Ones Are FREE!
Author: Liza
Subject: China Internship Scams Are Many - Real Ones Are FREE!
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:29 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

If you want to intern in China be aware you are already a target for fraud by companies like these that have hundreds of pop-up ads and google "adwords" ery working for them every day. (see below links to identify the fraudsters).

Never ever pay money for a China Internship since the REAL ones are free and you can apply yourself DIRECTLY with any Fortune 500 or MNC company operating in China in about 1 hour or less. Simply fax your resume, photo, and contact info to the HR department to ATTENTION: Intern Coordinator. Send your resume before April 15th if you are looking for a summer placement. They will provide you the required invitation letter you will need for a Z Visa.

These two links will keep you away from the many scams: http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/fake-gi2c-china-internship-testimonials-reviews-mislead-lure-scam-victims and http://freechinainternships.blogspot.co.uk. Also keep in mind that only about 5% of interns are ever hired for a full-time position in China.




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is (NAME REMOVED) in Beijing China Legit or Scam?
Author: Dragonbreath
Subject: This company cheats foreign ESL & TEFL Teachers in China
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:56 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 8

Two weeks ago, I actually met the owner if this company at Annie's Restaurant in Beijing - a Russian guy named Y***. He is the biggest braggart I met in China (so far at least) and when he was hitting on the waitress, I just figured he was drinking too much. But when I talked with him he seemed quite sober. He claimed he is personal friends with Vladimir Putin and that his dad was in the KGB! He also claims to have five Chinese GFs in different provinces and because his c**k was so big he could have as many as he wanted. He claims he was even offered a position playing professional footbal on the Russian team!

I have to admit that the Russian girl that was with him was pretty hot. He had a Ferrari key fob but the only car key on it was for a Toyota! Here is my mind's photo of the jerk;

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ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: 2017 Average China TEFL & ESL Teacher Salary Now 16,500
Author: unionjack
Subject: UK TAX
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:55 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Hi Okay

Thanks for using the forum.

A UK citizen does not have to pay tax on foreign income when they are living and working abroad, if their permanent home ('domicile') is abroad or indeed if they are not normally resident in the U.K. (They spend less than 90 days per year in the UK)

Cheers

UJ




ESL in China [Only]... :: 2017 Average China TEFL & ESL Teacher Salary Now 16,500
Author: Okay
Subject: 2017 Average China TEFL & ESL Teacher Salary Now 16,500
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:09 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

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This is about $3,000 per month, but don't forget this is the gross pay. If you are from America, Canada, or the UK, you will be taxed twice and net about $2,000 a month. Of course, some regions and employers pay more, but you really need to read this https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?715324-Real-salaries-pay-wages-and-earnings-hidden-from-China-ESL-amp-TEFL-Teacher-job-applicant

Korea, Japan,Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Singapore pay more than double and even triple but the cost of living is also higher. But everyone is not trying to cheat and skim you in Singapore, Japan, Taiwan, Korea, or Hong Kong.

Don't be misled or low-balled by the agents. They are disinformation specialists and will even try to convince you that 7,000 a month is "normal" salary in China. That is truly shit pay unless you come from Nigeria. Native English speakers do not earn less than 20,000 a month unless they are really dumb and gullible.

Also see: http://www.chinascambusters.com for more details







ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Which Schools Pay Best Salaries in China To TEFL Teachers?
Author: Ms. Molly
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:43 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

I just found this newspaper article online and it says that China ESL & TEFL teachers are the lowest paid expats in China! http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/epaper/2015-07/23/content_21388975.htm

Two days ago I saw my recruiter driving in Beijing in his new BMW while I am riding a $150 bicycle. I wonder how much money she made off of me?




ESL in China [Only]... :: Is HAIDA HR in Hangzhou China legit or a scam ESL agency?
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: Is HAIDA HR in Hangzhou China legit or a scam ESL agency?
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:09 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

I got a really strange but interesting call from a girl named Scarlet who apologized "for the delay in getting back to me", when in fact I never contacted her! But she offered me a 15,000 yuan job in Shandong and claims I don't need a Z visa nor a university diploma. Who are these people? Scarlet says the company is 10 years old and owned by the Chinese government. How can I verify this? Your feedback would be appreciated guys.



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: China foreign teachers cheated of wages get their pay quick!
Author: More Or Less
Subject: ESL teachers get last paycheck from China cheater employers
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:46 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Every ESL, TEFL, & AP teacher in China knows you have about a 10% chance of getting paid your last month’s paycheck or getting any “deposits” they made you pay when you decide to move on to a better job. In fact, a lot of these China employers will even try to extort teachers for money to get the required “release letter” the China labor law says they must provide for free. Although I retired from teaching last year to start my own business, this is how I always got every penny owed to me and it never failed me once... https://chinaforeignteachersunion.wordpress.com/



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Some bad news for China foreign ESL & TEFL Teachers
Author: Dragonbreath
Subject: China salaries for ESL & TEFL foreign teachers.
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:48 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

When it rains, it pours... http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/epaper/2015-07/23/content_21388975.htm



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is (NAME REMOVED) in Beijing China Legit or Scam?
Author: Grumpy
Subject: Why China job applicants need to avoid (NAME REMOVED)
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:03 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 8

No comments required. Just read... http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/record-number-foreign-expat-esl-tefl-teachers-lose-china-jobs-after-being-arrested-deported

Now read this great testimonial from a (NAME REMOVED) client;

https://scam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18265&d=1488989202

(image) China... a little bit of heaven and hell in just one place!




ESL Jobs From Home... :: RE: Online teaching
Author: St. George
Subject: Typos?
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:49 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 31

There are several typos {打字(或排印)错误} in your post or is this proof that you are not a native speaker



ESL in China [Only]... :: How China Expat ESL TEFL & AP Teachers Avoid Identity Th
Author: CFTU Subject: How China Expat ESL TEFL & AP Teachers Avoid Identity Th Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:10 am (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 0 This post has been moderated. UJ First, the bad news... About 35% of all the online ads for ESL, TEFL, & AP teaching jobs in China were posted by more than 3,000 known identity thieves. The dream jobs are fake and they only want your resume a,d then after a fake skype interview - your passport scan. Then after you accept their fake job offer they will ask for your "Taxpayer Identification Number" (aka social security or national ID number). Because you think you are about to get a $40,000 or even $60,000 job teaching in China, you do not hesitate. And then you get the bad news that particular job was filled. But they offer you another China job at half the pay scale. Whether you take Job B or not, you may have just been victimized for identity theft that you won't even know about for 3-6 more months, when the police come to arrest you. Of course you will sort it all out and they will apologize after you spend a few nights in jail and your family spends $5,000 to hire a lawyer for you. In 2016, over 1,600 expats working in China learned a very expensive and embarassing lesson about sending their resumes to strangers. https://chinascamwatch.wordpress.com. Now the good news... you can prevent all of this and eliminate the risk that you will also be a victim, even if you are already a target. 1.) Never give your full name on your first resume. For example if you are Patrick Steven Walker. Your resume should say: P. Steven Walk. 2.) Never include your personal home address or telephone number on a resume which can reveal your true identity. Use your email and mobile number for contact. 3.) Edit your Skyp profile so it does not contain specific information. 4.) Do not ever send passport scans unless and until you have a VERIFIABLE written job offer from a known employer whose website provides a phone number for you verify. Do not trust phone numbers given to you by recruiters nor agents as the numbers could simply belong to one of their friends (shills) who will pretend to be an HR Director or FAO of a China employer. Then provide your passport scan directly by fax or email to ONLY the direct employer - not to agents and recruiters. 5.) You need not ever disclose your social security number or national ID card to any employer in China. You must provide them a photo and your passport Number. Of course your China job agent and recruiter will tell you to ignore all this advice and the CFTU and maybe even call us a troll or "troublemaker". We care about your safety in China - not what agents and recruiters think about us. Here are some links you can give them to shut them up... https[...]



ESL Jobs From Home... :: RE: Part-time Job Teaching English Online
Author: St. George
Subject: North American native speaker
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:25 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Kayotts, you are not a native speaker and there is a good possibility that you are not North American and not even based there. Therefore, how did you get a job with VipKid?



ESL Jobs From Home... :: Part-time Job Teaching English Online
Author: kayotts
Subject: Part-time Job Teaching English Online
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:31 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Hey all - For the past few months, I've been teaching with VIPKID. It's been a great experience teaching Chinese kids English one-on-one. I get paid $20 per hour plus there are great incentives. If your interested, you have to a native North American speaker and willing to teach their curriculum. Check it out here: https://t.vipkid.com.cn/?refereeId=2558676

Happy Teaching!
Karen




ESL Jobs From Home... :: RE: Online teaching
Author: kayotts
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:31 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 31

I'm teacher English online to Chinese kids and have a great experience.