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ESL in China [Only]... :: Anyone have feedback on (school name removed)
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: Anyone have feedback on (school name removed)
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:12 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

This post has been moderated UJ

If anyone has worked there please share the 411 on them as I was offered a job with a decent pay package but they say they don't have to give me a z visa and that does not violate "China's new visa laws". Is this true/ The place looks clean and professional but the other foreign teachers say they can only talk with me after I sign my contract which I thought was a little strange. Also why are they using 2 different names to do the same school? (Names removed) Can someone please enlighten me because they have me until next Monday to accept their offer in Beijing, China. Thanks in advance for your help friends.

Please contact the poster for further details




New ESL Teachers... :: RE: ESL now, or after law school?
Author: Gilbert_74
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:22 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 4

Post deleted! Advertising is not allowed on the forum UJ

See the following posts

http://www.esl-jobs-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=15513&highlight=#15513




ESL in China [Only]... :: X2 Student Visa / Multiple Entries
Author: AdilMia23
Subject: X2 Student Visa / Multiple Entries
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:01 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

Hello, could anyone provide me with information on how to add more entries to my already existing single entry X2 student visa?



New ESL Teachers... :: RE: YOU'LL BE THANKING ROLF FOR THIS
Author: unionjack
Subject: Back scratching
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:07 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

There is a solution, however. You may place a link to your website in the Links to Your Website section providing you place a reciprocal link on your site back to the ESL-Jobs-Forum site.

Mutual back scratching is great, why not give it a try?

Note, this thread will be seriously moderated. Any posts that do not follow the posted guidelines will be deleted. Abusers of this gesture of good faith will be banned from the forum. Let's please keep the links ESL, English, Teaching, Travel or at least related to Education. Totally unrelated links will not be considered and links to sites of a pornographic nature or online gambling are absolutely forbidden.




New ESL Teachers... :: YOU'LL BE THANKING ROLF FOR THIS
Author: mfcfan20
Subject: YOU'LL BE THANKING ROLF FOR THIS
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:59 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Post deleted. Advertising is not allowed on the forum

See the following post. UJ




New ESL Teachers... :: RE: ESL now, or after law school?
Author: mfcfan20
Subject: NOW
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:58 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 4

Do it now while you can



ESL to Young Learners... :: RE: Kids education?
Author: guduvisic
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:32 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

HI!
You can go through tutorials point. They can help you a lot.
Thanks
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Top childrens daycare




New ESL Teachers... :: RE: E2 visa question for South Korea
Author: unionjack
Subject: EPIK Native Speaker
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:26 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Hello daniel_russian

Welcome to the forum

I can't see anything that would barr you from obtaining an E2 visa.

Nevertheless, there is always the possibility that somewhere down the line, someone will ask the question and unless you have the evidence, then you will be in trouble. The only way forward, would be to obtain a degree in English and a teaching certificate and you don't have to be a native speaker but is it worth it, just to teach Conversational English.

Incidentally, do you consider yourself a native speaker?

UJ




ESL to Young Learners... :: Kids Education
Author: esau05
Subject: Kids Education
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:41 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

Hi!
For toddler programs daycare article once you should contact to the play schools. You will get an idea about what to write.
thank you




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: STUDENT VISA / CANCELLING CONTRACT WITH AGENCY / HELP!!!!!
Author: unionjack
Subject: RESIGNATION
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:16 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Welcome to the forum.

It appears you are on a sticky wicket!

On a student visa, you are not allowed to work full time and this is what you appear to be doing. If this is the case both you and the Agency are breaking the law. Therefore, if you do anything to upset this Agency, they can report you. They may not do it directly, so as not to implicate themselves but surreptitiously. If you report them, you will get into trouble also, so there is no way out. You will just have to stick it out until the contract expires.

If your residency permit runs out at the same time as your visa, then you will have to renew your visa to remain resident. If they then cancel your new visa because you have resigned you will still be resident and then you can apply to the school for a new contract. They would have to go through the same scenario to get you a Z visa. There are so many ifs and buts that it is impossible to see where it will end.

Best of luck...

UJ




ESL in China [Only]... :: STUDENT VISA / CANCELLING CONTRACT WITH AGENCY / HELP!!!!!
Author: AdilMia23
Subject: STUDENT VISA / CANCELLING CONTRACT WITH AGENCY / HELP!!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:50 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Hi,
I am currently in my first year of teaching in China and I like many others came over using an agency.
In my contract it stated that they would supply me with a work visa and I would just have to pay for the visa run, however upon arriving they told me that I have to get a student visa instead and I still would have to pay for the visa run (which ended up being 3500 rmb). I was ok with that as I thought the agency would actually get a work visa for me.

I am now currently on my last month of the student visa and they informed that they cannot get a work visa for me and I would have to get another student visa. My school that I am at currently have been very supportive and want me to cancel the contract with the agency, however I am afraid that once I cancel the contract the agency will cancel my student visa and I'll be left stranded.

Can someone advise what to do please?




New ESL Teachers... :: E2 visa question for South Korea
Author: daniel_russian
Subject: E2 visa question for South Korea
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:53 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Guys, I am not sure this is the right place for this post, but I am just desperate to get an answer. I've been doing research on what "native" english speaking person means according to the standards of this visa.

I have a four year university degree from university of Toronto majoring in Psychology. I lived in Canada for the last 19 years, I am 37 now. I lived in Russia from ages 0-10 (born there) and lived in Israel from 10-18. So I finished high school in Israel where the primary language of instruction was Hebrew.

I will soon have a reliable TESOL/CELTA/Trinity TESOL under my sleeve with 100 hours of theory and about 20 hours of practicum with actual ESL students. In any case, it will be a well known TESOL/TEFL certification. Combined with a four year degree from an accredited Canadian university plus a Canadian passport, I should have a good shot at teaching english in Korea. I also taught english in France in 2005 for 7 months after graduation.

I know EPIK program defines "native" as someone who studied in english speaking environment since Grade 7. I dont have that. I would hate to think that this stupid grade 7 standard means teaching english in Korea is forever inaccessible to me.

My questions are:

1. Just because EPIK has this grade 7 standard, does that mean E2 visa has the same standard? Because I didnt see that on the Korean government site.
2. Do all public schools in Korea follow EPIK standards for visa?
3. Do all public schools in Korea fall under the EPIK umbrella? If not, what percentage of public schools does not? Just how much does EPIK dominate the public schools market?
4. What about private schools? Do they also follow the grade 7 definition of "native" english speaker, or do they set out their own rules?
5. Realistically, if I am not eligible for EPIK, are my chances better with private of public schools?

Thanks a lot, appreciate your input,
Daniel.




Discrimination Issues in ESL... :: RE: Jamaicans Teaching in Singapore,Japan or South Korea?
Author: sanawar
Subject: DELETED
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:24 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 8

post deleted: advertising is not allowed on the forum UJ



New ESL Teachers... :: RE: post deleted
Author: sanawar
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:23 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Yes this post helpful for me.



ESL Academic Degrees... :: RE: Graduate degree in Applied Linguistics or TESOL? Opinions?
Author: sanawar
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:22 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

I think its all depend upon your interest. Because while selecting career interest is very necessary to get success in it. At the same time hard work as welll.



ESL in China [Only]... :: Official qualifications required for China foreign teachers
Author: Grumpy
Subject: Official qualifications required for China foreign teachers
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:35 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

2017 Update of China foreign teacher requirements are now 6 and none of them require a TEFL Certificate. Read for yourself: http://opnlttr.com/letter/new-2017-2018-china-foreign-teacher-requirements-safea-teaching-tefl-esl-china

Keep in mind these are the requirements to teach LEGALLY in China. Many recruiters will hide these requirements from you and trick you into working illegally. For more info and details, please see http://reddit.com/r/chinatefl and http://reddit.com/r/chinateachers.

It is also interesting to note that unless you have a post-graduate degree, foreign English teachers are no longer considered to be "experts" in China.




New ESL Teachers... :: RE: Which countries pay most for qualified ESL & TEFL teache
Author: Meilinlian
Subject: Which country pays more ESL & TEFL teacher
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:32 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

From my experience, China pays more than another country for ESL & TEFL.Because since last two years I am doing a job in "Teach In China" as an English teacher.They pay me a good package of salary according to my job role.



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: TEFL Teacher Feedback on NAME REMOVED - Beijing?
Author: unionjack
Subject: Scams
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:53 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Surely Okay,

After 63 posts, you should know, by now, where to check for legit or scam companies???

I'll give you a clue; it isn't here...

Having said that, the previous post in this section, lists all the sites. Just click on the links...

Shannon says there's simply no excuse for you to get cheated as a teacher in China, unless you are too lazy to check out the these links!

Cheers

UJ




ESL in China [Only]... :: TEFL Teacher Feedback on NAME REMOVED - Beijing?
Author: Okay
Subject: TEFL Teacher Feedback on NAME REMOVED - Beijing?
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:41 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

This post has been moderated UJ

Have any of you guys worked for this company? What is the 411 on them - legis or scam. They have a pretty big office with about 20 people working in it at Zhingguancun in Beijing. They offered me what appears to be a good job. What fo you guys know? Thanks for your help.- much appreciated.




ESL in China [Only]... :: 2017 China School & Recruiter Blacklist from the CTA
Author: Shannon
Subject: 2017 China School & Recruiter Blacklist from the CTA
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:11 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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The old China Teachers Alliance is still alive and kicking and just put out a valuable blacklist for TEFL & ESL teachers planning to move to or already teaching in China: https://www.slideshare.net/LaowaiCareerCenter/cta-2017-china-scam-blacklist-for-tefl-teachers

Other helpful sites I found are:

http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral

http://chinascamwatch.org

http://reddit.com/r/eslscams

http://www.chinascambusters.com

https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST

Now there simply no excuse for you to get cheated as a teacher in China, unless you are too lazy to check out the above links!




ESL to Young Learners... :: RE: Teaching ESL to Kindergarten in China
Author: rept12
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:27 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 13

I have been a teacher in a kindergarten from last year in Calgary, Whenever I play with children's I really enjoyed and I teach him so many things.
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kids day care




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: NAMES REMOVED - Scam - Petition To Justice Minister
Author: Dragonbreath
Subject: This Scam Queen Of China is TEFL Teacher Enemy No. 1
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:44 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

This post has been moderated UJ

Sadly, we are not allowed to name cheaters on this forum so I will just tell you all that the biggest scam artisit in TEFL history is now the talk of Reddit and Scam.com and teachers are organizing Chinese mothers to get her arrested and jailed again. She now operates 13 different alias companies and YOU need to know them before you become one of her victims too;
click here
Names removed
If you follow her history you will see that her methods of recruiting illegal teachers got over 1,200 foreign teachers in China arrested and deported as explained here and many posts at realscam.com click here
Names removed

If you are still not convinced about this rotten apple...search here http://www.realscam.com/f51/ As soon as the new petition to the Education Minister is launched I will return to put a link.




ESL in Western Europe :: RE: Portugal ESL for September
Author: Peter Dias
Subject: Re: Portugal ESL for September
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:19 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

Peter Dias wrote:
sarahm wrote:
My name is Sarah and I'm from Ontario, Canada. My first language is English, but I am fluent in Portuguese. I'm hoping to find a job in Portugal for September start. I'm expecting to have my Portuguese citizenship and EU passport in order in August. I have limited experience in tutoring English, but I do have an Honours degree in English.

I am wondering what my chances are for obtaining a year contract in Portugal in September.

it's very difficult to find good job quickly

I think you should try to find with job search engines like Adzuna or Jooble




Say Anything... :: RE: Read this at your own risk... (Painful Truth)
Author: St. George
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:17 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Hello Reilly

I've read your other posts and it appears that you think that always obeying the law is the right thing to do. Is there an instance, in your opinion, when breaking the law is justified?

Here is a case in point. My mother died and an incorrect name was registered against the plot of land in which she was buried. Later, a birth and death certificate were submitted as evidence that the registered name was incorrect and although this was accepted as proof, it is the law that the first name submitted must be retained and therefore, cannot be changed. We don't know who made the original mistake but to correct the name would be breaking the law.

If the registrar were to correct the name, he would be breaking the law but he has seen the evidence and knows that to do so would be the correct course to take. I can guess what you would do but I would take the common sense approach and change it.

As you know, the law can be an ass!

St. G




ESL in China [Only]... :: Seriously Foreign ESL & TEFL Teachers - WTF?
Author: CFTU
Subject: Seriously Foreign ESL & TEFL Teachers - WTF?
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:48 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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Is there any good reasons any of you still need to use a TEFL job recruiter and run the risk of being skimmed, scammed, or having your identity stolen? In our 2016 annual teacher survey, 76% of the teachers who said they used a recruiter said they encountered one of these three problems and 84% said they were "disappointed" and "unsatisfied" with their first job placement. 88% said they did better on their own with their second job!

Here is a gift for all of you... 320 employer contacts in China so you can go the DIY route and avoid a lot of grief, wasted time, and "disappointment". We want your China adventure to be a happy one and with this link YOU can select your employer and not vice versa (assuming you are legally qualified to teach in China).

https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/08/25/cftu2017-1/

Please do not contact any employer if you do not have a genuine bachelor degree from an accredited universiity, 2 years teaching experience, or you have a felony conviction. China is very strict right now with a zero tolerance policy and you will be discovered, arrested, jailed, and deported if you are caught working illegally. See http://reddit.com/r/teflscams

The password for the file is CFTU2017 (Case Sensitive) Good luck and welcome to China!
_________________
The CFTU is China's first and only private labor union representing the 25,000+ foreign teachers now working in China. Visit our website at www.ChinaForeignTeachersUnion.org for details and join our cause if you agree with it!




Open ESL Expert Discussion... :: RE: Dave's ESL Cafe- Never Again!
Author: CFTU
Subject: Very well said - we agree 100% about eslcafe.
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:32 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

We agree with you fully about the blog bullies at ESLCafe and the sad part is that most of them are paid staff bloggers or are irl... tefl teacher recruiters who use the forum as their own personal fishing grounds.

The biggest problem found there is that they constantly delete and ban people who insist that working without a Z visa and a real university degree in China is against the law and will get you arrested and deported as confirmed last April when over 1,200 expat teachers were thrown in jail. See http://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com.

Also if you search eslcafe at reddit.com you will see pretty much that veteran ESL and TEFL teachers avoid them like the plague. I regret that I did not see your post earlier as people need to avoid that website unless they are totally submissive with no opinions that might anger the gods, er the mods that rule there with an iron fist. Without exaggeration, they probably ban about 50 users ever week who dare to disagree with the top ten recruiters who have been there for years.
_________________
The CFTU is China's first and only private labor union representing the 25,000+ foreign teachers now working in China. Visit our website at www.ChinaForeignTeachersUnion.org for details and join our cause if you agree with it!




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Fake Diplomas & TEFL Certificates in China = Deportation
Author: Reilly
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:34 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 5

Quote:
"Still the recruiters continue to hide the truth about Chinese law, and then after the newbie teachers get to China and learn the truth, they are scared into buying fake diplomas and TEFL certificates"


No sympathy. It takes only a few minutes on Google to look up Chinese law about teaching in China and what you need to have. Maybe one quick phone call to the nearest Chinese Embassy...and there you are.

Did these people not do ANY research? It's 2017 not 1720. The information is out there and widely available. They were fully complicit.

I don't think there is any excuse anymore. You are going to move to the other side of the world...do SOME research on your own and see what you are getting into. Scared or not, they knew they were breaking the law when they purchased these fake papers.

As far as I am concerned...it's long overdue. As for these people...I've said it before and I will say it again. If one has mismanaged their life so badly that their only/best resort is to use fraud to obtain employment in another country, then they deserve any penalty that they get. As for the recruiters, they should serve a jail term that corresponds to the length of the teacher's ban. Banned for five years? Then the recruiter serves HIS five years, in a Chinese jail.




Say Anything... :: RE: Read this at your own risk... (Painful Truth)
Author: Reilly
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:25 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Quote:
"After you read this ask yourself this, as teachers do we limit our educational assistance to only language or do we at least warn others not run with scissors or eat juicy looking apples found in strange places?"


As teachers we should do the job we were hired to do and not push our personal agendas onto the students under the guise of teaching. Not exactly a radical concept....or IS it?

I rather doubt your students are going to know or care and that's if they have the language skills to understand your point to begin with. I'd be careful with that if I were you. Questioning the news can be construed as challenging the national narrative in some countries




ESL Certification Issues... :: RE: Have you ever forged documents?
Author: Reilly
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:09 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 4

Here is the link to the quote in my first post...couldn't post it there.



https://forgery.uslegal.com/punishments-for-forgery/




ESL Certification Issues... :: RE: Have you ever forged documents?
Author: Reilly
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:08 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 4

Just browsing this forum and came across this thread. I do realize that it is several years old, however it is still on the first page so I would just like to offer a differing view point to the last poster...also to others who may be considering forging documents.


First of all, forging documents is a crime. It is a felony as opposed to a simple misdemeanor.


" Forgery is the act of criminally making or altering a written instrument for the purpose of fraud or deceit. In the U.S., depending on the type of documents forged, forgeries are primarily classified in three degrees: first degree, second degree, and third degree. The first two degrees are felonies and the third degree amounts to a misdemeanor. The first degree forgery involves the actual presentation or use of any falsely made, altered or possessed document with the intent to deceive or defraud"



Secondly the claim that the boss is playing by a different set of rules is wholly irrelevant. The claim that "Well he did it, so why can't I?" has never been considered a valid defense in court.
We are all independent grown adults with 100% responsibility for our own actions. Let me ask you. If the boss ingested illegal drugs, would you? If the boss cheated on his wife, would you? If the boss beat his children would you?

Why then would you follow his conduct in any other areas?

Bottom line. If one has messed up his life to the point where committing forgery to work in another country is their only/best option...then it is likely they have far more serious personal issues to deal with than finding a place to work.

Harsh advice? Yes. Unduly harsh? No. I would suggest that it is in any case preferable to getting caught with forged documents and facing jail time with fines and deportation in the future.




Getting the ESL Job... :: Free VPN for ESL Teachers in China or on their way!
Author: CFTU
Subject: Free VPN for ESL Teachers in China or on their way!
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:05 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

Without a VPN in China you cannot access your Facebook, Twitter, New York Times, YouTube, HBO, or your favorite TV shows. As a special promo you can get a $60 VPN for free just by sending an email as explained here https://www.scam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19144&d=1503462660

But before you go... here is tip that can save you at least $5,000... NEVER ever upload your resume to any website for a teaching job and this will show you why not. http://chinascamwatch.wordpress.com. Over 6,000 foreign teachers get burned by this innocent looking scam every year.

Bon voyage wherever your teaching career may take you!
_________________
The CFTU is China's first and only private labor union representing the 25,000+ foreign teachers now working in China. Visit our website at www.ChinaForeignTeachersUnion.org for details and join our cause if you agree with it!




Getting the ESL Job... :: ESL Scam Warning: Reddit Mod Frauds - Teacher Predators!
Author: Regretfully Yours
Subject: ESL Scam Warning: Reddit Mod Frauds - Teacher Predators!
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:06 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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If you get a PM at Reddit from a user offering friendly or helpful advice - ignore it. 3 TEFL & ESL teacher recruiters were just caught moonlighting as moderators at Reddit deleting factual posts that were not helpful to their sales. This explains the whole story: https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?739459-Even-More-Reddit-Moderator-Fraud-Helping-TEFL-Job-Scammers-cheat-teachers&p=1973744&posted=1#post1973744

Be aware this does not mean all of Reddit is corrupted. the problem has been located in only 5 subs so far. and a new TEFL sub where censorship is not allowed was opened at http://reddit.com/r/teflscams

Good luck and safe travels!




Getting the ESL Job... :: 3 China Teacher Recruiters Using Fake Facebook Referrals!
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: 3 China Teacher Recruiters Using Fake Facebook Referrals!
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:34 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

This post has been moderated UJ

Maybe more are doing it too but the ones that were caught are listed here and I think this should be a wake-up call to all of us to always be on guard when looking for a new teaching job - especially overseas!
Click HERE for further details. This reminds me so much of the YELP! fiasco in 2015. The internet no longer has any credibility IMO when it comes to job searches'.

https://scam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19060&d=1502504365.jpg




ESL in China [Only]... :: Beware - Top 20 China Job Scams To Avoid Published By CSP
Author: Grumpy
Subject: Beware - Top 20 China Job Scams To Avoid Published By CSP
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:08 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

This post has been moderated UJ

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According to their report 47% of all Cihne foreign teachers get swindled at least once by their own agent or employer. These 20 companies are doing 90% of the cheating. The average loss is $5,700 so pay attention and keep a print-out of this list pasted near your computer screen as a reminder. What is truly incredible is that just 7 people own these 20 different companies! https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?739437-China-s-Top-20-Job-Frauds-include-Names-removed




ESL in China [Only]... :: China Police Now Verifying Diplomas Of All Foreign Teachers
Author: China.Scam.Patrol
Subject: China Police Now Verifying Diplomas Of All Foreign Teachers
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:18 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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In their biggest crackdown ever on fake foreign teachers, the Chinese Public Security Bureau has now begun to verify the university diplomas of every incoming foreign teacher as well as those already employed in China. They subcontracted an American company to handle the daunting and tedious task to validate the educational credentials of 30,000 plus foreign teachers working in China every year.

At present SAFEA, the government agency responsible for issuing Foreign Expert Permits has leaked that 1 in every 3 foreign teachers working in China today are not genuine teachers and have a teaching background or even a university degree.That is 10,000 teacher impostors. When Chinese parents learned of this they were outraged and demanded government action.

Details of what resulted can be found here: https://eslwatch.info/en/eslwatch-forum/china/953-chinese-government-now-verifying-every-diploma-of-china-foreign-teachers-ouch.html

So we hereby warn everyone that the old days of lax and selective enforcement of China's visa and false document laws are now long gone. Please get yourself legal, go teachi in Vietnam or Cambodia, or plan for the worst come September. Over 1,000 fake teachers have been arrested in the last three months alone which broke previous arrests for any 3 month period by 68%. Here is a list of those arrested: https://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com/2017/05/26/329-china-foreign-teachers-arrested-for-using-fake-tefl-certificates-in-april-of-2017/




Say Anything... :: Scam: SCHOOL NAME REMOVED (Warning ESL Teachers)
Author: ESLTeacherAdventurer Subject: Scam: SCHOOL NAME REMOVED (Warning ESL Teachers) Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:24 pm (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 0 This post has been moderated UJ Good Afternoon Everyone, I have just finished a stint in Konya, Turkey teaching at a Private institution that has had trouble keeping their Native English Teaching Staff (NETS) from fleeing. Now, I googled the school and found 1 review, I remember either the ESLForum or reddit...not sure. anyway, I thought...not enough people have taught here, let me give it a try. These are the RED FLAGS. The school is literally a house with 3 classrooms. Teachers sleep upstairs like they are caretakers of the school. There is a telephone in your room ... to ensure you are always available. You have 1 Day off - it is a 6 Day week. You can work up to 10.5 hours in one day The manager of the school is dodgy and will drag out your visa process for months. And then one day you will find out you are actually working illegally. He is a scam artist of note. They will keep all of your original documents: PASSPORT ...everything under lock and key in a safe. When you leave, you need to beg for your documents There is one other teacher and this man is CLEARLY...very clearly a criminal/predator/pervert of some kind. You just get a bad hit from him. He has taught for 2 years and because he is over 65 years old so he is not about to leave. He says the strangest things to students...to children and it is very disturbing and uncomfortable and you have to wonder if this school actually vets its teachers. He has prison tattoos and every female teacher who has worked before me basically fled - the common denominator is this teacher. I have spent 5 months here, read the situation and my conclusion is that he is a predator and because they cannot get new teachers to stick around for more than 5 months, they tolerate him. There is a silent consensus - as long as nothing happens...and there are cameras in each classroom - then he can remain teaching. It's sick on soo many levels. Please teachers, for your own safety and if you must teach in Konya, I suggest either teaching at a public school in Konya or you can even take a chance at teaching at Wall Street. Do not try your luck here. You could even wind up being deported. Steer clear of : Name removed Please contact the poster for further details UJ [...]



ESL in China [Only]... :: China's PSB now electronically monitors all foreigners 24/7
Author: CFTU Subject: China's PSB now electronically monitors all foreigners 24/7 Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:35 am (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 0 If you are thinking of doing anything illegal in China stop and read this. All you discuss by telephone, email, weixin, and text is scanned by PSB computers looking for key buzz words about fake documents and slang words for drugs. http://www.thebeijinger.com/blog/2017/07/24/my-advice-walk-eggshells-and-avoid-trouble-altogether-pair-deported-foreigners-share#comment-547487 This was a follow-up comment at Reddit: The OP link is self-explanatory relating to the arrests of a Canadian and his friend. You also need to be very aware of these sting operations: http://opnlttr.com/letter/china-visa-police-using-clever-sting-fake-job-ads-arrest-hundreds-foreign-esl-tefl-teachers Lastly, Contrary to what most people believe, you do not need a VPN to access Google in China. There is a trick that IT people know how to access Google indirectly without being detected nor blocked unless you do a search for the New York Times or Epoch Times. We will share this trick with you by PM if you subscribe to this sub as well as r/chinatefl, r/chinascamcentral, r/tefl_tips_traps_scams, and r/chinateachers. The connection secret is free, works 100% of the time but your first connection will take about 2 minutes. Afterward, it will be quicker than any VPN. After you subscribe, contact us with a short message by PM. Until then stay safe and remember... what you read in the OP is dead serious friends. _________________The CFTU is China's first and only private labor union representing the 25,000+ foreign teachers now working in China. Visit our website at www.ChinaForeignTeachersUnion.org for details and join our cause if you agree with it! [...]



ESL in China [Only]... :: Order IELTS ,TOEFL,DIPLOMAS,TOEFL,IELTS ,TOEIC
Author: More Or Less
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:48 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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WARNING: Be aware that China's new "FALSE DOCUMENTS LAW" is being vigorously enforced in the last six months and in May alone, over, 1,000 foreign teachers in China were arrested, jailed for 30 days, paid a $2,000 fine, and then deported with a criminal record. Read here: https://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com/2017/05/26/329-china-foreign-teachers-arrested-for-using-fake-tefl-certificates-in-april-of-2017/

Also be aware of the many stings being used b the Chinese police to find fake teachers... http://opnlttr.com/letter/china-visa-police-using-clever-sting-fake-job-ads-arrest-hundreds-foreign-esl-tefl-teachers




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: NAMES REMOVED - Scam - Petition To Justice Minister
Author: More Or Less
Subject: Can you believe this China Job Scammer was released from pri
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:38 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

This Chinese woman job recruiter got arrested again last week and agreed to avoid more prison time by giving the Chines epolice her enter client list of foreign fake teachers working with fake university degrees and TEFL certificates she herself sold them! See the details at http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral.



ESL in Africa & S.W. Asia [Middle East]... :: RE: Education Experts is making its move
Author: aardvark
Subject: Still in KSA
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:02 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 18

Hi SG. It's nice to hear from you.
I went back to Qassim 2 years ago (seems more like 5). I stayed with the company (since I'm a private contractor) and then the Dept. Chair left Qassim in a hurry. He found out that a new dean was going to run the place. Then I found out why the dept. chair left in a hurry. The dean mandated a new IELTS training program and he coddled the students who had complaints.

Well, the students rebelled against the IELTS program and it was shut down. I never got used to the spoiled attitudes of students so I made a switch to IPA in Riyadh. Small towns never do it for me.

I'm busy selling my stuff and doing another work visa application back in the states. I spend my free time visiting Eastern & Central Europe.




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Fake Diplomas & TEFL Certificates in China = Deportation
Author: Liza
Subject: UPDATE: About 10,000 China TEFL Teachers Now To Be Arrested
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:55 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 5

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After the recent arrests of Brett V.Z. and Rosie T. for selling fake diplomas and TEFL certificates, the pair agreed to cooperate fully with the authorities and turned over their hard drives and mobile phones to the cops to be copied. On the CCTV news, the police spokesman said they will now find and arrest all of the teachers who bought the fake documents and said there were "more than 10,000" going back to 2015. https://www.reddit.com/r/TEFL_TIPS_TRAPS_SCAMS/comments/6nq0iy/bv_zeller_and_rosie_tang_arrested_again_in_psb/

Heres the names of the last 329 arrested; https://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com/2017/05/26/329-china-foreign-teachers-arrested-for-using-fake-tefl-certificates-in-april-of-2017/




ESL in China [Only]... :: Urgent China TEFL Job Scam Alert - REMOVED
Author: CFTU
Subject: Urgent China TEFL Job Scam Alert - REMOVED
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:10 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

This post has been moderated UJ

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SInce we were advised not to mention names here for fear of potential lawsuits we will just give you this link and tell you this is HUGE NEWS that will shock many of you. A China Job Agency with a previously decent reputation was just bought out by China's biggest scam artist who caused over 1,200 expat teachers to be arrested and deported from China because she assured them that it was "just fine" to work in China without a Z visa. As you all know that is not true. YOU MUST HAVE A Z VISA AND A REAL UNIVERSITY DEGREE TO WORK IN CHINA. Anyway, it is important that you read this http://www.realscam.com/blogs/seattle/947-fraud-warning-removed-china-job-scam-beijing-now-owned-ceo-names-removed.html and pass it along to all of your teacher friends and colleagues without delay. They now have a huge ad campaign underway to recruit for the fall semester, and they WILL skim your salary aside from making you work with an illegal contract that is all explained at http://reddit.com/chinascamcentral. Stay safe teachers and enjoy your summer vacation! - Gregg, Denise and the CFTU staff.
_________________
The CFTU is China's first and only private labor union representing the 25,000+ foreign teachers now working in China. Visit our website at www.ChinaForeignTeachersUnion.org for details and join our cause if you agree with it!




ESL in Africa & S.W. Asia [Middle East]... :: RE: Education Experts is making its move
Author: St. George
Subject: Visa costs
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:16 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 18

Hey aardvark,

Still hammering away? Haven't heard from you in years!

I take it that you have settled down and now you are at peace with yourself and the world! It took me 3 years but then I was like a zombie after that. Are there any others with whom you can have a real conversation? Do you have any hobbies or do you just stare into the desert? I worked with a guy who imagined, he was sitting in a garden full of flowers but my imagination was never able to stretch that far.

Better say something about the topic before I get deleted. I think Jesica means it is too much to pay in the land of bribes, I wonder what's the going rate to get a job...

Take care!




ESL in Africa & S.W. Asia [Middle East]... :: RE: Education Experts is making its move
Author: aardvark
Subject: Do not pay for visa upfront
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:51 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 18

Only an idiot would pay a company for a visa. It is the company's obligation.



ESL in Africa & S.W. Asia [Middle East]... :: RE: Education Experts is making its move
Author: Anonymous
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:35 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 18

£800... is enough amount I think ..



Training for ESL Teachers... :: Scam- Proofing 101 For China ESL & TEFL Teachers
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: Scam- Proofing 101 For China ESL & TEFL Teachers
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:52 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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Going to teach in China? Then you need to make yourself scam-proof first. How?
1 hour of reading will do it...


http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral

http://chinascamwatch.org

http://eslwatch.info/forum/china

http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.org

http://www.chinascambusters.com

China is a minefield of scams friends. I just finished my second year here and I am leaving without a second thought. If you decide to go anyway, be sure to make sure your employer and recruiter are not on this blacklist: https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST




ESL in China [Only]... :: Free VPN that actually works in China - Promo at Reddit
Author: Shannon
Subject: Free VPN that actually works in China - Promo at Reddit
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:37 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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For TEFL teachers in China who miss their favorite TV shows, Facebook, and Twitter, here is a FREE solution at http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral




ESL in the Central & South Americas... :: RE: post deleted
Author: unionjack
Subject: Advertising
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:46 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Hello Bealtda

Welcome to the forum.

Sorry but advertising is not allowed on the forum. However, I have noticed that you have also posted on our FREE Jobs Board.

If you have anything interesting to say on the forum, we would be glad to hear it

UJ




ESL in the Central & South Americas... :: post deleted
Author: bealtda
Subject: post deleted
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:54 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Post deleted: Advertising is not allowed on the forum UJ



ESL Jobs From Home... :: RE: Part-time Job Teaching English Online
Author: Anou
Subject: Re: Part-time Job Teaching English Online
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:58 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

kayotts wrote:
Hey all - For the past few months, I've been teaching with VIPKID. It's been a great experience teaching Chinese kids English one-on-one. I get paid $20 per hour plus there are great incentives. If your interested, you have to a native North American speaker and willing to teach their curriculum. Check it out here: https://t.vipkid.com.cn/?refereeId=2558676

Happy Teaching!
Karen


i think it is better if you are a native