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ESL in China [Only]... :: I love new trend of Name & Shame China Scam TEFL Recruit
Author: Durango
Subject: I love new trend of Name & Shame China Scam TEFL Recruit
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 5:22 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

This post has been moderated UJ

I was also a scam victim three years ago and I lost almost $3,000 because of this woman. Click Here for Reward I was tickled pink when I read this link and I sincerely, from the bottom of my heart hope the CFTU and China ScamPatrol and China Scam Watch go after every single one of these lying scumbags, We should all kick in 100 rmb to start a reward fund to tak out all the trash!

BTW... there are photos of about 50 China scam artists with their real names at http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.org on the blacklist page of almost 400 sleazeballs.




ESL in China [Only]... :: 1,000 rmb Reward 4 Real Name of Chinese TEFL Scam Recruiter
Author: CFTU
Subject: 1,000 rmb Reward 4 Real Name of Chinese TEFL Scam Recruiter
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:21 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

This post has been moderated UJ

If you can provide a color scan of this woman's passport, national ID card ,or some other verifiable legal document that shows her full legal Chinese name, the CFTU will pay you 1,000 rmb in strict confidence to any bank account you like. This is her most recent photo after she cut and dyed her hair. She used to use the name (removed) but now calls herself (removed)

The story about her can be found here:

CFTU Vows

Reward details

TEFL Blacklist

Send your information about her is strict confidence to reward[at]chinaforeignteachersunion.org and be sure to designate what account you would like the reward money deposited. Of course we can only pay the first party that submits accurate documents that the police verify to be real. Neither your name nor email will ever be disclosed.

This is the illegal contract she makes her China TEFL teacher job applicants sign https://myalbum.com/album/Qt6TWGP0olx3

Reports from her victims can be found here:

Realscam.com

Help us put this woman back in jail - again.

_________________
The CFTU is China's first and only private labor union representing the 25,000+ foreign teachers now working in China. Visit our website at www.ChinaForeignTeachersUnion.org for details and join our cause if you agree with it!




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Out Of Jail - This HUGE China TEFL Scammer Now Has 8 Names!
Author: Liza
Subject: Update on the China TEFL recruiter TEFL Crime Syndicat
Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:20 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

This post has been moderated UJ

Your news is a bit outdated... It is now 11 alias companies being used by thie criminal and she is even a moderator at the Reddit r/Teachers sub where she fishes for new victims with PMs. The (name removed) network is also her operation as explained at Reddit.com/r/TEFL_Blacklist and the China Liars List at scam.com.

Since being released from jail, this woman appears to be on a mission to monopolize the TEFL black market in China. She invented the infamous SIlent Scam and this is typically how she works boys and girls... https://www.reddit.com/r/tefl_blacklist/comments/6bm8sm/fraud_warning_china_tefl_job_recruiter

Read the above horror story or you are likely to fall for the same scheme which is very believable.

All 11 of her companies are exposed by the China Scam Patrol people at http://chinascamppatrol.wordpress.com. The good news is that the CFTU has vowed to blacklist any employer still doing business with by June 1st, 2017.




ESL in China [Only]... :: Not all Z visas are legal & genuine - Check yours NOW!
Author: China.Scam.Patrol Subject: Not all Z visas are legal & genuine - Check yours NOW! Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 1:12 am (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 0 PSA Warning to all China foreign English newbie & veteran teachers alike... Even we were shocked to learn that not all Z visas (work visas) are legal and genuine in China, but we learned the hard way when one of our own volunteers was arrested recently even though she has been teaching in China for three years. This may sound confusing but please bear with me as I explain... REAL & GENUINE Z VISAS: Are issued by the Chinese government's Public Security Bureau at PSB offices in China, Chinese embassies abroad, and Chinese consulates abroad. (They are not sent to you to peel and stick into your passport by private parties) They are issued by your ACTUAL EMPLOYER and not by a third party company that may be friends of, or cooperating with your company. Real visas are also linked to an invitation letter that is issued by your actual employer "ABC English " (for example) not XYZ Culture Company (for example). FAKE OR ILLEGAL Z VISAS: Are either sent to you by courier abroad in your homeland, or given to you by a private person in China with instructions how and where to stick them in your passport, or here is the tricky part... "are generated by a party other than your actual employer", which is usually not a education facility but just some company that will sell this "favor" to your employer for a fee that may range from 10,000 yuan to 20,000 yuan. Then of course, there are just plain counterfeits that some clever Chinese scam artists create with Photoshop which may or may not be coded properly. BY LOOKING AT THESE VISAS, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE! But the PSB has a portable scanning device that is linked to their huge database by G4 and within a minute or two, they know if you are holding a legal Z visa or not. So how can you tell? Just ask yourself 3 questions; 1. Was your invitation letter issued by your actual employer (the same Chinese & English name that appears on your contract and matches the red seal chop) and mention working dates that span more than 3 months? 2. Was your visa pasted into your passport at a Chinese government PSB office, embassy, or consulate? 3. Did you pay less that $200 for your visa? If you answered yes to all of the above you have nothing to worry about. You are legally working in China assuming you also have a real university degree and are 22 years of age or older. If you answered "no" to any of the above questions, you have a big problem that needs to be fixed ASAP, or like our colleague, you can be randomly asked at a subway station to show your passport to a uniformed or plain-clothes PSB agent, and within 45 days you will be back in your homeland following 30 days in a Chinese jail and a $2,000 fine. For more details about this scam and others that target inbound ESL & TEFL teachers to China refer to http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral, or our blog at http://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com. Enjoy your stay in the Middle Kingdom but remember the golden rule about Z visas - They are a mandatory Chinese government requirement to legally work in China - no matter what your employer or recruiter may tell you - even if you re doing private tutoring one or two hours a week. If you are asked to come work in China on a L, X, M, or F visa you are dealing with a scam artist who should be reported to your embassy or you can send us the details at report@chinascampatrol.org in strict confidence. In 2016, almost 3,000 expat teachers had expensive legal problems because they did not bother to learn Chinese law and depended only on their China job agent or recruiter for information. http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/china-visa-police-using-clever-sting-fake-job-ads-arrest-hundreds-foreign-esl-tefl-teachers. Most of the teacher[...]



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Anyone work for NAME REMOVED in China? Scam or Legit?
Author: More Or Less
Subject: Former Employee of NAME REMOVED gives review...
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 4:45 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

This post has been moderated UJ

I worked for (name removed) two years ago and quit after my 90 day probationary period. Although they do have a business license I resented the constant lies and scheduling abuses. From the beginning, they told me it was an American joint venture company and it is not. (Name removed) is owned by some Chinese partners. Their FOA told me they were partners with the Ministry of Education and they are not.

When the police came and arrested 3 of our expat teachers for using the fake diplomas and TEFL certificates Manager (name removed) sold to us, I was damn lucky to be in the restroom at the time or I would have also been arrested.

When they were setting up their Skype teaching program they actually planned the pay period so they would get 6 weeks of free teaching from people in case the teachers complained about the many deductions they took from us. If anyone really complained and asked to see tax receipts from the government we were reminded that we were working without Z visas and could quickly be arrested and deported. On our team, only the team leader liked working there because of all the bonus money she made replacing teachers every time someone quit, which was almost one teacher a month at just our location.

There is a bunch of complaints about them on the beijinger forum and at these links too.

https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST&p=1948554#post1948554

http://www.abroadreviews.com/

For me it was a learning experience not to be so lazy when looking for a new teaching job. SInce my (name removed) experience, I now only apply for jobs with employers that are white-listed here http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com/2017/01/cftu-publishes-2017-white-list-of-china.html. Live and learn.

Contact the poster for further details UJ




ESL in China [Only]... :: Out Of Jail - This HUGE China TEFL Scammer Now Has 8 Names!
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: Out Of Jail - This HUGE China TEFL Scammer Now Has 8 Names!
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 4:33 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

This post has been moderated UJ

Ms. Evil was released from jail and is now skimming from China TEFL teachers - AGAIN!

(image)

China TEFL veteran teachers will remember the notorious recruiter *****
who ran ******* ESL for years and then ****** ESL and **********ESL. That was BEFORE she was arrested and went to jail. Even though she pleaded guilty to cheating "about 2,000 foreign English teachers" she only spent 6 months behind bars.

After being released 18 months ago, she is back to cheating people with 8 different alias companies!

https://www.reddit.com/r/TEFL_ESL_SCAMS/comments/69kxnm/warning_the_biggest_scam_artist_in_tefl_history/

The companies to avoid are:

**********.com

**********.com

********** ESL

********** ESL

**********ESL

********** ESL

********** English

**********Education

And here are all the foreigners she uses to lure other foreigners -mostly refugees from Ukraine and Serbia to walk right into her trap. https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST/page11

Here is the TEFL Teacher employment contract that made her infamous and got her arrested 3 years ago https://myalbum.com/album/Qt6TWGP0olx3.

And this is the famous and sophisticated scam invented by this wicked woman
Scam.com

For updates on her newest aliases check once a month at http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Anyone work for NAME REMOVED in China? Scam or Legit?
Author: St. George
Subject: STIRRING IT UP
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 7:15 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Etc, your previous post suggested checking the CFTU blacklist to determine whether a school is legit or not.

http://www.esl-jobs-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=14904&highlight=#14904

Why not do that now, because...

Methinks, you already know the answer and are just stirring it up on the forum, as usual!




ESL in China [Only]... :: Anyone work for NAME REMOVED in China? Scam or Legit?
Author: .etc
Subject: Anyone work for NAME REMOVED in China? Scam or Legit?
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:59 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

This post has been moderated UJ

What is the feedback on this school? They just opened a location walking distance from my apartment and the classrooms are modern and nice. Are they good people to work for and who owns the company. They say they are "international" but won't tell me who the owner is. What is the 411 on this company? Thanks in advance.




ESL in China [Only]... :: Urgent China ESL & TEFL Teacher Scam Alert-9 New Alias F
Author: CFTU
Subject: Urgent China ESL & TEFL Teacher Scam Alert-9 New Alias F
Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 2:42 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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The most infamous China scam recruiter who was exposed in 2014 for skimming up to 66% of teacher's wages with fake taxes, deposits, etc made a huge comeback recently using the 9 new company names you will find here at scam.com. (we are not allowed to post specific names here at ESLE) https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST&p=1947373#post1947373

Don't be fooled by the perfect English on all the websites or the foreigners that call you back. All three of the wai guo ren (foreigners) have been exposed at realscam.com, eslwatch.info, china scam patrol, scam.com or eslwtach.info and they have been affiliates of Rebecca for years and the David character in Canada even admitted to being here "partner".

This woman got over 1200 expat teachers arrested and deported for not giving them expensive z visas, and had over 380 complaints posted on the forum of Beijinger.com and elsewhere. Do not become Rebecca's next victim friends! They do not call her the "Wicked Witch Of The East" for nothing!

More about Rebecca and 50 other China blacklisted identity thefts and crooked recruiters can be found at http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral and you can find another 389 on our website as well. If you have been cheated in China, please share your story with us in confidence at reports@chinaforeignteachersunion.org.
_________________
The CFTU is China's first and only private labor union representing the 25,000+ foreign teachers now working in China. Visit our website at www.ChinaForeignTeachersUnion.org for details and join our cause if you agree with it!




ESL in China [Only]... :: Fake TEFL Certificates Get 143 China Foreign Teachers Arrest
Author: Dragonbreath
Subject: Fake TEFL Certificates Get 143 China Foreign Teachers Arrest
Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 1:45 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

We were warned about the snitching and now I guess we are seeing the aftermath. Cops are using the fairly new "False Documents Law" to arrest fake teachers in China that are using fabricated TEFL certificates and dipllomas, and police certifucates. https://www.reddit.com/r/ChinaJobs/comments/69hx38/be_aware_of_chinas_new_false_documents_law_which/

I have not seen my teacher pal Billy in almost two weeks and when I dropped by to visit him yesterday it freaked me out when his neighbors told me the police took him away last month. I remember him asking me if I wanted to buy a TEFL certificate "exact replica" for 1,000 yuan back in January. I am now so glad I said " no thanks".




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Uncensored China ESL & TEFL Blacklists Name 389 Cheaters
Author: Grumpy
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:05 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 4

Two things worth mentioning IMO:

1) Scammers often use many different names to market and recruit under, as explained here: http://www.scamalot.com/ScamTipReports/86021 and here http://opnlttr.com/letter/scam-warning-gi2c-china-internship-fraud-marketing-under-various-company-names-targeting-uni


2) There is a Global Blacklist you can use for free that identifies ESL & TEFL teaching scams in every country... http://Reddit.com/r/tefl_esl_scams.


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Getting the ESL Job... :: Getting a SAFE & LEGITIMATE Teaching Job Overseas - DIY
Author: Grumpy Subject: Getting a SAFE & LEGITIMATE Teaching Job Overseas - DIY Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:56 pm (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 0 I subscribe to some different newsletters and two of them focus on all the teaching job scams. and here is something I cut from China Scam Patrol's "Better Safe Than Sorry" newsletter that is worth sharing I think: "Over 90% of all the job ads you see posted online are either fraudulent "magnet ads" of job that are designed only to get a large amount of resumes sent in that then become sales leads for the recruiters. They typically feature high pay and great benefits - the ideal job. About 30% of the ads are posted by identity thieves fishing for new victims. So here is how to avoid these risks... 1) Only put minimal personal information on your first resume sent. Go heavy on your qualifications and very light on your identifying data. For example, if your name is Paul David Robinson, only put "P. David Robinson" on your resume and NEVER give your address, date of birth, or even a city. It is good enough to say you hail from the State of Illinois. Passport Scans should not be sent to anyone except direct employers, not agents, nor third party recruiters. It is sufficient to say, I am a native-born U.S. citizen, and will provide a PP scan upon receipt of a suitable written job offer from a direct employer for security reasons. 2) Never ever upload you resume online that the whole world can view or even "subscribers" to a website, which will surely include at least a dozen ID thieves. This explains what happens to 40% of people who upload their resumes: http://chinascamwatch.wordpress.com 3) Go the FIY route and avoid recruiters and agents, most of which are unlicensed and unregistered in foreign countries which means - ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY. Send your own resume and photo directly to the HR departments of training companies, and to "FAOs" of schools (Foreign Affairs Officers) - they all speak English these days. Know the visa laws and teaching requirement of the country you want to work. Never think nor believe an agent or recruiter is obligated to tell you the truth. They will tell you only what they want and need you to know to sign their contract ASAP. In China for example, you can visit the government website of http://safea.gov.cn or http://www.chinaforeigntecahersunion.com. 5) Start using ESL & TEFL white and blacklists. The global TEFL & ESL blacklist can be found at http://reddit.com/r/tefl_esl_scams. For all other blacklists you need to search on Google or Yahoo for them with keywords like "China, TEFL, ESL, teaching, blacklists". If you follow these 5 basic rules, you will be keeping yourself out of harm's way. If you ignore them you will probably get skimmed on your salary or cheated in another devious way. Good luck to you and bon voyage. Visit our blog for more tips and Scam Alerts at http://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com" [...]



Getting the ESL Job... :: RE: Fraud Alert: Almost All China Internships Are Scams!
Author: Giv9
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:23 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Wow. thank you. This was an interesting post about aspiring ESL teachers who want to teach in China.



Other ESL Resources... :: Benefits of Reading
Author: Giv9
Subject: Benefits of Reading
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:19 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

Reading gives your brain a different kind of workout than watching TV or listening to the radio.
- Reading keeps your brain young.
- Reading can melt away stress.
- Reading good books boosts your vocabulary.
- Reading improves empathy.
- Reading helps you feel more connected.
- And Lastly, Reading can brighten your day.




New ESL Teachers... :: RE: Which countries pay most for qualified ESL & TEFL teache
Author: Giv9
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:10 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Japan pays well and also China. But you'll get a better lifestyle in Japan. India is the least desirable for ESL teachers.



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Uncensored China ESL & TEFL Blacklists Name 389 Cheaters
Author: Durango
Subject: China ESL & TEFL School & Recruiter Blacklist 4 Teac
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:37 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 4

From the depths of my heart, I say XIE XIE for these great links!



ESL in China [Only]... :: New REMOVED Scam Targets ESL & TEFL China Foreign Teache
Author: Durango
Subject: New REMOVED Scam Targets ESL & TEFL China Foreign Teache
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:24 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

This post has been moderated UJ

Do not respond to either new (Names removed) or you will make the same mistake as my ex GF in China who just lost some major money and is so angry is going back home to Seattle. She was so embarrassed that she hid this from me for two weeks. Although I knew there was something she wasn't telling me, I just thought she had another fight with Danny her new BF. But this morning, I saw she had left this on the computer screen and left without exiting the screen. Finally, when I asked her why she was reading that, she said she was "one of the dummies". When I offered to go with her to the police station, she just said she was going back home to America. No matter what I said could change her mind. I hope Danny can. https://www.scam.com/entry.php?6474 (Names removed)




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: 6 China Teacher Job Recruiters Arrested Now Ratting On Clie
Author: Shannon
Subject: UPDATE ON ARRESTED CHINA FOREIGN TEACHERS
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:59 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

My apartment is across the street from the Haidian main police department and when I came home yesterday I saw three white vans unloading 18 foreigners in handcuffs. I hollered out to them from behind the fence and asked them if they were teachers and they said yes. I then recognized one of the girls, but then one of the police started walking in my direction so I rode off on my bike.

When I got home I called a Chinese lawyer i met when my neighbor got arrested about a year ago for using a fake diploma and tefl certificate. Anyway the lawyer went to see if she could help.

She was not allowed to meet with the teachers but left them papers with instructions what to do and left her phone number. But she told me privately that all of them came from the same recruiter and they would all be deported in 31 days. I asked why "31 days"?. She told me that the cops now have orders not to let any illegal teacher out of jail before 30 days even if they pay their $2,000 fine tomorrow. SHe said they are trying to "send a message to all the expats working in China" that the Chinese government now has a "zero tolerance" policy in place.

I guess those 18 teachers will now hate China the rest of their lives. I personally think they should be locking up the recruiter, not the teachers.




ESL in China [Only]... :: Study Abroad Counseling & TOEFL-SAT Tutoring in China
Author: Okay Subject: Study Abroad Counseling & TOEFL-SAT Tutoring in China Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:40 am (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 0 This post has been moderated UJ HELP CHINESE STUDENTS AVOID STUDY ABROAD FRAUD! The reason I decided to start counseling young Chinese students about study abroad and passing the difficult TOEFL & SAT tests is because two kids on the Little League Team I coached in Beijing got ripped off by big name companies (Names removed) which charged them huge fees and then did something very despicable IMO. Both companies promised placement in one of the top 10 "Dream Universities" but deliberately pushed the students to pick 2 or 3 schools they never heard of but where the study abroad companies had great relationships, and where they collected a 12% and 15% commission on the tuition fees. One of the students had his heart set on Rutgers but since Rutgers does not pay any such commission (none of the top 50 schools pay any fees to agents), the "BIG" study abroad company simply told him, "we will apply you there but your 85 TOEFL score is simply not good enough". In reality, they never submitted his application to Rutgers, but told my student that they did. (I checked with Rutgers personally) Furthermore, after I talked with some new friends at China Scam Patrol, I learned that the first "acceptance letters" will always come from one of the three universities, the student is persuaded to add to his/her dream list, and when it arrives they celebrate with the student and tell him/her how lucky they are. In reality, it is Names removed, and the others who are celebratingbecause now they get to collect money at both ends - from the student, and the university! https://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com/2013/08/11/chinese-university-students-getting-scammed-abroad-and-in-china-by-study-work-abroad-frauds/ I was then invited to work for the third largest study abroad company in China owned by a Chinese-Australian and after two rounds of interviews I learned that they also knew how to manipulate the placements of the Chinese students in ways that could not be proven because of the "confidentiality and privacy agreement" they make their clients sign. I turn down the job that came with a a 40,000 monthly salary because I wanted to be able to look at myself in the mirror every day and be proud of what I do and don't do. I really detest cheaters, especially when the victims are young and gullible kids. I then spoke with an old friend of mine from Princeton where I once worked as an admissions counselor over 16 tears ago, screening Spanish speaking applicants. He became a dean of admissions at less famous university now ranked at 127-130. I learned from him that his pay is directly linked to the quota of international students recruited, whose tuitions are almost double those of domestic U.S. students. He admitted to me that they did, in fact, pay referral fees to over a dozen such agents in China and when parents occasionally found out and protested, "they had a sure-fire way to calm the waters, and found the student a scholarship" that no recruiter will ever mention. Why? Because recruiters do not collect commissions on scholarships - only tuition moneys! They actually want the students to pay as much as possible so they can earn higher fees. I then noticed how the kids were being taught TOEFL and it was simply rote memorization that was marginally effective. I wondered why TOEFL students I taught had an 88% success rate and why[...]



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: 6 China Teacher Job Recruiters Arrested Now Ratting On Clie
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: BIG problems with recruiters get China expat teachers arrest
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:01 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

This is some serious shit. I heard my principal talking today that 157 teachers have been arrested in Beijing during the last two weeks because of these recruiters now spilling the beans on their own teachers. I am so glad I went the legal route!



ESL in China [Only]... :: UK Students expose (NAME REMOVED) scam using fake China Jobs
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: UK Students expose (NAME REMOVED) scam using fake China Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:51 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

This post has been moderated UJ

Here are the links so I do not have to put the name of the company which is selling false career dreams with bait and switch recruiting methods that leave expats broke and at a dead end in China... https://www.tapatalk.com/topic/65081-the-student-room/4601750 (Name removed)

and here is another link from one of many victims found online:
Click Here

There is also a bunch of comments about them at Reddit at http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Uncensored China ESL & TEFL Blacklists Name 389 Cheaters
Author: Ms. Molly
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:41 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 4

These links the OP provides a great and quick way to know if your next job really is as good as the recruiter is telling you. Remember that these agents and recruiters make abut $500to $1,000 from you signature on a contract. So most will tell you anything to get your ass on a plane to China!



ESL in China [Only]... :: 6 China Teacher Job Recruiters Arrested Now Ratting On Clie
Author: Grumpy
Subject: 6 China Teacher Job Recruiters Arrested Now Ratting On Clie
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:31 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

If you or anyone you know used the black market services (diplomas, tefl certificates, or black visas) of these 6 recruiters, send them this link now before they are arrested. The PSB arrested 6 ESL/TEFL job recruiters who are now ratting out all their clients to avoid prison time and a 100,000 fine.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChinaScamCentral/comments/65m2z8/at_least_6_china_job_recruiters_are_now_snitching/?st=j1jw623o&sh=c6388cc0




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: 3 New Reddit subs expose TEFL & ESL frauds & scams
Author: Liza
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:19 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Now I will check these sites along with the CFTU blacklist and my CSP (China Scam Patrol) newsletter every month to keep from stepping in all the China job dog shit. You can always smell it, but is so hard to see. It's as if dogs in China poo the same shade of gray as the sidewalks! Thank you for the links.



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: 3 New Reddit subs expose TEFL & ESL frauds & scams
Author: Shannon
Subject: Xie Xie for the China ESL & TEFL Blacklists!
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:26 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Thanks DB. All three of these links gave me BIG surprises especially the job board scams.



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Urgent News 4 All China Foreign English TEFL & ESL Teach
Author: Shannon
Subject: The Most Dangerous Scam for English Teachers Abroad
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:23 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

PDA: This is MUCH more urgent and dangerous for ESL & TEFL teachers. See post Number 80 on page 9 here: https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST



New ESL Teachers... :: Which countries pay most for qualified ESL & TEFL teache
Author: Shannon
Subject: Which countries pay most for qualified ESL & TEFL teache
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:18 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

I don't believe recruiters anymore, so can some real experienced ESL & TEFL teachers weigh in here with the facts? Thanks.



ESL in Korea [Only]... :: New ESL & TEFL Blacklist is Updated Daily at Reddit
Author: Shannon
Subject: New ESL & TEFL Blacklist is Updated Daily at Reddit
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:09 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

PSA: Very much worth sharing with our colleagues. Spread the word:
http://reddit.com/r/tefl_esl_scams


These blacklists are bigger but only get updated every week or month:

http://eslwatch.info/forum
http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral
http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.org




Getting the ESL Job... :: PSA: ESL & TEFL TEACHERS -Stop Uploading Resumes! Scam A
Author: Shannon
Subject: PSA: ESL & TEFL TEACHERS -Stop Uploading Resumes! Scam A
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:01 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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See post number 80 on page 9 here: https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST




ESL in China [Only]... :: 3 New Reddit subs expose TEFL & ESL frauds & scams
Author: Dragonbreath
Subject: 3 New Reddit subs expose TEFL & ESL frauds & scams
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:49 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Two more current blacklists are grow at Reddit and one is just for China...

http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral

https://reddit.com/r/TEFL_ESL_SCAMS/

http://reddit.com/r/tefl_blacklist

This should be a game changer I think.




Getting the ESL Job... :: RE: No TEFL or TESOL Certificate REQUIRED in China -Stop The Lie
Author: Dragonbreath
Subject: CFTU is correct about the TEFL certificate not being REQUIRE
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:46 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

CFTU is correct. I called SAFEA's office in Beijng and a supervisor named Song told me these lies cause them to get over 100 emails every day from teachers asking about the "new requirements" and in reality they have had no TEFL certificate requirement for years! Theyare talking about this topi on Reddit right now. https://www.reddit.com/r/TEFL_ESL_SCAMS/



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Uncensored China ESL & TEFL Blacklists Name 389 Cheaters
Author: Dragonbreath
Subject: Thank you to China Scam Patrol
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:10 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 4

Thanks CSP - we really needed this. I read your blog last night. Very interesting. Why don't you guys write a weekly column on a major expat site? Expats need to see this shit. http://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Urgent News 4 All China Foreign English TEFL & ESL Teach
Author: .etc
Subject: Welcome to China ESL Teacher!
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:45 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Welcome to China - the land of 139 variety of noodles and endless scams. I found this at another forum and think it is worth sharing with you guys;

***** I was lured to China to teach and a few years ago and I have to admit there were a lot of things that the recruiters NEVER told me and when I asked certain questions, they changed the subject. After reading the post about the 10 ten lies of ESL recruiters in China, I decided to post these three links to save you all the aggravation and money I went through before I found a safe and genuine employer in China where I was not in danger of being deported. If I had seen these links I would have saved 6 months of my life and earned at least 20,000 rmb more. One of my employers even tried to extort me for 5,000 rmb to get my "release letter" which is needed when you want to upgrade your job. Anyway, this below is knowledge meant to be shared to reduce the number of expat scam victims in China. Now that I have an honest employer and no longer use shady agents, I am content in China except for the air pollution which is horrible during the winter months.

http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/300-china-job-scams-target-expat-foreign-esl-tefl-teachers-check-cftu-blacklists

http://reddit/r/chinascamcentral

https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST/ (Read page seven at this thread)

China is a fun place to work if you can avoid the scams and split-shift work schedules. *****




Getting the ESL Job... :: RE: Fraud Alert: Almost All China Internships Are Scams!
Author: Liza
Subject: China Internship scams
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:58 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Thanks for a great post. Here is a 2017 update: http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/china-internship-scam-alert-real-fortune-500-china-internships-are-always-free



Getting the ESL Job... :: RE: No TEFL or TESOL Certificate REQUIRED in China -Stop The Lie
Author: Liza
Subject: 2017 New law about China TEFL Certificate requirements
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:51 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Did you see the new law about TEFL certificate requirements for China foreign ESL & TEFL students? http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/foreign-english-esl-teachers-tricked-buying-tefl-certificate-courses-fake-china-requirement



ESL in China [Only]... :: Uncensored China ESL & TEFL Blacklists Name 389 Cheaters
Author: China.Scam.Patrol
Subject: Uncensored China ESL & TEFL Blacklists Name 389 Cheaters
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:41 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 4

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This website and others are legally compelled to censor names of employers, unlicensed schools, agents and recruiters that are "less than honest". But the below links name and shame the offenders without censorship. So before you take any new China job or even send your resume to anyone, check here first...

https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST

http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral

http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com

http://chinascamwatch.org

http://eslwatch.info/forum/china

Good luck in China but stay safe and secure from those wanting to exploit you.




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Reputation of (NAMES REMOVED) Scam or Legit?
Author: Ms. Molly
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:11 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

This company or rather these companies look to be huge and spend a fortune on advertising. I was called by both of them a few times in the last year but I enrolled at a TEFL program at a local university for only $200 so I did not spend any time talking with the UK sales reps.

But I was annoyed that they lept calling me a few times even after I told them I was already taking a TEFL program, and their last call was to sell me on a China teaching internship which made no sense to me. I mean it is so easy to get a real teaching job for at least 15,000 a month in China, why the hell would anyone want an internship that pays only 6,000 a month? Ridiculous!

I did dome searching on Yahoo however and found a string of complaints about these two companies going back to 2008. Here are just three of them;

http://www.teflspin.com/2008/07/volunteer-to-be-sucker.html

http://chinafraudpatrol.blogspot.tw/search?updated-max=2013-04-29T16:06:00-07:00&max-results=7

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/i-to-icom-and-onlineteflcom-fake-china-internships-worthless-tefl-certificates/internet/i-to-icom-and-onlineteflcom-fake-china-internships-worthless-tefl-certificates-i-to-i-1078645

As I read these complaints it seems they are mostly about misrepresentation and deceptions. Truthfully, I am glad I got my TEFL course from a real university that is over 100 years old.




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: TEFL Certificate STILL NOT REQUIRED To Teach ESL In China
Author: CFTU
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:53 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Thank you for posting this Shannon. Many people get confused or have misunderstandings after speaking with recruiters who are also collecting referral fees for TEFL course enrollments. http://chinafraudpatrol.blogspot.tw/2014/09/2014-china-foreign-teacher-tefl-tesol.html

We think a genuine TEFL course is a great idea for new ES:/TEFL teachers who never taught anything before coming to China, BUT we also think software study at home courses and online courses are not the way to go and are not very effective. Also. the certificates they issue are only recognized in a handful of third-world countries.

If you are already in China, you may want to check out the TEFL night programs at BFSU, Peking, and Renmin universities. SAFEA also offers a weekend program. If you are still abroad, the Trinity Celta program is the one most teachers have recommended to us and each other but the CFTU makes no official endorsement of any product or service.

Before taking any job in China however, we suggest you visit and read three websites to protect yourself from "problems".

http://chinascamwatch.org

http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral

http://eslwatch.info/forum/china
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The CFTU is China's first and only private labor union representing the 25,000+ foreign teachers now working in China. Visit our website at www.ChinaForeignTeachersUnion.org for details and join our cause if you agree with it!




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Reputation of (NAMES REMOVED) Scam or Legit?
Author: St. George
Subject: Stirring it up
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:18 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

More Or Less,

Many companies have the same owners, as it is common practice to invest in companies with similar products. Did you know that Tesco owned Dobbies until quite recently; I wonder what scams they were running? Incidentally, Tesco is a British multinational grocery and general merchandise retailer and is the third largest in the world. Dobbies is a British chain of garden centres and one of the largest in the UK.

Methinks, you already know the answers to your questions and are just using the forum to stir it up, as usual!!!




ESL in China [Only]... :: Reputation of (NAMES REMOVED) Scam or Legit?
Author: More Or Less
Subject: Reputation of (NAMES REMOVED) Scam or Legit?
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:36 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

This post has been moderated UJ

I just found out that both of these companies are owned by the same company in the U.K.and was wondering why they sell the same TEFL products under two different names. It makes me suspicious. What do you guys know? Have you dealt with them before?




Getting the ESL Job... :: Teaching ESL & TEFL in China - Top 10 Lies You WILL Hear
Author: More Or Less Subject: Teaching ESL & TEFL in China - Top 10 Lies You WILL Hear Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:31 am (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 0 My colleague who has been teaching at a private international school in China for 2 years just sent this to me and it is so true... (I was wooed by over a dozen China job recruiters last year) For anyone even thinking about teaching in China, prepare for the following lies and then read the links at the bottom so your wallet will not go on a sudden diet... 1.) You MUST have a TEFL certificate to teach English in China. 2.) You do not need a Z visa to teach in China for your first 90 day probationary period 3.) Foreigners have no employee rights in China for one year after arrival 4.) You really don't need a university degree to teach English in China 5.) Everyone works 6 days a week 6.) Marketing & Sales is part of every China foreign teacher's job 7.) The air and water pollution is not as bad as they say. 8.) You will save at least $20,000 a year working in China 9.) You cannot get a good job in China without a recruiter like me and TEFL certificate 10.) Once you sign a contract you are stuck in that crappy job for at least a year and if you quit you will be blacklisted and have your visa revoked. Now here is the truth... http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/foreign-english-esl-teachers-tricked-buying-tefl-certificate-courses-fake-china-requirement http://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com http://chinascamwatch.org http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral http://www.chinascambusters.com P.S. But even more important than the lies, is what a China job recruiter will never ever tell you: https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST&p=1944475#post1944475[/code] . . . [...]



ESL in China [Only]... :: TEFL Certificate STILL NOT REQUIRED To Teach ESL In China
Author: Shannon
Subject: TEFL Certificate STILL NOT REQUIRED To Teach ESL In China
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:08 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

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After 3 months of people trying to sell me a TEFL certificate telling me that I cannot teach legally in China without one, I contacted SAFEA, in Shanghai and they told me that THERE IS NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT BY THE GOVERNMENT OF CHINA TO HAVE A TEFL CERTIFICATE TO TEACH IN CHINA.

I then found this online to see if anyone was actually telling the truth: https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?616386-China-Scam-Alert!-Fake-TEFL-amp-TESOL-Certificate-Requirement-Fraud-Targets-ESL-Teachers-Teach-In-China-Jobs

This company seems to be the one that keeps spreading the false information...

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/i-to-icom-and-onlineteflcom-fake-china-internships-worthless-tefl-certificates/internet/i-to-icom-and-onlineteflcom-fake-china-internships-worthless-tefl-certificates-i-to-i-1078645




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is (NAME REMOVED) in Beijing China Legit or Scam?
Author: Shannon
Subject: (NAME REMOVED) Testimonials& Reviews Are Fake
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:51 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 8

You guys are all wrong about (name removed) !!!!! I just read this testimonial from one of their many satisfied clients...

https://www.scam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18265&d=1488989202




ESL in China [Only]... :: Urgent News 4 All China Foreign English TEFL & ESL Teach
Author: Okay
Subject: Urgent News 4 All China Foreign English TEFL & ESL Teach
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:29 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

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Dear Colleagues,

My flatmate in Beijing just got swindled out of $5,000 and the coppers told her that over 500 English teachers in China are being ripped off every month by the same handful of scam artists. This is a really sneaky and sophisticated scam that even very intelligent peoplefall for. Before you apply for another job in China be sure to read this https://eslwatch.info/en/eslwatch-forum/china/801-beware-fake-job-ads-at-beijinger-eslcafe-echinacities/1368.html and pass it along to your circle of teacher friends.

Remember that China has no BBB nor FTC to help you get a refund. Once you get tricked, you are trapped and there is only one way to get a refund - go to visit a CCTV news reporter!




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is (NAME REMOVED) in Beijing China Legit or Scam?
Author: Okay
Subject: (NAME REMOVED) Job Ads Are Scam Traps!
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:18 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 8

This post has been moderated UJ

This guy got snookered pretty good by (name removed) - go ask him!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/61wni8/only_10_of_all_china_job_ads_you_see_online_are/




Getting the ESL Job... :: Scam Warning! Read B4 responding to ANY China teacher job ad
Author: Okay
Subject: Scam Warning! Read B4 responding to ANY China teacher job ad
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:46 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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This is really a serious fraud that will cost you at least $5,000 even if you do not accept the job. Over 500 intelligent teachers are tricked every month becuase they trust the place where they find the ad. https://eslwatch.info/en/eslwatch-forum/china/801-b/1368.html

My flatmate was just recently swindled with this really devious scam. You were warned.







ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is HAIDA HR in Hangzhou China legit or a scam ESL agency?
Author: Ms. Molly
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:59 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Thanks Shannon, my sister just sent me this link as well... https://www.reddit.com/r/ChinaJobs/comments/5uahi9/beware_of_hangzhou_helen_haida_and_her_china_tefl/

How to warn people about them?







ESL in China [Only]... :: Monkey Tree English School In Hong Kong - Legit or Scam?
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: Monkey Tree English School In Hong Kong - Legit or Scam?
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:30 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

Have any of you worked there before?. The pay is good but the housing costs are steep. Opinions?