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ESL in Africa & S.W. Asia [Middle East]... :: RE: Update on Living in Saudi Arabia
Author: aardvark
Subject: Still in Saudi Arabia
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:09 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Hey: an update of sorts.
This place *cough* Qassim *cough* is the most conservative of the conservative Wahabi places. I'm still here and I witnessed a few personnel changes. Our dept. chair from Egypt left to go back. His replacement is a hard*ass from (I'm guessing Afghanistan) judging by his beard and dress.
He goes around the halls checking to see if students get let out early from class. He thinks that's in his job description.

The students couldn't care less if they learn English. They are all recipients of welfare in the form of $$ from the king. It's based on attendance and they all check their attendance records. When I want to continue a class (especially after an interruption) they want to see their marks. It's like they have no concept of appropriate behavior.

One teacher kept coming back from vacation late and a couple of months ago, he never came back at all. Teachers had to cover for his sorry @ss. A useless black from South Africa. I keep thinking there has to be more than money keeping me here and I think about the nice weather in winter. Other than that, not much.

I'm getting better at moving my money via internet and I can set up an online bank account in less than 60 seconds (or so it seems). Not much else to report. I have occasional trips outside KSA but I have to limit them to save $$$




ESL in China [Only]... :: Deleted
Author: 21days
Subject: Deleted
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:36 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

Post deleted. Advertising is not allowed on the forum. UJ



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Beijing's Mayflower Education - Where LGBT ESL Teachers Work
Author: Okay
Subject: Hepatitis problem in China found at Mayflower Education
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:24 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

I suggest every teacher whoever worked at Mayflower read this and get an Hepatities test and vaccination as soon as possible.

https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?714243-China-s-Hepatitis-Outbreak-amp-Toxic-Air-Pollution-Hid-From-Foreign-Teachers

But do not go to a Chinese hospital tp get tested or use your health insurance card from China to pay for the testing. Why? Because if you do test positive for Hepatitis, a STD or any contagious disease the hospital by law must report you to the PSB and your visa will get revoked immediately and you will spend 90 days in a quarantine faciltiy before being deported back home and flagged in the visa computers of the world as a health risk!




ESL in China [Only]... :: Urgent! ESL & TEFL Teachers In China: Hepatitis Outbrea
Author: Okay
Subject: Urgent! ESL & TEFL Teachers In China: Hepatitis Outbrea
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:16 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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Get yourself tested and vaccinated NOW. If you have been working in China for more than 3 years, you have a 50% chance of already have Hepatitis if you worked in a rural area and 30% if you work in the cities of Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou. What happened at Mayflower Education probably happened at dozens of schools in every major city. Read up here and get yourself tested and vaccinated ASAP: https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?714243-China-s-Hepatitis-Outbreak-amp-Toxic-Air-Pollution-Hid-From-Foreign-Teachers

DO NOT GET TESTED AT A CHINESE HOSPITAL BECAUSE IF YOU ARE POSITIVE YOUR VISA WILL BE REVOKED. Get yourself a home test kit. You will have to buy three different test kits since none of them teast for all strains of HCV http://www.webmd.com/hepatitis/understanding-hepatitis-treatment#1




New ESL Teachers... :: RE: Where to teach? Please help.
Author: Giv9
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:11 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 8

I personally think that teaching in countries like China and Japan will be beneficial for your career. If you consider going to India, the opportunities are rare to come by and the package is not lucrative. So if I were moving abroad, I'd go to Japan.



Say Anything... :: Teaching English with Flashcards
Author: Giv9
Subject: Teaching English with Flashcards
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:03 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

Flash cards are a simple, versatile, yet often underexploited resource. I would like to offer some reasons for using flash cards and a selection of activities for use in the Young Learner classroom, although some of the activities could also be used with fun-loving, lower level adult classes. Here's how.

1. FLASH.

What you need to do is simply flash cards in front of students and make sure they are watching. Their full attention is needed since you will flash a card in front of them very quickly. Show the card, and the students have to name what’s on it. Slowly speed it up, and start adding more cards.

2. PAIRING.

Decide on the number of the cards depending on the age/ abilities of your students. Have for example 6 pairs of 2 cards with the same image (12 cards) spread on the floor facing up. You can line them up in rows of 3 or 4. Have the students look carefully at the card for about 20 seconds (depending on the age), and memorize the places of the cards. Students, then, take turns to flip the cards in pairs. The one who flips all the pairs first (takes minimum time) wins.

3. FIND THE CARD.

Take about 20 cards with recently learnt vocabulary (images). Spread them around the classroom. Have a student name a card he/ she sees. The other students need to find the card. The student with most cards at the end wins.

4. MATCH WITH WORD.

Similar to the previous game. This time students should match card images with cards where the words are written.

5. DRILL

Divide your students in two groups. You can choose to drill vocabulary of phrases students have just learnt. For example, a picture of a girl. The student who is first in line asks: “What is Betty wearing?” Student behind answers: “Betty is wearing a red dress, a blue jacket, and brown shoes”, then turns back and asks the same question to the student behind. The team that finishes first, wins. This can vary depending on the focus of your lesson.

6. GUESS THE WORD.

Divide students into teams. One student of each team can see the card. He/ she needs to explain to the rest what the word is. The team that guessed most words, wins.




New ESL Teachers... :: RE: A guide to finding students on italki
Author: Giv9
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:47 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

I just installed italki. Thank you.



Training for ESL Teachers... :: RE: Free ESL Placement Test
Author: Giv9
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:45 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Thanks for sharing the site. This test seems very useful. I've registered with the website.



ESL in China [Only]... :: Almost 2,000 ESL & TEFL China foreign teachers arrested
Author: Durango
Subject: Almost 2,000 ESL & TEFL China foreign teachers arrested
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:19 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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People still don't get it - a foreigner working in China must comply with the visa laws and have a university diploma that can be verified by the university! Here is what happens when you ignore the law and listen to some smooth-talking recruiter or black agent. http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/over-1800-china-foreign-esl-tefl-english-teachers-arrested-chinese-govt-sting-operations-2016

All of these young people will now be deported with a felony conviction on their records and will probably never get a travel visa again to any country, since most all countries exclude convicted felons from getting even a tourist visa.




Links to Your Website... :: ADVERTISING
Author: sharon88
Subject: ADVERTISING
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:47 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

Post deleted: Advertising is not allowed on the forum. UJ



ESL in China [Only]... :: Is Teach-In-China.net & TeachInChina.com safe or a scam?
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: Is Teach-In-China.net & TeachInChina.com safe or a scam?
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:50 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

These are recruiters from Hangxhou, China who say they have offices in Washington and Toronto and have gotten jobs for over 15,000 foreign teachers in China. The guy bragged so much about their placements it made me sucpicious. Plus when I asked him about my invitation letter and visa details he changed the subject and just told me he would take care of everything. Most of the jobs they offer are in Shandong, Zhejiang, and Jiangsu Provinces. What do you guys know about them? Thank you fo ryour help.



ESL in China [Only]... :: Warning 2 China ESL & TEFL Foreign Teachers -PSB Sting G
Author: China.Scam.Patrol Subject: Warning 2 China ESL & TEFL Foreign Teachers -PSB Sting G Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:26 am (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 0 Last month in China 229 foreign teachers were arrested for not having a work visa (Z Visa) in their passports, or not having a real diploma from an accreditted university. You can read the story at http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com/2016/11/229-china-foreign-teachers-arrested-in.html Our information is the PSB officers made "deals" with those arrested to copy their phone data and "reccommend" at least 5 of their friends to be contacted by an undercover PSB agent who set up a fake "ESL head hunting agencies" in Beijing and Shanghai under various fake names including those below. Those who "cooperated" did not have to go to jail but paid a $5,000 fine. China Teachers China TEFL Jobs China ESL Center China ESL China Golden Bridge ESL New World ESL (THEY ADD NEW NAMES EVERY WEEK) But the ads they place on line do not give any names. They will only say something like "ESL Teacher Needed in Beijing 20,000 per month + apartment" These fake job ads are advertised in these locations; thebeijinger.cpm eslcafe.com echinacities.com sinocities.com craigslist.com gumtree.com twitter facebook When you go in for the interview they arrange for you, ususally at a hotel or a public high school, it will be a real interview and then you are congratulated and offered a job. If you accept, they ask to see your passport and diploma. If there is no Z visa in your passport you are arrested and jailed when you exit the building. You will sit in a van until they get 5-6 victims and then locked up for 30 days. If you do not have the $2,000 fine they will keep you detained until someone pays that fine. Then you are deported as a convicted felon, and not allowed to return to China for 3 to 5 years (at their discretion) The point is this, only three years ago it was easy not to get caught working without the Z visa and diploma. Maybe you had a 5% chance of detection. But now that the PSB officers are being paid a 2,000 yuan bonus for every illegal foreigner they bust, they have become truly motivated and aggressive. You now have a 50% chance of detection. Now it is your choice to follow the advice of a Chinese or foreign black recruiter or follow the rule of law. It is your choice to make. In closing we also warn you to make sure your resume does not fall into the hands of an identity thief which is an easy mistake to make as explained here: http://chinascamwatch.wordpress.com. NOTE: You also need to know that co-workers in the China TEFL community are being recruited to snitch on foreigners as explained below; https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/5e8si5/foreign_esl_tefl_english_teachers_in_china/ and also https://eslwatch.info/forum/china/76-china-foreign-teachers-unite-report-fake-unqualified-teachers-to-the-psb.html?start=30 [...]



Your ESL C.V.... :: ESL Teachers Wanted For $50,000 Dream Job - No Weekend Work
Author: China.Scam.Patrol
Subject: ESL Teachers Wanted For $50,000 Dream Job - No Weekend Work
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:14 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

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You will see many such ads especially if you are looking to teach English in Asia. The problem is that most of them are fake jobs and mostly advertised here:

eslcafe.com
thebeijinger.com
echinacities.com
gumtree.com
craigslist.com
sinocities.com
Twitter
Facebook

BEFORE you even send your resume to anyone for an overseas job, read this or you may be giving you personal information to an identity thief: http://chinascamwatch.worpress.com.

Now if you want to make yourself "scam-proof", slow down and just read for 30 minutes: https://www.scam.com/entry.php?5521-How-...nst-job-frauds




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Which Schools Pay Best Salaries in China To TEFL Teachers?
Author: Grumpy
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:22 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Thanks to CSP for that great post with all the links. It will surely come in handy for me.



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Urgent Warning 4 China Foreign ESL & TEFL Teachers - BEW
Author: Grumpy
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:20 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Holy mother of God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






ESL in China [Only]... :: Urgent Warning 4 China Foreign ESL & TEFL Teachers - BEW
Author: Okay
Subject: Urgent Warning 4 China Foreign ESL & TEFL Teachers - BEW
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:45 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

This blew me away. Warn all of your friends immediately. This is probably why those 229 foreign teachers were busted last month.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/5e8si5/foreign_esl_tefl_english_teachers_in_china/

and also https://eslwatch.info/forum/china/76-china-foreign-teachers-unite-report-fake-unqualified-teachers-to-the-psb.html?start=30




ESL in China [Only]... :: Is EChinaJobs a scam or legitimate China ESL Teacher Agency?
Author: .etc
Subject: Is EChinaJobs a scam or legitimate China ESL Teacher Agency?
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:59 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

They sent me three offers that are convenient for me and have 20,000 bonuses when you finish your contract. Their web site is basic with no specific ownership or history information. They promise a Z visa after completeing the 90 day probation period. What say you all?



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Beware of Recruiter NAMES removed That Snitch On ESL Teac
Author: Durango
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:04 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

I worked at Disney English when the shit hit the fan. There is no need to guess about this sneaky bitch. She no longer works for Disney. Here is what you need to warn your friends about: https://eslwatch.info/eslwatch-forum/china/595-tefl-fraud-warning-new-sailing-is-same-china-esl-job-scam-agent-as-sail-esl.html

There was also a foreign teacher named Stef** who used to work at Expertise Education that did much the same thing through his Chinese GF, but it backfired on him and he also got arrested and deported back in 2014.




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Snitch on Fake Foreign Teachers - China Pays You Rewards!
Author: Durango
Subject: Re: Chinese Employee Report Foreign ESL & TEFL Teachers
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:49 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 8

Grumpy wrote:
It is not only the TA's you have to worry about. Two years ago when I worked at Mayflower in Wudaokou (bad choice), there was a part time tChinese sales consultant that would make friends with the expat teachers and tell us she could get us all 20,000 teaching jobs that even came with an apartment. We believed her and when she asked us for our resumes, we all cooperated since Mayflower only pays 10,000 a mont and no apartment.

Within 2 weeks of giving her our resumes all of us were stopped one day comig out of Mayflower by the PSB people and asked for our passports. Two of my colleagues were taken away to jail and deported later that month. Fortunately I had already gotten my Z visa from my previous school and had no legal issues.

The Chinese teacher that set us all up was called "Jing-Jing" and looking back I cannot forget how she always had expensive Burberry clothes, Prada shoes, Gucci bags, and all designer stuff. She was too ugly to have a rich husband, and on her 3,000 monthly salary, I don't think she could afford all that expensive stuff. I think the Chinese management got tired of losing so many teachers, because she is not working there any more. She is about 35, and really thin and has a son that would be about 8 years old now.

Another teacher that worked there toldme over 8 teachers from Mayflower got bounced and the problem stopped after Jing Jing left.

This post has been moderated UJ
It only makes good economic sense to a Chinese employee who may only be getting paid 3,000 a month. Chinese employers are so expletive removed cheap, I can't really blame the girl. Teachers who choose to work illegally are taking a 50% gamble with their freedom.




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is Holy Global Education in Beijing a Scam or Legit?
Author: Durango Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:37 am (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 5 My roomie went for a job interview there about two years ago and he said the place was a dive and the owner claimed they had five locations including one by Renmin University. Since we live only five bus stops away from Renmin he went to check out the place and it was being closed down with all sorts of legal notices in Chinese pasted on the door with a chain! He took photos of all the notices and asked my GF to translate. They were from the tax bureau, the health board, the landlord, etc. Looking inside there were about 10 classrooms but no people during school hours. He then talked to one of the foreign teachers he saw at the Wanliu location and she says they had to start teaching out of an apartment so the police would not arrest them. Peter recalls that she was very pretty and her name was Megan or Morgan. She claimed that two teachers from Canada had just been arrested by the PSB since the school did not give them a Z visa she was going to leave after payday. Obviously Peter decided not to work there. I think he made the right choice because today when I searched online, I found this here at http://ESLWatch.info/forum/China: "Anyone out there ever work for Holy Global Education in Beijing (west side in Haidian)? I am super supicious and here is why... They do not advertise jobs under their own name but they claim to be part of Peking University (They are located on the Wanliu campus of Peking University). They would not give me their web site over the phone but since I am from Texas and am an American citizen, the girl I spoke with (Miranda) told me I could earn "up to 20,000 yuan per month". But after I go there and talk with Miranda and her boss Bessy, they say I can only get 20,000 per month if I sign a 2 year contract and they will pay me 15,000 a month for 12 months, and then give me the balance of the money after I finish my first year and then pay me the extra 60,000 yuan in 12 payments during the second year! What bullshit is this? Is this normal in China? They told me they had five foreign teachers working for them but I only met one young guy with blood hair from the U.K. His name was Jason and when I asked if I could speak privately with him, Miranda told me he was "busy" even though he just took his lunch break! Most schools have their business license posted on the lobby wall but they did not have their license posted anywhere so when I asked to see it, I was told that it was at the office of the company lawyer. So I asked for the name and telephone number of the company lawyer and was told "He doesn't speak English". When I replied that I could speak Chinese, I was told they would have the lawyer call me, but would still not give me his name! Then I asked for their SAFEA registration number, and Miranda told me they did not have to be registered with SAFEA because they are "a culture company". WTF? At this point I felt very uncomfortable and decided to leave. So I went to have lunch in the Peking University cafeteria and saw Jason there eating with a Chinese lady. When I went to introduce myself and ask him if I could talk with him about the school, he seemed to get a little nervous and said "I really don't want to get involved". Involved in what? So strange. What do you guys know about this school? They claim to be in business since 2007. But if they are that old, I think they should at least have a web site no[...]



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Beware Reddit China Sub Infested With Blacklisted Agents
Author: Durango
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:24 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

This is also a big problem at the Beijinger, yahoo.answers, and Quora. Being a moderator gives them access to new contact information on a daily basis, They will never use their "moderator" user name to contact you - always one of their sock puppet accounts. This is why it is so hard to out them with solid legal evidence to take to the FTC with a formal complaint..

The worst part is that the mods will shield all the scam schools and agents they are shilling for by deleting any negative information posted by users about them. This is a HUGE problem at ESLCafe where they take money and post ads for known identity thiefs with felony convictions (proven at scam.com).

So online job ads in China are NEVER what they appear to be in my 6 years of experience teaching in the Middle Kingdom.




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Beware of Recruiter NAMES removed That Snitch On ESL Teac
Author: unionjack
Subject: Real or not
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:52 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

Liza

The name, real or not, will still identify the person, hence the reason for removal.

Cheers

UJ




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Beware of Recruiter NAMES removed That Snitch On ESL Teac
Author: Liza
Subject: Deleted
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:13 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

Post deleted UJ



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Which Schools Pay Best Salaries in China To TEFL Teachers?
Author: China.Scam.Patrol Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:54 am (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 2 Hi Molly and welcome to China! Before you send your resume to anyone,you need to know three very important things before you even consider how much you will earn in China; 1) 70% of the teaching jobs you see on line are fake. They are advertising jobs that do not exist especially at echinacities,the beijinger, craiglist, eslcafe, and sinocities. They do this just to collect resumes and contact information. 2) 30% of the ads you see on line offering "work abroad" or "study abroad" are posted by identity thieves. 3) 90% of the schools hiring teachers in China are legitimate and honest,but 90% of the recruiters and TEFL agents that are advertising are dishonest and will cheat and lie to you. Knowing this, we urge you to read the following so you know what to do to keep yourself and scam-proof... About the above named web sites (echinacities,beijinger,eslcafe,craigslist, and sinocities) they all do this; http://chinascamwatch.wordpress.com Here is proof how fake these sites are: http://answers.echinacities.com/question/utmost-respect-admin?showid=319601#answer319601 http://answers.echinacities.com/question/about-cv-upload?type=alatest#answer000 Now that you know that money always comes first in China here is how to keep yourself from being exploited; http://chinascamwatch.org http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com http://eslwatch.info/forum/china http://www.chinascambusters.com https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST Now about the money question... Wall Street English pays the best and the other top employers are New Oriental and English First - IF you have 4 year degree in Education. The CFTU can provide you more details. [...]



ESL in China [Only]... :: Which Schools Pay Best Salaries in China To TEFL Teachers?
Author: Ms. Molly
Subject: Which Schools Pay Best Salaries in China To TEFL Teachers?
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:45 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

I am not interested in any black schools. I am looking for a stable and honest school that pays the best salary. I am a real teacher with a BA in Education and 6 years teaching experience in Korea. I will not reoly to any PMs from agents. So who pays the best in Beijing and Shanghai? I do not want to work in the boonies.
Thanks!




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Beijing's Mayflower Education - Where LGBT ESL Teachers Work
Author: Grumpy
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:34 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

Forget all the gay and lesbian crap. That has nothing to do with whether the school is white, black, or gray. IMO they are just another Chinese scam school. Why do I say this?

1. They do not provide a Z visa from day one on the job.

2. They refuse to show people their business license or even tell you the number so you can check with SAIC if they are legitimate.

3. As of yesterday Mrs. Chen at the Beijing SAFEA office said they never heard of this school and they are not registered with SAFEA. This means they are not licensed nor authroized by the Chinese government to hire foreign employees.

Really... What more do we need to know? Next week I will give this thread to my bud at the CTA and he will report them to the Ministry of Education, Beijing Tax Bureau, SAIC, and make a complaint with SAFEA. Since it takes the government folks a few weeks to get organized, they will probably be shut down before Spring Festival. Game over.




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Names removed = Same blacklisted scam TEFL agen
Author: Grumpy
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:23 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

This post has been moderated UJ

Thanks for the warning. I can figure out that the name of the ESL recruiting company includes a word that describe what yachts without motors do! Besides your links speak for themselves. According to China Sacam Patrol Name removed used to work for China ESL and that alone speaks volumes. She was probably trained by Name removed personally.

I am going to give this post link to my buddy who does volunteer work with the China Teachers Alliance and his hobby is reporting all these bad apples to the different agencies and bureaus of China. If nothing else this black agent will go broke from paying bribes.




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Beijing's Mayflower Education - Where LGBT ESL Teachers Work
Author: Okay
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:59 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

Gay and lesbian people have bills to pay too and I would not deny them the right to work and earn a wage like the rest of us. So at least Mayflower fills a niche that allows others to exist. Let's hope they are just good teachers no matter what their sexual habits may be. The students care less about the teacher's personal lives and I think it should be kept confidential from the parents as well.



ESL in China [Only]... :: Names removed = Same blacklisted scam TEFL agen
Author: Okay
Subject: Names removed = Same blacklisted scam TEFL agen
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:44 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

This post has been moderated UJ

These people need to be outed because they caused too many foreign teachers to be arrested and deported. And because they advertise under so many different names even more teachers are going to become victims. In case the names get deleted by mods, read these other links and warn your friends to avoid these snakes.

http://www.tefl.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=7441

https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST&p=1940632#post1940632

If people cannot advertise with their real company name and be decent enough to provide you a look at their givernment ID card to know their real name, none of us should do any business with them.




ESL in China [Only]... :: Beijing's Mayflower Education - Where LGBT ESL Teachers Work
Author: Liza
Subject: Beijing's Mayflower Education - Where LGBT ESL Teachers Work
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:24 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

We all know that China is a racist country, but at least they are not in your face about it like America. They also discriminate heavily against lesbian, gay, bi, and transexual teachers. But some schools in China are actually owned and operated by LGBT owners and offer a friendly place to work without stress or harrassment. Mayflower Education in Wudaokou is one of these schools which is owned by a Chinese lady name Bao Li (Amanda is her English name). She is very friendly and a born-again Christian.

The school is small but clean and has about 80 students from what I was told by one of my friends who works there. The downside is that they ar enot licensed to give you a Z visa so you would have to buy on eon your own. The working hours are only 20 teaching hours a week and the pay is decent and if you don't negotiate will be about 12,000. You can get 20,000 if you stick to your guns. Although they hire LGBT, they will not hire blacks or browns.

If you are lazy teacher on cruise-control,don't go to Mayflower because they monitor your office and classroom with cameras and microphones, and recently caught a teacher playing UNO with a VIP student for the entire 2 hour class.

If you are a teacher of color, the universities are still the best bet since China is not about to change their views any time soon.




ESL in China [Only]... :: Beware of Recruiter NAMES removed That Snitch On ESL Teac
Author: Liza
Subject: Beware of Recruiter NAMES removed That Snitch On ESL Teac
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:07 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

This post has been moderated UJ

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"Name removed" is not her real name, but it was the name she used when she was a TA for Disney English and got over 20 expat teachers arrested by reporting them to the PSB for reward money. The teachers she reported either had fake diplomas or no Z visa. Here is the original arrest that were followed by many more at different Disney English locations http://www.vice.com/read/the-chinese-esl-industrial-complex-shady-working-conditions-abound-for-foreign-english-teachers-in-china-127.

Anyway the CSP tracked her down and threatened to post her photo at all the ESL forums if she didn't fess up. She admitted to making over $50,000 in 2015 and said she reported over 120 teachers. Anyway, Disney fired her. But here's the bad news...

She now works as a TEFL recruiting agency in Beijing and we don't know which one so we can warn others. All we know about her is the following;

* She is Chinese about 32-35 years old

* Always wears her hair short and dyes it light reddish brown

* Speaks perfect English

* Likes to date foreign guys even though she is married

* Always uses a 163 email address

More about Name removed can be found here although she may be using a different name now and nobody knows her real Chinese name.

https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?713911-Make-20-000-a-week-snitching-on-illegal-China-foreign-ESL-amp-TEFL-teachers!

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ESL in China [Only]... :: Beware Reddit China Sub Infested With Blacklisted Agents
Author: CFTU
Subject: Beware Reddit China Sub Infested With Blacklisted Agents
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:44 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

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We had been working with CSP and one of their hackers identified three mods in the Reddit China sub that are blacklisted ESL agents with 16 different sock puppet accounts in that sub that pretend to be "fellow foreign teachers in China" who offer fake "Friendly Advice" to go work at schools that have gotten over 600 expat teachers arrested and deported in the last three years.

These devious agent mods have been linked to the blacklisted schools identified here https://eslwatch.info/eslwatch-forum/china/596-china-job-scam-alert-reddit-china-sub-infested-with-black-agent-users-mods.html

To avoid all this grief and possible PSB stings which have used Reddit from time to time, it is best that you check our white and black lists and the SAFEA registration directory before giving your resume to anyone for a China job or internship. Why? Read this http://chinascamwatch.wordpress.com.
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The CFTU is China's first and only private labor union representing the 25,000+ foreign teachers now working in China. Visit our website at www.ChinaForeignTeachersUnion.org for details and join our cause if you agree with it!




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: China Forum Job Scam Fraud Is Getting Outrageous!
Author: Grumpy
Subject: ESL Recruiters pretending to be fiendly fellow teachers
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:07 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

This is shameful and I have to admit that I fell for it and was directed to a school called Mayflower Education which the "foreign teachers" at The Beijinger "highly reccomended".



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Snitch on Fake Foreign Teachers - China Pays You Rewards!
Author: Grumpy
Subject: Chinese Employee Report Foreign ESL & TEFL Teachers 4 Re
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:06 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 8

It is not only the TA's you have to worry about. Two years ago when I worked at Mayflower in Wudaokou (bad choice), there was a part time Chinese sales consultant that would make friends with the expat teachers and tell us she could get us all 20,000 teaching jobs that even came with an apartment. We believed her and when she asked us for our resumes, we all cooperated since Mayflower only pays 10,000 a mont and no apartment.

Within 2 weeks of giving her our resumes all of us were stopped one day comig out of Mayflower by the PSB people and asked for our passports. Two of my colleagues were taken away to jail and deported later that month. Fortunately I had already gotten my Z visa from my previous school and had no legal issues.

The Chinese teacher that set us all up was called "Jing-Jing" and looking back I cannot forget how she always had expensive Burberry clothes, Prada shoes, Gucci bags, and all designer stuff. She was too ugly to have a rich husband, and on her 3,000 monthly salary, I don't think she could afford all that expensive stuff. I think the Chinese management got tired of losing so many teachers, because she is not working there any more. She is about 35, and really thin and has a son that would be about 8 years old now.

Another teacher that worked there toldme over 8 teachers from Mayflower got bounced and the problem stopped after Jing Jing left.




ESL in China [Only]... :: Any feedback on Gao Si Education in Beijing (Haidian)?
Author: Grumpy
Subject: Any feedback on Gao Si Education in Beijing (Haidian)?
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:13 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

They made me a decent offer but I cannot find anythng about them anywhere online. Information and advice would both be appreciated. Thank you.



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Missing China Foreign Teacher Finally Found In North Korea!
Author: Grumpy
Subject: This story is incredible!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:36 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

I thought this was joke when I first read it. Amazing! How could they just grab someone and smuggle them out of the country without the border guards doing something to help the guy? Was he drugged or ???



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: New Sailing
Author: Shannon
Subject: SAIL ESL is same Black China agent Scam as New Sailing
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:04 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 3

I guess they will just keep changing their names every time someone outs them on the internet! They are now featured at Scam.com;

https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST&p=1940632#post1940632




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: CCTV & CSP report 29 China Foreign TEFL Teachers arreste
Author: China.Scam.Patrol
Subject: Scam Alert: Twitter Trap China ESL Teacher Sting - UPDATE
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:02 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

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Just to clarify for all of you that the number of teachers arrested was 229 - not 29 as originally reported. It is difficult to get accurate information while the PSB operation "is still in progress". We obtained information that it will continue through the end of the year. Apparently only Beijing and Shanghai teachers have been targeted so far. 3 ESL recruiters were also arrested (2 from Beijing and 1 in Shanghai) Their mobiles phone contacts have been copied by the PSB so all those who obtained teaching jobs in China through these agents will probably be checked for a Z Visa and genuine diplomas. The agents arrested worked for these companies:

China ESL (aka Golden Bridge)
New Sailing
ESL Insider


Those who do not know the labor laws and visa requirements of China should find out immediately by reading other posts in this forum or contact the CFTU or SAFEA directly at:

http://SAFEA.gov.cn

http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com

More info about the arrests can be found at these below sites in English as well as in Chinese at the CCTV news site:

https://eslwatch.info/eslwatch-forum/china/585-29-foreign-tefl-teachers-arrested-in-beijing-by-psb-sting-fake-twitter-accounts.html#1112




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: New Sailing
Author: China.Scam.Patrol Subject: Beware! New Sailing China Job Recruiter & ESL Agency Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:34 pm (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 3 WARNING! New Sailing is a Scam in Progress! Union Jack must have a sixth sense. After we received three inquiries and five complaints about New Sailing we sent an undercover teacher to apply with them and gather some information. Unfortunately the feedback is not good. The company is not legit, that is they have no SAIC business license to do business in China, SAFEA has never heard of them, even though the New Sailing agents claims they are "registered and endorsed by SAFEA". Likewise the Beijing tax authority confirms they are not registered. One of their "independent agents" was recently arrested. Here are more details about the arrests: http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com/2016/11/229-china-foreign-teachers-arrested-in.html https://eslwatch.info/eslwatch-forum/china/585-29-foreign-tefl-teachers-arrested-in-beijing-by-psb-sting-fake-twitter-accounts.html#1112 Although some teachers reported getting jobs with New Sailing, the agency falsely represents that you can teach with a student, tourist, and business visas in China and this is not only false but illegal. They have also told applicants to seek out fake university diplomas, and all but two of the 9 "schools" they place with are illegal "black ghost schools" not licensed nor authroized to hire foreign employees. New Sailing also operates as SAIL ESL and the company is owned by a Chinese woman named Emily Zhang. The head recruiter is a girl named Sophie who will not provide her complete legal Chinese name. They used a foreigner named Peter Newell to register their web site to give the false appearance that that the company is foreign owned. New Sailing refuses to answer specific questions about their ownership and they advertise heavily on echinacities.com. Read http://chinascamwatch.wordpress.com We have passed this information along to the MoE, PSB, SAFEA, CTA, CFTU, China Scam Wtach, and Scam.com We regret it took us so long to check this company out but they were not at all cooperative. We will also be notifying the legitimate universities that they do represent of their recruiting disinformation. In the interim... Buyer Beware! [...]



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is Holy Global Education in Beijing a Scam or Legit?
Author: Okay
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:04 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 5

LOL! But i guess we would not be laughing if it was one of us that had to spend a month behind bars eating rice and bread because our employer turned out to be a fraud. I met this Brandy girl a while back. She told me the same people owned another school in Wudaokou called Mayflower or Mei Flower. Someone should check it out. Gao Si Education is another one of these black schools that cause teachers to get arrested. It is all a big gamble but the teachers are the ones who take all the risks. They should really crack down on the schools and arrest the owners - NOT the teachers! BTW... the Holy Global school has been blacklisted by the CFTU for over a year. I guess someone forget to do their homework?



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: CCTV & CSP report 29 China Foreign TEFL Teachers arreste
Author: Okay
Subject: 229 China foreign english teachers arrested - No Z Visa
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:59 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Thanks for the info but BTV news says it was 229 teachers - not 29, and my neighbor was one them. Although Cindy does have a Z visa (a real one), she never graduated from a university so her agent sold her a fake diploma for $500 (it looked genuine to me with a gold seal and everything). They actually contacted the university to verify!!! When she took her lunch break they were waiting for her. This was her second year teaching in China. I feel sorry for her students - all little 6-7 year olds that already bonded with her. Here are some more details about the bust which went down the last part of October or first part of November. http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com/2016/11/229-china-foreign-teachers-arrested-in.html



ESL in China [Only]... :: White or Blacklist -Which is YOUR school on China ESL Teache
Author: .etc
Subject: White or Blacklist -Which is YOUR school on China ESL Teache
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:52 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

It took me less than 2 pay days to realize my school was run by cheaters. The lure of high pay (20,000 a month) made me choose them over a university position teaching ESL to the professors. But when my pay check was 5,000 short and I was told they were holding a "deposit" to cover any fines, I blew a fuse because this was never once mentioned and certainly not in our contract. Now that I lost the other opportunity I regret that I did not use the CFTU white list:
http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com/2016/01/cftu-releases-2016-china-foreign.html

Did you ever check to see if your school was on this list? There is also a China Liars List at Scam.com that features a few dozen bad apple schools to avoid: https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST




ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is Holy Global Education in Beijing a Scam or Legit?
Author: More Or Less
Subject: About Holy Global Education in Beijing & Owner Bao Li
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:48 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 5

A picture is worth a 1,000 words...

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ESL in China [Only]... :: An Urgent Reminder 4 Every China Foreign ESL & TEFL Teac
Author: More Or Less
Subject: An Urgent Reminder 4 Every China Foreign ESL & TEFL Teac
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:43 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

READ OR GET SCREWED!

http://chinascamwatch.org

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ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is Holy Global Education in Beijing a Scam or Legit?
Author: Durango
Subject: Holy Global Education is fake English School in Beijing Chin
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:36 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 5

Well, it was not too difficult to find some comments and feedback on this school - mostly negative. Read for yourself; https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST&p=1940297#post1940297



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: PSB using slick job ad sting 4 China ESL & TEFL teacher
Author: Shannon
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:35 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

Warning! Tell all your friends working in China to get legal ASAP - a real university diploma and Z visa in their passport. The PSB is now using all sorts of sting operations to catch illegal teachers. And when they get caught their phones are confiscated and copied for other foreign contacts in China, and then those people get visited and followed to work by undercover PSB agents. Once seen working they are asked to produce their Z visa and diplomas within 12 hours or they get detained (jailed!)



ESL in China [Only]... :: CCTV & CSP report 29 China Foreign TEFL Teachers arreste
Author: Shannon Subject: CCTV & CSP report 29 China Foreign TEFL Teachers arreste Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:22 am (GMT 1) Topic Replies: 2 Teachers who fell for the teaching jobs being offered on Twitter and Facebook got a rude "good morning" 2 weeks ago when the Public Security Bureau's Visa squad in Being grabbed them as they went to work and could not produce Z visas in their passports. Here is one account from a user at another forum; "They are also using Facebook. 3 of my friends who worked at Gao Si Education group in Haidian District of Beijing were arrested two weeks ago and they were recruited from a Facebook Recruiter "ChinaCathy". And they were offered achoice to either spend 30 days in jail or a $5,000 fine and let the Chinese cops copy their phone contacts. Of course they paid the $5,000 and they are being deported this Friday. One of them was a student at Peking University and now willnot be able to graduate in June. Three years of study and tuition down the toilet! So when you hear recruiters tell someone it is 'no big deal' to get caught working without a Z visa or a real diploma, show them this story. The others that were busted were nabbed from a Twitter sting operation and now if everyone is offered the same choice of jail or the fine/phone deal, it is only a matter of time before the China cops have a huge database and start doing "random visa checks" that are not "random" at all. At the CFTU web site they have the statistics year by year showing how many foreigners got deported and the reason. It averages about 3,000 per year and over 80% of those deportation are for working without a z visa and another 10% for using fake diplomas. I wonder how they explain their new felony convictions to future employers when they go back home? Related Links: https://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/warning-fake-diplomas-to-get-3000-china-foreign-esl-tefl-teachers-arrested-great-job-eslinsider/ https://thenanfang.com/new-crackdown-on-english-teachers-working-in-china-illegally/ https://eslwatch.info/forum/china/424-28-foreign-english-teacher-recruiters-in-china-arrested-for-fraud-and-labor-law-violations.html [...]



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Is Holy Global Education in Beijing a Scam or Legit?
Author: Shannon
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:05 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 5

Looks pretty dodgy to me. I sent an email to China Scam Patrol about them and am now waiting a reply. I suggest you read this before you do anyting further in China; http://chinascamwatch.wordpress.com.



ESL in China [Only]... :: RE: Twitter used for China ESL Teacher Job Scams -Beware Friends
Author: Liza
Subject: More details about Twitter China ESL scam recruiting ring...
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:07 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

I just wanted to share what I found today...

https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST&p=1940299#post1940299

It is very sneaky and believable so beware people!