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RE: How Much Should Startups Budget for a Decent Domain Name? (Max Menius)


Valuating and pricing domain names becomes increasingly more complex as the quality of a domain name increases. High quality, industry-defining addresses based on a single word often have few to no meaningful comps, so there is no "formula" or easy guide that can definitively instruct buyers.

2 to 4 word long-tail domain names are more commodity level products with numerous substitutes and equivalents available. I think Sweetman's guide is more applicable to these types of domains. That he offers a % range of the .com can be helpful, though that range is subject to wide variability based on the particular domain name in question.

Link | Posted on Jul 26, 2017 3:11 PM PDT by Max Menius

RE: Inc Given New Chance to Secure .AMAZON TLD (Doug Mehus)


Didn't Kieren McCarthy at The Register briefly work for ICANN as a PR official? ;)

Link | Posted on Jul 25, 2017 1:51 PM PDT by Doug Mehus

RE: Nation Scale Internet Filtering -- Do's and Don'ts (Charles Christopher)


Paul Vixie 2010 “Hack In The Box Security Conference":

[00:50] “I’m shocked because this is a really bad idea and I can think of ten different complaints that this audience ought to have about it”

[01:07] “This is an attack on network neutrality”

[01:19] “This will absolutely make the DNS less reliable”

[01:41] “The place where you are legislate the use of RPZ by all ISPs"

[12:15] “Yes it's also a great tool for government censorship and
oppression. I don’t know what to do about that. I’m Sorry."

Link | Posted on Jul 18, 2017 8:12 AM PDT by Charles Christopher

RE: After 21 Years, Actor David Duchovny Wins His Domain Name (Gerald M. Levine)


WIPO Final Report, Paragraph 199: “It is NOT recommended that claims under the administrative procedure be subject to a time limitation.” However, delay in commencing a proceeding has consequences under paragraph 4(c)(i) of the Policy, but celebrities are privileged over businesses whose marks are capable of evoking distinct associations. Celebrities' names are attached to the person.  As the Panel also pointed out in terms of proving laches, "“[T]he Panel finds that the record does not support a finding tha. t registration alone of the disputed domain name for 21 years caused any Internet users to be confused as to the source or origin of any goods or services and there were certainly no lost profits or loss of business or goodwill.”

Link | Posted on Jul 13, 2017 6:32 PM PDT by Gerald M. Levine

RE: Cloud Leak Exposes at least 14 Million Verizon Subscribers, Phone Numbers and Account PINs Included (Charles Christopher)


"According to a former Verizon employee briefed on the program, Verint, owned by Comverse Technology, taps the communication lines at Verizon, which I first reported in my book The Shadow Factory in 2008. Verint did not return a call seeking comment, while Verizon said it does not comment on such matters.

What is especially troubling is that both companies have had extensive ties to Israel, as well as links to that country’s intelligence service, a country with a long and aggressive history of spying on the U.S." (Published on Dec 8, 2006)

Nice Systems Appoints Former Comverse Exec CEO:

How Nice Is a Merger with Verint?:

"Verint is a unit of Comverse Technology Inc. (NASDAQ:CMVT), which owns about 65% of it, on a fully diluted basis. With no financial reports from Comverse or its subsidiaries for several years, investors are a bit in the dark.


Verint is a niche company, with excellent technology, and operates basically in the same markets as NICE Systems Ltd. (Nasdaq: NICE)"

Now the real question is, if you want to pass information to a "client" you should have no association with, would you simply leave the front door unlocked and walk away? ... And if caught, well that's just the cost of doing business, just move to another unlocked home and start over. Of course pay close attention to how others found the door unlocked and try to avoid making that mistake again.

Link | Posted on Jul 12, 2017 10:44 PM PDT by Charles Christopher

RE: Over 750 Domain Name Registrars Expected to Shut Down in the Next 12 Months, ICANN Predicts (Max Menius)


"… game the system” in the above article suggests that there is something abusive or inappropriate about drop-catch technology used to register expired domain names. This is an odd use of the phrase, and connotes some kind of negative value judgment being made about legal registration of domain names. I'm sure the author meant no harm, but use of language is often important - especially to those people not familiar with the domain name system.

Link | Posted on Jul 06, 2017 6:09 AM PDT by Max Menius

RE: $850 Million Valuation: Methodology Critique (Alex Tajirian)


1.  Yes, $872 million

2.  A simple present value calculation is superior to Relief-from-Royalty.

3.  Book value is what’s on the books, which is determined by how much a business has invested in the asset over time. Book values are not adjusted by market values. Thus, the book value of an asset can easily be out of whack with its market value.

4.  Accounting numbers (financial statements) are useful in determining the value of a business’ future cash flows, but not the additional cash flows from a domain name.

Link | Posted on Jun 30, 2017 7:35 AM PDT by Alex Tajirian

RE: Next Generation gTLD Registration Directory Services (NG RDS) - Proposed Successor to WHOIS (Harish Chowdhary)


Nice Article,for describing the details of New Generation WHOIS in chronological order.

Link | Posted on Jun 29, 2017 4:35 AM PDT by Harish Chowdhary

RE: Is the Passion Over Net Neutrality Misguided? A New Paper Offers a Fresh Technical Approach (Charles Christopher)


What I find most interesting is how the definition of "Net Neutrality" has changed over time, to the point of now being unrelated to the original.

"If you control the language,
you control the argument."

Link | Posted on Jun 27, 2017 8:34 PM PDT by Charles Christopher

RE: Phishing: the Worst of Times in the DNS (Jean Guillon)

2017-06-27T06:33:03-08:00 protect consumers:

Link | Posted on Jun 27, 2017 6:33 AM PDT by Jean Guillon

RE: Breaking the Mold: Reclassifying Over a Billion .XYZ Domains for Alternative Uses (Doug Mehus)


That's flawed reasoning. There ARE better ways to curb domain name spam and phishing. ICANN could, for instance, amend its Uniform Rapid Suspension policy to allow domain names to be swiftly deleted, and prohibited from re-registration for an unspecified period of between 3 and 12 months, to allow flexibility, for reasons other than trademark infringement. :)

The fact that you've got some domain names costing $40-60 (or more!) harkens back to the "bad old days" of Network Solutions as sole registry operator and registrar (not to mention root server operator and administrator of the functions of IANA!). It's too expensive for individual domain name owners who want to run a blog, park it for future use and even small businesses. In short, it's money grubbing. :(


Link | Posted on Jun 26, 2017 4:07 PM PDT by Doug Mehus

RE: $850 Million Valuation: Methodology Critique (George Kirikos)


Your critique is incorrect. Briefly:

1. It was $872 million, not $850 million. The figure comes directly from the financial statements.

2. For your statement "There are no royalty payments associated with the purchase of a domain name." shows a misunderstanding of the relief-from-royalty methodology. What relief-from-royalty does is ask "what are the royalties that would have to be paid if the domain name was owned by someone else, who charged for the use of the domain name?" Since the domain name (or patent, or other IP) is actually owned by the user, no actual royalties or licensing fees change hands. It's an imputed amount for the royalty, to determine its fair value. In equilibrium, a profit-maximizing holder of the domain name would charge a royalty or licensing fee just below the incremental profit earned by the licensee of the domain name. (i.e. if the licensor charged more, then the licensee would terminate the licensing agreement, since it would be losing money).

3. For your point #1, there is no "dividing the value of cash flows by the book value of the domain name." Show me the equation where you think that there is division. What one is doing is attempt to add up (and discounting to today) the expected incremental value of the domain name to earnings in the future.

4. We know from SEC documents that the domain name was acquired in a $90 million deal, albeit with the payments spread over 35 years (over $30 million paid so far). We know Wal-mart paid $9 million for the domain name in a bankruptcy court auction. Why is anyone shocked, given the enormous size of the automotive industry, that the domain name would be worth $872 million? Go try and buy it for less, and tell me what they say....

Link | Posted on Jun 26, 2017 7:56 AM PDT by George Kirikos

RE: What to Expect at ICANN 59, Johannesburg (Alan Levin)


to South Africa… hope you have fun…

Link | Posted on Jun 26, 2017 1:33 AM PDT by Alan Levin

RE: Breaking the Mold: Reclassifying Over a Billion .XYZ Domains for Alternative Uses (Alex Tajirian)


Unfortunately, your pricing strategy encourages domain name registrations for spam and phishing.

Link | Posted on Jun 23, 2017 10:38 AM PDT by Alex Tajirian

RE: The Future Internet I Want for Me, Myself and AI (Alex Tajirian)


I have been using machine learning techniques to value domain names since 2005 ( I have also pointed out the advantages of machine valuations over human (

Link | Posted on Jun 23, 2017 10:33 AM PDT by Alex Tajirian