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Published: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 19:36:32 +0100

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Accident on Friday at The Bend?

Sun, 23 Jul 2017 19:36:32 +0100

I saw police tape and an upturned vehicle on the concrete reservation in front of the Elephant pub on Fri Eve. Does anyone know what happened?



Re: The Goldsmith

Sun, 23 Jul 2017 19:26:27 +0100

Most pub have frosted windows, but agree it doesn't look too inviting.



Re: The Goldsmith

Sun, 23 Jul 2017 18:47:56 +0100

all the ground floor windows have been frosted now which suggests that it won't be open to the public.



Re: Camel & Artichoke Lower Marsh closed?

Sun, 23 Jul 2017 13:37:36 +0100

An appeal has now been lodged against the refusal of the first planning application.



Re: Police counters

Sun, 23 Jul 2017 11:07:16 +0100

[quote Jules62]I remember when, back in the day, the Tory party would throw no end of money to the various police forces, in keeping with the image they wished to project as the [b]'party of law and order'[/b].

Now, it seems, all that is no longer a priority...[/quote]

First thing Thatcher did was give them a whopping pay rise, they were politicised and they did their job RE: the unions.



Re: Police counters

Sat, 22 Jul 2017 23:59:25 +0100

I remember when, back in the day, the Tory party would throw no end of money to the various police forces, in keeping with the image they wished to project as the [b]'party of law and order'[/b].

Now, it seems, all that is no longer a priority...



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Sat, 22 Jul 2017 21:53:43 +0100

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Re: New Kent Road Revisited

Sat, 22 Jul 2017 18:20:56 +0100

I remember the gun shop, it seemed such a bizarre place to have it! They had a handy clock outside so I could tell how late I was for school lol!



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Sat, 22 Jul 2017 15:27:54 +0100

Having done a great job painting our house and replacing the roof, Mick Hanratty has now levelled the top floor of our house and laid a wood floor to the same high standard as the previous job. Very pleased indeed. 07577 965754



Re: Empty Delancey buildings in E&C

Sat, 22 Jul 2017 13:23:34 +0100

There are definitely more and more people living in the apartments on Heygate Street, going by stuff appearing on balconies and in windows.



Re: Police counters

Sat, 22 Jul 2017 13:01:56 +0100

[quote Guy's street][quote MPB]The closure of these stations are a disgrace. The last time I wrote to the Commissioner he said that the station would NOT be closed. I suggest the Met gets rid of the over-paid consultancy staff employed at NSY and other buildings. The Met is top heavy and expects staff on the ground to do the job of 10 staff they have made redundant. Shame on the Mayor.[/quote]

You say shame on the Mayor, but it is the Government cutting funding to these services, not the Mayor.

If funding is cut, then service has to be reduced somewhere - closing counters vs closing Police on the streets. Neither is ideal but if the money isn't there something has to give and in the current climate, I think most would prioritise Officers on the streets.[/quote]

Police on the streets? Where? I see them plotted in vans quite a bit, but I rarely see them on the streets.

I agree though, this is Conservatism in it's purest form and it's everywhere in every industry/occupation, top heavy.



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Sat, 22 Jul 2017 09:24:42 +0100

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Re: Hasan Kebab Restaurant TBR

Fri, 21 Jul 2017 20:04:40 +0100

Someone has told me that the people who run the toilets bar and the beer room are taking over Hasans... Don't know if this is true.



New Kent Road Revisited

Fri, 21 Jul 2017 19:28:00 +0100

Posted this in response to 193 New Kent Road, Chinese Restaurant.
I'm trying to remember the original shops. I believe Fordhams (with the Post Office inside) may have been right there in the early 1960's? Or maybe it was Ballard & Gilbert the upmarket furniture store. There was a Surgery a couple of doors along and Hizers the dry cleaners (everything hand ironed)! Ratman had the sweet shop (and another further along by Harry Weeks, the Travel Agent). Collins the gun shop (airfix kits etc) and Thurgoods (spelling) the greengrocers, on the corner at Harper Road. Next door an electrical store, that had no shopfront. Ratman always bought new Ford Zephyrs and Zodiacs, they looked like American cars to us, at the time.
Adjacent in Harper Road was a Co-op and a butcher, who owned a very posh Standard Vanguard car. The Co-op gave out tin dividend coins, to be cashed in whenever. They also sold the original broken biscuits by the half pound. It was all we could afford.
Opposite was Surridge & Dawson? a newspaper wholesaler.
Back to Ratmans the sweet shop. It had a penny chewing gum machine outside, which dispensed Wrigley's, PK or Beech Nut brand gum. Insert your penny and turn the side knob to receive a pack of four pieces of coated gum in a pack. The knob had an arrow, which at every fourth turn, shelled out a second bonus pack. Unsuspecting buyers, did not know about the secret fourth turn!
Any more memories?
Tut! Where's Jan when you need her, eh?



Re: Police counters

Fri, 21 Jul 2017 13:46:26 +0100

[quote Guy's street]it is the Government cutting funding to these services[/quote]

Something the Home Office deny: [url=https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2017/06/20/metropolitan-police-funding/]Rebuttals and Clarifications: Metropolitan Police funding[/url]



Re: The Rose, Snowsfields

Fri, 21 Jul 2017 10:51:08 +0100

Any feedback since the new management took over?

Also, does anyone know what happened to the French chef that used to work there (Cedric?). Quite enjoyed his food!



Re: Police counters

Fri, 21 Jul 2017 10:40:02 +0100

[quote MPB]The closure of these stations are a disgrace. The last time I wrote to the Commissioner he said that the station would NOT be closed. I suggest the Met gets rid of the over-paid consultancy staff employed at NSY and other buildings. The Met is top heavy and expects staff on the ground to do the job of 10 staff they have made redundant. Shame on the Mayor.[/quote]

You say shame on the Mayor, but it is the Government cutting funding to these services, not the Mayor.

If funding is cut, then service has to be reduced somewhere - closing counters vs closing Police on the streets. Neither is ideal but if the money isn't there something has to give and in the current climate, I think most would prioritise Officers on the streets.



Re: Police counters

Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:22:30 +0100

The closure of these stations are a disgrace. The last time I wrote to the Commissioner he said that the station would NOT be closed. I suggest the Met gets rid of the over-paid consultancy staff employed at NSY and other buildings. The Met is top heavy and expects staff on the ground to do the job of 10 staff they have made redundant. Shame on the Mayor.



Re: Mercato Metropolitano

Fri, 21 Jul 2017 08:58:37 +0100

[quote Rambling Phil] There are plenty of facilities that cater for the minority that do have them, but [b]there certainly needs to be spaces that aren't child-friendly[/b] - who doesn't want to have to share space with midget tyrants whenever they go out? I imagine even parents feel that sometimes.[/quote]
Sort of agree with you, but perhaps we might have different ideas as to where the line lies?

Personally, my approach to somewhere like MM (and many restaurants and pubs) is that they can be child-friendly in the daytime and early evening, but not later on. I have no problem with that.

MM for example, in my relatively limited experience, is a great place to take a child for lunch or for an early dinner, but then tends to naturally morph into a more boisterous place later on, which is more suitable for adults. IMHO, this is all good. One place can do two things quite successfully.

We were in there early on Weds evening before going over the road to a play, and there were kids in their uniforms, fresh from a local primary school, tucking into some grub with their parents. All good.

We went back for a drink after the play, and the atmosphere had changed. Music was louder, children would probably have been out of place, an ex-teacher from the same school was having some noisy harmless fun with friends, and it was still all good.



Re: Empty Delancey buildings in E&C

Fri, 21 Jul 2017 08:49:08 +0100

Ever been down to Heygate Street apartments or the Brandon Street townhouses at night? I jog by there every so often. It's heart breaking / infuriating to see all these beautiful family homes empty, with no lights on anywhere.



Re: Mercato Metropolitano

Thu, 20 Jul 2017 20:46:38 +0100

[quote Ivanhoe][quote Rambling Phil][quote goatlaw]My gripe is that it's not very kid friendly...[/quote]

There is a Nandos across the road for that sort of thing and, presumably, some McDonalds, too.[/quote]
Rather harsh, Phil.
...[/quote]

Possibly harsh, but not meant antagonistically. I read your original comment as a warning rather than a complaint.

At any point in time, most households do not have children in them. There are plenty of facilities that cater for the minority that do have them, but there certainly needs to be spaces that aren't child-friendly - who doesn't want to have to share space with midget tyrants whenever they go out? I imagine even parents feel that sometimes.

ps Edward Woodward - I've never eaten in one either, but the McPiss was standard practice while travelling in the former Eastern bloc in the 1990s.



Re: Mercato Metropolitano

Thu, 20 Jul 2017 13:13:45 +0100

When I used to take my children and now my grandchildren out for the day I never dream of going without a picnic for them, you can never guarantee what is going to be sold in places and often it is usually hugely overpriced, if I take a box for the children they have all their favourite things and we can buy extras or an ice-cream or the like if they want keeping everyone happy :)



Re: Mercato Metropolitano

Thu, 20 Jul 2017 13:00:16 +0100

For a non child friendly place, there's an awful lot of children there on a Sunday afternoon. They have free run and you will often see seats/benches with no one sitting there but lots of paper and crayons spread about, which can be a little annoying when you're looking for a plot but overall, it's lovely.

What a thing sweet potato chips are!



Re: Mercato Metropolitano

Thu, 20 Jul 2017 12:03:06 +0100

[quote Ivanhoe][quote Rambling Phil][quote goatlaw]My gripe is that it's not very kid friendly...[/quote]

There is a Nandos across the road for that sort of thing and, presumably, some McDonalds, too.[/quote]
Rather harsh, Phil.
Personally, I think MM is fairly child-friendly. It's not cheap, but that goes for adults as well as children. But there's lots of great food choices, even for relatively fussy eaters, I'd have thought (not many kids who don't like pizza or pasta, in my experience).
..[/quote]

I agree. I'd rather spend a bit extra on good food for my kids than taking them to Nando's and especially Mc D., (nver been toa Mac D in my life, except to use their loos).



Re: Empty Delancey buildings in E&C

Thu, 20 Jul 2017 11:44:39 +0100

[tweet]https://twitter.com/getlivingldn/status/887985832883347457[/tweet]



Re: Mercato Metropolitano

Thu, 20 Jul 2017 11:00:52 +0100

[quote Rambling Phil][quote goatlaw]My gripe is that it's not very kid friendly...[/quote]

There is a Nandos across the road for that sort of thing and, presumably, some McDonalds, too.[/quote]
Rather harsh, Phil.
Personally, I think MM is fairly child-friendly. It's not cheap, but that goes for adults as well as children. But there's lots of great food choices, even for relatively fussy eaters, I'd have thought (not many kids who don't like pizza or pasta, in my experience).
In the daytime, there's lots of space for kids and I often see family groups...



Re: Mercato Metropolitano

Thu, 20 Jul 2017 08:58:38 +0100

[quote goatlaw]My gripe is that it's not very kid friendly...[/quote]

There is a Nandos across the road for that sort of thing and, presumably, some McDonalds, too.



Re: Empty Delancey buildings in E&C

Thu, 20 Jul 2017 00:45:21 +0100

No - the student accommodation block (entrance on NKR to the left of the loading bay) has been occupied since last September. It's already been in use for a full academic year.

It's the general rental accommodation with the entrances on Elephant Road that's still empty.



Re: Empty Delancey buildings in E&C

Thu, 20 Jul 2017 00:13:13 +0100

[quote James Hatts]The student accommodation is already open - Portchester House:

http://www.portchesterhouse.com/[/quote]

Yes: it's open in the sense that people can take out contracts (and many levels are already sold out), but given that we are in July, there is nobody there yet, and barriers are still in place.

Come September (when the academic year begins) I expect the barriers to be removed and the students to arrive.

I have to say, though, that at prices ranging from £279 to £435 per week for a studio flat, we can expect rather wealthy students to move in...



Re: 20 Blackfriars Road

Wed, 19 Jul 2017 22:51:55 +0100

[quote sjac]The CGI of the tower cluster on the 18 BFR website (which includes a completed Bankside Quarter, One Blackfriars, and the proposed 18 Blackfriars) looks great! Much nicer for the skyline than random, one-off tall buildings.[/quote]

It looks like East Croydon