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Roth camera comparison: Nokia 808 versus Apple iPhone 8 Plus

Sun, 08 Apr 2018 11:41:18 GMT

Reader Martin Roth runs a YouTube channel, in part dedicated to comparing camera phones - and he's now put up videos on the Nokia 808 PureView versus the Apple iPhone 8 Plus. Worth a watch as he goes into some detail, comparing shots like for like.

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There's also a chat in German, but to get English subtitles, maximise the window and then dive into the YouTube player  settings - set the 'subtitles' to be 'Auto translate' and then 'English' (or whatever):

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Comments? The subtitle system doesn't work perfectly, but you'll get the gist!!

Zoom, zoom, zoom: by popular demand, the 808, 1020 and Galaxy S9+

Sun, 08 Apr 2018 06:52:00 GMT

Zoom is one of the few really diffentiating factors in phone imaging these days, with 'simple' photo taking now being mastered in almost all light conditions. However, no sooner do I mention a telephoto zoom lens in a smartphone, such as the iPhone X or (here) the Galaxy S9+, than people pipe up with requests for comparisons to 'zoom champions' of the past. I maintain that, classy though these might have been, there's an element of rose-tinted memories creeping in. But let's find out, with some examples of camera phone zoom under a wide variety of situations and use cases. As you can tell from my introduction, I'm trying to downplay expectations for the classics of times past. 2012 for the Nokia 808 PureView and 2013 for the Lumia 1020 are both half a decade away and tremendous progress has been made across the board since then in terms of sensor technology and, especially, in image processing.  Mind you, while newer is often better, the fact that it's taken that half decade for the Nokia classics to really get out-classed is testament to their class. I'm also going to throw in a third classic, from 2014 and running Android, the Samsung Galaxy K Zoom, which features a genuine 10x optical zoom in the body of a phone - it's a stunning device that I really wish hadn't proved so unreliable and therefore dropped by Samsung in terms of development. Maybe such a large mechanical zoom really is a bad idea in a phone, which typically gets 100x the use of a standalone camera in terms of punishment and wear and tear? Meaning that of the four phone cameras tested here for their zoom capabilities, three of them are 100% irrelevant in terms of a 2018 buying decision! But the demand for a comparison is still there, as you'll have read in numerous article comments, so here goes... The methodology here was somewhat fluid, not least because of the differences in output resolution and zoom capability, but the idea in each test case was to get maximum detail and clarity on the chosen subject. Why zoom in the first place? Usually because the subject can't be approached closely enough. For example, when you can't physically get close enough to a subject, usually at an event or attraction, with people or barriers in the way. Or perhaps something's up high? Or simply far away and you want a tighter cropped scene with the subject larger? Or perhaps you're shooting people and you could move closer, but then you'd intrude on the moment, so shooting from further away gives you fuller resolution with a tighter field of view. But on with the tests. Because I'm comparing zoomed output from no less than four different smartphone cameras, I've adopted a grid of 1:1 crops approach, making it easy to compare the same subject detail from all four at the same time. Again, I can't emphasise enough that only one of the three phone cameras here is 'current' and that, in particular, the Samsung K Zoom is only here to show what a 'real' zoom can do. As detailed in my guide to PureView zoom, the Nokia 808 and Lumia 1020 both zoom to around 2.5x in their default 5MP mode, while the S9+ zooms to 2x in good light using its telephoto lens, though at 9MP, which shouldn't be too far off what the Nokia units produce in terms of resolution. In low light, the Nokia pair maintain their lossless zoom, though the quality loss from not having oversampling is then more obvious. The joker in the pack is the ultra-niche part-phone, part-camera K Zoom, which obviously goes up to 10x zoom even at its full 16MP resolution. And in most cases below I use it. Gulp. But don't take this data point too seriously - what most of you are interested in is how the S9+ zoom compares to the Nokia zoom champions of old! Test 1: The Island A good example of a subject which can't be approached for a closer shot. This little island is in the middle of my local park pond. Here's the overall (unzoomed, to give you a sense of the zooming and cropping used) scene: You can grab the original test images from the Nokia 808, Nokia Lumia 1020, Samsung G[...]

Huawei's P20 Pro is launched, with 1/1.7" 40MP main sensor

Wed, 28 Mar 2018 08:12:57 GMT

AAS and AAWP readers will prize the Nokia 808 PureView and Lumia 1020 highly - I already reported on the imminent launch of another super-sensored camera phone champion, from Huawei. And it's here, and shortly in for review and comparisons too. Some official details and quotes below.The P20 Pro was covered across the web, but from Gavin's Gadgets: The rear cameras feature a co-engineered Leica Triple Camera New AI-assisted camera system. The 3 lenses are as follows. A 40mp RGB sensor. a 20mp monochrome sensor and a 8mp zoom sensor. The P20 Pro can do 3 x optical zoom and up to 5 x lossless zoom. The front camera is 24mp. A huge 4,000mAh battery. 6gb ram & 128gb storage 6.1 inch full vision OLED display. Bluetooth codecs APTX, APTX HD , LDAC , HWA DxOMark's tests aren't 100% real world, but they're a benchmark at least. I won't dignify them by quoting them, but their site does give some tech details on the main sensor: However, Huawei hasn’t simply slapped a third sensor and lens onto its current dual-camera system. The new model stands out among its peers in several ways: At 1/1.78″, the main camera’s sensor is unusually large—approximately twice the size of the Samsung Galaxy S9’s 1/2.55″ chip. Despite a slightly slower f/1.8-aperture lens, the RGB main camera sensor of the  P20 Pro captures approximately 20 percent more light than the smaller sensors used in most competing models. This sensor is also helped by the B&W sensor which also catches a lot of photons. The main camera sensor uses a Quad Bayer structure with a total pixel count of 40Mp. It outputs data binned in 2 × 2 pixel units, resulting in 10Mp image output. With an equivalent focal length of 80mm, the P20 Pro’s optically-stabilized tele-camera offers a significantly longer reach than the 2x tele-modules in the latest iPhone or Samsung Galaxy devices. This is possible because the main camera in combination with the 20Mp monochrome secondary sensor is already capable of delivering decent zoom detail at a 2x zoom factor. As a consequence, the engineers have been able to focus on squeezing a longer reach out of the P20 Pro’s tele-lens. The Tele also outputs 10Mp image. Notably, the Lumia 1020 and Nokia 808 didn't just 'pixel bin' - they used a sophisticated oversampling algorithm. But it's also possible that this does too and that DxOMark are simplifying the P20 Pro's imaging workflow. In terms of stats and areas, the 1/1.78" (optical format) sensor seems huge by modern standards, but it's still small compared to the Lumia 1020's 1/1.5" and tiny compared to the Nokia 808's 1/1.2" sensors. Though, of course, sensor technology has come a long way since then - it's not all about physics, for once. In terms of zooming, back in my initial story, I said: The cornerstone of the PureView camera in the Nokia 808 (and, later, 1020) was a way to zoom in without needing a physical mechanism. Hence the idea of smart cropping into a massive 41MP pixel array. And, after a gap of five years or so (and two operating systems later, arguably), we finally have another smartphone which looks to use a similar system... Back in the day (2012), the Nokia 808 PureView had to manage with a custom ISP that did all the hard work of oversampling and real time zooming, with great performance, while the Lumia 1020 added OIS to proceedings but lost out in terms of speed, using the main Snapdragon S4 chipset to do the computations needed. The computing power (processor/GPU) in 2018 would have been unimaginable five years ago, but we've now reached the stage where three cameras can be used at the same time, one of which is a 40MP sensor, as per the quote below, and with the immense computing power handling the merging and interpolating needed. As a result, the (up to) 3x zoom possible on the 808 and 1020 (depending on settings and set-up) may now be upped to 5x, thanks to fancy computational means. And a[...]

PureView zoom ideas to return in the Huawei P20 Pro?

Tue, 20 Mar 2018 17:22:49 GMT

The cornerstone of the PureView camera in the Nokia 808 (and, later, 1020) was a way to zoom in without needing a physical mechanism. Hence the idea of smart cropping into a massive 41MP pixel array. And, after a gap of five years or so (and two operating systems later, arguably), we finally have another smartphone which looks to use a similar system. Allegedly, according to GSM Arena. Smart rumours point to the upcoming (only weeks away) Huawei P20 Pro having 'a 40MP sensor, plus 5x "hybrid zoom"'. 

Back in the day (2012), the Nokia 808 PureView had to manage with a custom ISP that did all the hard work of oversampling and real time zooming, with great performance, while the Lumia 1020 added OIS to proceedings but lost out in terms of speed, using the main Snapdragon S4 chipset to do the computations needed. The computing power (processor/GPU) in 2018 would have been unimaginable five years ago, but we've now reached the stage where three cameras can be used at the same time, one of which is a 40MP sensor, as per the quote below, and with the immense computing power handling the merging and interpolating needed.

As a result, the (up to) 3x zoom possible on the 808 and 1020 (depending on settings and set-up) may now be upped to 5x, thanks to fancy computational means. And all without needing a physically huge/deep camera unit. If Huawei pulls this off then the pixel size will be even smaller than that on the Lumia 1020, but sensors have improved so much and there's so much power available these days for image noise reduction, that it really shouldn't matter.

From the news article:

The triple camera has been the cornerstone of the Huawei P20 Pro marketing campaign, but concrete details have been scarce. The new camera, co-developed with Leica, may pack a 40MP sensor, the likes of which haven’t been seen since the PureView days. Here’s the breakdown.


The 40MP sensor will serve as the primary camera. Next to it is an 8MP telephoto camera with “hybrid zoom”. According to unconfirmed info this cam will provide 3x optical zoom, which along with info from the 40MP sensor will help achieve high-quality 5x magnification.

The third sensor will have 20MP resolution and will likely shoot in black and white as well as assist with bokeh effects. The triple camera will be assisted by Laser AF and an IR-RGB sensor. As for the slow-mo videos, the P20 will reportedly shoot 960fps at 720p (same as the Galaxy S9 phones).

Whatever next? Three cameras, OIS, massive processing power, laser autofocus, the Nokia pair now look somewhat 'simple' by comparison! They still compete, mind you, even in 2018, and I'm looking forward to pitching the Lumia 1020 in particular against an (alleged) new triple camera Huawei to see if the modern zoom implementation can match 'old faithful'!


Modern times: Why replaceable batteries went away

Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:12:00 GMT

Sometimes you can't always get what you want, but.... you might just get what you need. So sang The Rolling Stones and a bit of a life lesson, but borne out by several technological trends, not least something that had been close to my heart, the subject of replaceable batteries in smartphones. See below for links, quotes, and current thoughts on the reality. The concept is sound enough, of course - let the user swap out a phone battery that has lost capacity. Or perhaps keep a spare in the car glove box for swapping in the event of an emergency. Yet, across the board, replaceable batteries have died out, causing me to wonder what went wrong, in the face of seemingly equal pros and cons... Quoting from my editorial 'Sealed vs user-replaceable batteries: is your phone battery doomed?' back in 2012 (and you'll note the article's age from the phone models mentioned!!), and highlighting the pane which needs expanding in green, for clarity:   Sealed batteries (e.g. in Apple iPhone, Nokia E7, X7, Nokia Lumia 800, HTC Radar)  (Traditional) Replaceable batteries (e.g. Nokia N95, N97, E6, 808 PureView, Lumia 710, HTC HD7)  Pros  Batteries can be custom designed/shaped to fit around other internal components, leading to greater volume and greater charge capacity. With no battery door, latch or sprung battery contacts, the phone can be simpler in construction and stronger. There's no possibility of the user putting in third party 'dodgy' batteries and thus compromising the rest of the phone's performance or risking fire etc. Batteries can be sourced relatively inexpensively, kept as spares in a pocket and swapped in and out as needed. When a battery's capacity has degraded significantly, you can just throw it away (safely) and buy/insert a new one.  In the event of a serious battery malfunction, you can spot the issue (probably early on) and prevent damage to your phone. In the event of serious software or hardware malfunction, you can 'pull' the battery to drain charge from the device and then restart it from scratch. Where safe to do so, third party batteries can be used to provide higher capacity within the same form factor. Cons  When the battery's flat, there's no alternative but to charge the phone directly, via mains, USB or a portable charger. When the battery's capacity has significantly decreased/degraded, you have to take the phone to an approved service centre and pay whatever the manufacturer demands to get the battery replaced. If the battery goes 'bad' and swells up or leaks, your device can be permanently damaged. On a long, demanding day out, you can't take a 'spare' battery (just in case). Battery tends to be smaller and capacity tends to be lower, due to the volume needed for the sprung contacts, support struts, battery door, latch, etc.  Batteries have to be (roughly) of standard shape, for ease of insertion and storage. You have to watch out for third party 'counterfeit' batteries, which may not provide what they say and may even be dangerous. [End of quote] I returned to this theme a number of times, most recently in 2015, in 'Does 'replaceable' matter in practice? A horrendously wasted opportunity...', which is a forerunner to today's ramblings. The thing is that I was absolutely right in my analysis - all the factors, the pros and cons, above, are still true and still relevant. Yet almost every smartphone produced in 2018 has a sealed battery. What happened? Looking at the three 'pros' for sealed batteries above, the first two are to do with design and robustness, and the trend to thinner, metal or glass unibody designs is inescapable, certainly above the budget phone price tier. Having a sealed battery is therefore a good thing and avoids having to compromise design or materials to accommodate a battery bay or release mechanism. But, looking at the table above, I still think that the [...]

Jumping to Android? Coming from (e.g.) a Lumia, the S9 is the best bet...

Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:44:09 GMT

If you're steeped in the Lumia 950 XL or similar, on Windows 10 Mobile, or perhaps the Nokia 808 on Symbian (this being cross-posted to AAS), then it's worth noting that I've been doing a LOT of testing of the new Samsung Galaxy S9. Almost uniquely in the Android flagship world, it has the full set of features (OS excepted!) that you might be looking for. So world class camera (and video camera), high quality DAC and 3.5mm headphone output, loud stereo speakers, expandable storage, and more. 

Anyway, the chances are that you've already jumped from Symbian to something else (maybe Windows?) or perhaps you're a hardened Lumia 950 or 930 user and are eyeing up where you could possibly go next, in the absence of any official Microsoft hardware (at least so far in 2018)? The Galaxy S9 is brand new and certainly has my attention.

So I've been reviewing and testing it. You'll have seen my side by side comparison with the 950 XL and the camera shootout? There's also now my video review, embedded below. Just click through to YouTube or maximise in place (depending on your browser) to see it in 1080p for best effect.

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So pretty impressive. One thing I didn't test in the review above was video capture and microphone quality, so that's next, here. My 12 string guitar at point blank range is pretty darned loud. I've included some familiar devices in the test below, in this updated compilation. So put on headphones for this one and crank up the volume!

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Very good indeed. For those interested, it looks like the S9 might be able to finally replace my old Nokia 808 as the phone that shoots my Phones Show video podcast, since it has volume, quality and (the weak point on the Lumias) a low noise floor.

A brief history of the most innovative camera centric phones

Sun, 11 Mar 2018 07:25:54 GMT

John Velasco, over at PhoneArena, has put together an industry wide, 16 year video overview of camera phones that's worth a quick look. It's not perfect and the Nokia N93 is a notable omission (IMHO), but loads of Nokia smartphones get featured, including the venerable 808 and 1020, of course.

If you want something more textual then see my own (and now slightly out of date) 'The Top 20 Phone Camera Innovations of All Time', from 2012, six years ago!

As usual with video embeds, maximise the window for best effect, or click through to YouTube directly, depending on how you're reading this article:

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Maybe it's high time for me to update my 2012 article? Watch this space (for a rainy day, methinks....)!

PS. In search of more recent content here on AAWP along the same lines, there's also The 'SteveMark'(!) top 10 phone cameras of all time' and 'Nokia camera 7 year challenge: Lumia 950 & Nokia 8 take on 2010's Nokia N8'

'Operation Elop' and the bungled transition

Mon, 12 Feb 2018 19:51:51 GMT

Authors Pekka Nykänen and Merina Salminen published a book in Finnish, back in 2015, about the fall of Nokia from 2010-ish through to the (then) present day, 2015. The central character in all of this was Stephen Elop, as you'll have guessed from my headline. It's a very long book, but it has now been translated into English and is available for free. See the quotes and links below. It covers the latter Symbian years, the still-borm Meego, the switch to Windows Phone and the eventual decline and sale of the vast Nokia empire.

(image) Having just finished speed-reading it, there's a lot of direct interest and a lot of sense talked in the analysis.

And at the risk of saying 'I told you so', the eventual conclusion by the authors and most contributors, after over a hundred pages (even in A4 PDF form), is that despite all the other issues Nokia and the industry was facing, the absolutely crucial mistake that Stephen Elop made was leaking the famous 'Burning Platform' memo, effectively shooting Symbian OS in the head and cutting off sales of Symbian-based phones to networks within days, leaving Nokia with a sales shortfall in the billions of dollars, rather than delaying the public cessation of Symbian commitment until Windows Phone-based Lumias were ready for sale.

Which is what I said, many times, on AAS and AAWP back in the day, in articles and on podcasts. Ahem.

But there's vastly more in the book. It gives all sides of the Nokia story over this period, it'll have you cheering for Elop one moment and villifying him the next. 

From the post at React etc.:

Now there is a translation of the book that is translated by a community and made available for free under the under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0) license.

The book is available in HTML format as well as suitable formats for Android, iPhone, iPad and Kindle formats. Operation Elop - Final years of Nokia Mobile Phones free ebook download:

There are masses of juicy nuggets and back-story that even I didn't fully appreciate, not least how close Nokia was to going with Google and Android back at the end of 2010.

If you have a spare afternoon then load this on your smartphone or Kindle and knock yourself out. You'll be better informed!

The Three Phases of PureView

Thu, 01 Feb 2018 16:35:27 GMT

A year or so ago I opined that Google's HDR+ software, the foundation of the cameras on the Pixel and Pixel 2 smartphones (and much cloned and hacked on other devices), effectively represents the next phase of the PureView idea pioneered by Nokia back in 2007 and eventually brought to market in the 808 in 2012. With commentary in video form, here's a comparison of results from three landmark phone cameras, which I'm dubbing PureView phases 1, 2, and 3. For those in the know, these ideas dominate the world of phone photography.

This video of mine was shot as part of my Phones Show, which you can find more about here.

As usual with video embeds, maximise the playback window or click through to YouTube, as appropriate, and make sure you're watching at 1080p in the Settings:

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Comments welcome. 

The computational photography in the Pixel 2 XL certainly seems a spiritual successor to the Nokia and Lumia PureView concept, but as usual, with my AAWP hat on, I can't help but wonder what could be achieved if only there was a 2018 follow-up to the 950, with more modern internals!

'Symbian World' CFW for the Nokia N86 gets certs and fixes

Fri, 12 Jan 2018 13:24:14 GMT

Back in April, I linked to a new custom firmware for the venerable Nokia N86 8MP, and the guys behind it are at it again, with a big update, making the old N86 usable even in 2018! Details and links below. Over and above the original firmware (which had a huge changelog over the stock Nokia software), we now have: Fixed some bugs we found in original FW that was done by Nokia, for example if flash original last FW or make hard reset and after that open preinstalled Adobe PDF LE app, default zoom in settings will be about 5xxxxxx%, now that and some other faults fixed; The standard OVi standby mode is replaced by the more functional one from the Nokia 6760 Slide, where exist only application shortcuts, 8 calendar notes and E-Mail client, also exist some more standby modes to choose one that will cover all needs; Built-in with restriction on exceptionally viewing documents "QuickOffice v4.1.73", updated to full-featured retail version 6.2.217 from E-series phones, with the possibility of their creation and editing; To turn off the red LED during photo and video shooting, you need to activate the added "RemoveRedLED" patch in the built-in "ROMPatcher Plus v3.1"; Built-in full support for SHA-2 certificates and added new root certificates, which is necessary for full-fledged work in the modern Internet; SymbianWorld icon pack updated with some more icons for 3rd party apps. Now it's more complete and good looking; Original equaliser settings a bit changed. Now music in headphones sounds better than on default settings; For the flash use built-in program button "Flashlight". It's stable operation is guaranteed only when you activate and deactivate app from the menu, and only the central navigation key. If U want extra features go and buy PhoneTorch from Harald Meyer for OS9.3: CFW can be flashed via J.A.F. or Phoenix (just delete red content file in Phoenix settings, all CRC32 checksums fitted to original FW files, so Phoenix is ok too).   This is the final version of CFW for N86. On this build, N86 is now the most fast and powerfull cameraphone from all S60v3 OS9.3 device lineup also still good for Web browsing via Opera Mobile/Opera Mini.. :) Also, just s little note - SymbianWorld CFW was developed mainly for N86 White. Productivity of White/Indigo devices on this CFW is the same, the chosen Ui icons (theme) is a matter of taste.Original Nokia White and Indigo themes also exist. But for those who have N86 Indigo device for maximum expirience better use this theme: IND190.Midori.Blue.Pro.Theme.v1.00(0)  Here's official iND190 9.x build for S60v3/S60v5 and S^3 for those who care. The collage also inside. So, it's just a little bonus. :) To download this firmware for the N86, grab: Nokia_N86_8MP_(RM-484)   All bets are off in terms of tech support and help, mind you. It's assumed that you know how to use JAF or Phoenix and the requisite flashing tools. If you don't then.... best stay away!![...]

Testing smartphone audio capture in 2018

Sat, 06 Jan 2018 18:44:00 GMT

I go into some depth when testing smartphone (stills) cameras, I even occasionally test smartphone video capture. But I rarely test the audio that's captured. Whether you're videoing some live music in front of you or just shooting video at a party, the louder, clearer and higher quality the better - audio is often more important than picture quality, I contend*. Here's a quick test of seven contenders, back to back, play along at home and let your own ears decide!* one truism is that it's much easier to watch a video with poor picture quality and excellent audio than one with excellent picture and poor audio. Try it and see! Now, obviously, I can only test what I have to hand, so this isn't an industry-wide comprehensive test. But I have included: the all time classic, the Nokia 808 PureView (hence me posting this on AAS as well) the Lumia 950 XL (heck, any top end Lumia would have done here, they all have the same HAAC microphones, so I could equally well have put in the 1020 or 930, etc.) the Nokia 8, marking the return of Nokia to the flagship smartphone market and with 'Ozo' audio capture technology - can it live up to the standards of Nokias of old? the ZTE Axon 7, running Android. This is the Chinese version with quad-DAC and high end everything, including microphones. the Marshall London, running Android. The original audio-specialist phone, capable of recording Motorhead and playing it too through high fidelity speakers. the Google Pixel 2 XL, the very latest Android flagship, though lower end here as it only records audio in mono (like the iPhone), possibly for wind protection and noise cancellation reasons. the Alcatel IDOL 4 Pro, the highest end Windows 10 Mobile handset still sold. It has wonderful speakers, but the microphones are somewhat dull and unimpressive - as you'll see. As you'll have noticed, many of these phones have high end audio - mics and speakers - reflecting that I tend to hoard such beasts, to the exclusion of less capable devices for multimedia. Hence no Samsungs, no iPhones. Oh well. I'd been looking for a rock gig near me, even a pub band would have done, in terms of delivering a challenging volume to capture. But in the end I settled for the repeatable 'treat'(!) of my trusty 12 string guitar at point blank range (around 30cm), as you'll see and hear below.  I was looking to capture the guitar's sound without distortion and with good dynamic range, in terms of hearing all the various strings and frequencies. Finally, I was looking at captured and encoding volume, i.e. how loud and effective would the soundtrack be? And to that end, I've left the volumes 'as is' in the montage below, i.e. nothing's been normalised or tampered with. As you might expect, you'll need to watch/listen with good headphones on, to really appreciate the differences: src="" width="640" height="360"> Aside from my rough and ready scoring in the video, I did come to a number of conclusions: I was astonished that none of the phones showed any distortion. Do the same test on most phones from, say, 2013, and only the Nokias might have produced a clean recording. But microphones have definitely become more capable in time. The HAAC (high amplitude) mics used in the top end Nokias and Lumias are still hard to beat, but the competition is gaining. The clearest, most vibrant audio capture here was by the Nokia 8, which uses three microphones and some proprietary 'Ozo' algorithms to produce a 'spatial surround' effect. As with speaker tricks like Dolby Atmos, it's very slightly 'artificial', but there's no doubting how dramatic it sounds, as your own ears can attest. In the scoring above, I gave the Nokia 8 the same maximum score as the Lumia 950 XL, but I did toy with the idea of[...]

Double-hinged and folding, aimed at business use - from 2007!

Thu, 04 Jan 2018 08:49:00 GMT

With all the recent renders and patents seemingly predicting a 'Surface Mobile' this Spring, with double-hinged design allowing use as a phone or mini-tablet, I thought it appropriate to look back into the past - such a double hinged design was seen before on a business-aimed smartphone, back in 2007, just over a decade ago. And thanks to a kind reader, I've got the Nokia E90 in front of my camera again. It's not much actual use in 2018, but it's extra food for thought.  Not least because there's a certain tactile pleasure in transforming a device. You may remember the old 'slider' T9 phones, also a decade ago? Anyone else remember sliding them open and closed, open and closed? Just because we could. It's the same with this Nokia E90, arguably the last of the Nokia 'Communicator' line of business-centric smartphones. It's impossible to hold it and not keep opening the hinge, enjoying the different angles, closing it again. Rinse and repeat. Admittedly there have been some laptop-size double-hinged designs in recent years, allowing 'tent', 'laptop', and other modes, but I'm struggling to think of any phones that included such design elements and ambitions.   One possible weakpoint of a hinged design is the data cables that have to pass through the hinges, of course - repeated bending might result in failure and repair. Yet this particular, rather battle-scarred, Nokia E90 is still fully working, ten years later, so maybe the wiring worries can be put to rest. Certainly the wiring in the Surface Mobile renders we've seen so far would have to be routed in a similar way.   Of course, one chief difference in form factor with the E90, compared to the modern day renders of a possible Surface Mobile, is that, when closed, there's an external phone-centric interface, plus when opened, there's a hardware QWERTY keyboard. Plus it's also important to note that the E90 wasn't designed to unfold further than 180º, unlike modern double-hinged devices, which usually wrap all the way around. Maybe I'm making too much of all this, but I did want to get the E90 in again (after so many years) just so that I could play with a double-hinged design in a phone form factor again. It's still satisfying, it's still sturdy, it's still flexible. Just imagine the same standard of hinge (only better and closer), with a slightly larger plan form factor for each device half, then think of thinner halves thanks to modern tech advancements, and finally 2018 internals and Windows 10 S as an operating system, with the 'CShell' Start UI.   All quite exciting really. If I was a betting man, I'd put the appearance of a Surface Mobile (other names suggested have included 'Surface Note', but I'm sticking with my original guess) in H1 of 2018 at 2:1 'on'. What about you? Anyone else remember the Nokia E90? Were there any other double-hinged phones you can think of? Let's take a short trip down memory lane together... and also into the future! PS. The Surface renders here are from the skillful CAD renders by designer David Breyer. Patent drawings are from the Microsoft filing here.[...]

Nokia camera 7 year challenge: Lumia 950 & Nokia 8 take on 2010's Nokia N8

Fri, 15 Dec 2017 08:42:00 GMT

8 versus 8, etc. I've lost count of the number of times readers have asked me to pit the new Nokia 8 against its namesake, the classic Nokia N8, from 2010. However much a monster the latter was, surely 2017 technology can trump it? I'm also including the reigning champion, the Nokia-designed (and Microsoft-made) Lumia 950. This will win out overall, but it's a useful modern age benchmark for the others - I'm genuinely curious to see how a 7 year old phone does! As usual, I've tried to match resolutions as much as possible, though in practice this only meant keeping the Lumia 950 in its oversampled 8MP mode, since the other two phones output naturally at 9MP. I'm not worried about shortchanging the 950 because it will pick up extra capability in this mode when looking at low light shots and when zoomed. It was suggested to me that I try the Nokia 8 with the 'hacked' Google HDR+ camera, sideloaded, but this is beyond the scope of this site. It's not trivial to find and install and that's best for Android die-hards. I often get criticised for using the Lumia's output as the basis for the 'overall scene' shot, so I've shaken things up here and used the Nokia 8's versions for the overviews. All photos were on full automatic, except where stated and all shots apart from the 'party' mock-up were handheld. Because I'm comparing the output of three phone cameras, not two, I can't use the AAWP comparator, so I'll use static crops - but at least your page will load more quickly this way! Test 1: Sunny suburbia Ideal conditions, and plenty of detail. Here's the scene from the Nokia 8: And here are crops from the photos taken by the Nokia N8, the Lumia 950, and Nokia 8, in each case click the crop to download the original JPG photo for inspection: Under such perfect lighting, there's not much in it here. The differences are mainly down to sharpening settings in the various camera applications. The Nokia N8 famously eschews ANY image processing - what you see in its JPGs are essentially what comes out of the Bayer filter on the sensor (with just JPG compression). Which is why its photos look immensely natural, yet not as 'clear' as with modern phones. It turns out that most people prefer a little colour enhancement, a little sharpening, and so on, to make photos 'pop'. I'm loathe to pick a winner here, though the Nokia 8's version is a notch down from the other two. Certainly the Nokia N8's photo is astonishing - look at the greenery on the right of the crop here, with no sharpening to make mess of detail. While the 950's photo stands out to the eye immediately. Nokia N8: 9 points; Lumia 950: 9 pts; Nokia 8: 8 pts. Test 2: Sunny scene, into the light Ideal conditions again, but trying to make things slightly tricker by shooting half into the sun and with extremes of light and shade. Here's the scene from the Nokia 8: And here are crops from the photos taken by the Nokia N8, the Lumia 950, and Nokia 8, in each case click the crop to download the original JPG photo for inspection: No real problems for the three camera phones here, though the N8 was struggling with dynamic range in the brighter parts of the scene, plus the contrast was poor. Meanwhile the Nokia 8 does a pretty good job overall and the Lumia 950 tops the comparison again, with pin-sharp detail and good dynamic range. Nokia N8: 6 points; Lumia 950: 9 pts; Nokia 8: 8 pts. Test 3: Zoom test Good lighting, though the sun had now gone behind a cloud. I was aiming for a 2x zoom on the clock, though there's no exact UI gauge in any of these phones to get exactly 2x. Here's the scene from the Nokia 8: And here are crops from the photos taken by the Nokia N8, the Lumia 950, and Nokia 8, in each case click the crop to download [...]

Windows on phones stymied by moving goalposts... just like Symbian

Wed, 06 Dec 2017 07:23:00 GMT

The problem with the tech world is, from an operating system provider's point of view, that the goalposts keep moving. These perambulating pieces of wood killed Symbian, killed Blackberry, have almost killed Windows Phone and Windows 10 Mobile, and, one day, may even kill iOS as we know it today. With hindsight, it's all too clear, but at the time OS coders were making sensible choices. I'll use Symbian as an example here, since this is being posted on AAS as well as AAWP. Back in 1998 when Symbian was being designed, and even in the early 2000s, when the first smartphones became available, the concept of getting 'online' was still quite new and connectivity certainly not taken for granted. In many cases, the connection was via GPRS and cost significant money. Which is why the only 'silent' connectivity was via Wifi and any attempt by phone software to start up a GPRS data connection was accompanied by (to paraphrase) an 'Are you sure?' message. This legacy impression of a 'nanny' OS stayed with Symbian for much of its life, right up to the end (in 2012, with the last Symbian device, the classic Nokia 808), though from about 2007 onwards the warnings were dialled right back as connectivity became ubiquitous and relatively inexpensive (or bundled). The goalposts that had constrained the OS had moved and the OS had to adapt - and it did, to a degree.  Another good example from the Symbian days is the Web browser. Much ridiculed today by many, this is unfair since back in 2006 when it appeared it was a superb example of a 'modern' Webkit-based browser, letting relatively tiny phones render full web sites (of the time) in a sensible way. There was nothing to touch it until the iPhone's Safari and far greater horsepower appeared in 2007 to take mobile browsing up a notch. However, the Web is a fast changing beast. Pages which were typically 50kb of HTML and 500k of images in 2006 have become 1MB of HTML and scripting, with 5MB of images, ten years later. At least a ten fold increase in size, plus an extra increase in terms of complexity and interactivity. The web was 95% reference ten years ago, and now it's 95% interactive. Those moving goalposts again. And so to today and this editorial in the context of Windows 10 Mobile being increasingly sidelined by the exact same phenomenon. I'll use two examples.  Firstly, mobile payments. This wasn't a 'thing' even five years ago, but the idea of using NFC for paying for things 'contactless' using a phone is now ubiquitous. In 2017, people expect to be able to pay for things using their watch, for goodness sake. Apple started things off with the iPhone 6 and Apple Pay, but Google was only a year or two behind with (wait for it) Android Pay. And any phone with a NFC antenna and some form of biometric authentication can now join in the fun. When Windows Phone was designed, back in 2008-2010, the very idea of using NFC for payments was unheard of - Nokia and others had been using the tech to pair phones to Bluetooth accessories, look up NFC tags, and 'tap to share' for years. But the goalposts were about to change again - and, despite numerous rumours, trials and public outings, 'Microsoft Pay' isn't ready. And for Windows on phones it's far too late now, of course. Secondly, compatibility with the Internet of Things (IoT) and smart devices across the world. In the home, at work, in hotels and garages. My eye was drawn by a recent commenter on an editorial here: " has no apps. I cannot use my lights, my heating, my speakers, my watch, Chromecast, my door lock...". Now, since when was it the function of a phone to control all these things? Moving goalposts again... Over the last 12 months, I gather, the pho[...]

The Nokia 8 takes on the Lumia 950

Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:58:05 GMT

No, not the Nokia N8. This is the Android-powered Nokia 8, made by HMD Global, of course, in 2017. But it's still a phone that I've had lots of emails about, so I arranged a shootout over on AAWP here. Now, at some point I'll get the Nokia 8 in here, in the office, and the natural shootout would be Nokia N8 vs 808 vs Nokia 8 - all the 8s....!!! Watch this space.

In the meantime, here's some text from my conclusion:

This was one of the most requested AAWP phone camera shootouts and thanks to KF Chan for helping make this happen. One of the reasons why I'd not moved heaven and earth to get a Nokia 8 in for review yet (though I have been asking PR) was that I knew it would be something of a disappointment. And so it proved. Despite two cameras, OIS and ZEISS optics, HMD Global doesn't have anywhere near the same imaging expertise that the Nokia guys had back in the day (and at Microsoft until they all left or got made redundant), the Nokia 8 has sensors that are too small, no oversampling and no secret sauce (along Google Pixel lines) to rescue the results.

At some point, no doubt, I will get the '8' in for a full review and at that time I can do more head to heads with, for example, the Nokia N8 and 808 from the Symbian world, since those too have been requested. Can 'Nokia' (actually HMD Global) fix up the camera with updates or is the Nokia 8 destined to underperform? Currently I'd class the imaging as not worthy of the prestigious Nokia brand name - as someone who loved the N82, N8, 808 and 1020 before the 950, I hear 'Nokia' and I think 'amazing camera', and this simply isn't the case for the '8'. Yet.

Which would win of the Nokia 8, 808 and N8? That's actually a tougher call since the latter two predated the modern OIS era. So it all depends whether I allowed tripod use. Or had very, very steady hands for the low light test cases!

The Nokia 808 takes on the Sony Xperia XZ1 and the Galaxy Note 8

Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:12:20 GMT

Reader Martin Roth runs a YouTube channel, in part dedicated to comparing camera phones - and he's now put up videos on the Nokia 808 PureView versus the Xperia XZ1 and Galaxy Note 8, both running Android. They're in German, but see below for how to get English subtitles!

Firstly the Nokia 808 versus the XZ1. Maximise the window and then dive into the YouTube player settings - set the 'subtitles' to be 'Auto translate' and then 'English' (or whatever):

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And then the Nokia 808 versus the Galaxy Note 8:

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Comments? The subtitle system makes the videos something of a hard watch, not least because the videos flickered for me as a result, but hey... Some Nokia 808 content - in 2017!

Inside camera phones, and Nokia through the ages

Mon, 11 Sep 2017 07:48:09 GMT

I'd just like to draw your attention to two specific podcast episodes that you might not have been aware of. Both aired in the last couple of weeks on brand new shows and both are of direct interest.

Firstly, Richard Yates is part of the team at a new podcast, 'The TechBox', based in the UK, and in episode 5 he's flying solo but his subject matter is his history with Nokia, the brand, the hardware and the company. Over the last 25 years. 

It's a good listen, with no real omissions as such, though it's assumed that you know some of the tech background, such as Microsoft buying Nokia's Devices division in 2013. Regular readers here will be able to fill in these contextual gaps though. Richard's been through many of the same devices as you and I, so it's refreshing to hear someone else's experience.

And yes, he cover's some of Nokia's mistakes, including not capitalising on their 'app store'. I'd go back further to Nokia's 'Download!' Store around 2005, but Richard's reference to the 'Ovi Store' (2009) only being for Nokia handsets as a 'mistake' doesn't quite ring true as a mistake since by then there weren't really any other Symbian licensees (just one Samsung handset that had much bigger issues). A bigger mistake, also identified, was general mis-management over the decade.

Richard highlights some of my favourite smartphones, in particular the Nokia N93, N8 and - of course - the 808 PureView.

You can subscribe to The TechBox here.

Secondly, I was a guest on Myriam Joire's new 'Mobile Tech Podcast' a few weeks ago, in episode 16, chatting about all aspects of camera phones. The chat was very much driven by Myriam, who wanted to explain in detail the various parameters that make up a good phone camera, but I think I held my own and managed to get in some chat about Xenon flash(!) and some classic Nokia PureView phones, the 808 and 1020. 

Myriam had been a guest on my own Phones Show Chat (now well into its 400s!) several times, so it was good to be invited back by her in return. See what you think. You can subscribe to her Mobile Tech Podcast via the RSS feed here.

An hour of camera phone tech with Steve and Myriam

Wed, 30 Aug 2017 20:31:02 GMT

Just a podcast of interest - or at least a particular episode. I was the guest of Myriam Joire on the Mobile Tech Podcast this week - and, predictably, we chatted about smartphone imaging. For an hour. And could probably have gone an extra hour if time had allowed. We cover some of the past classics, such as the Nokia N8 and 808, we cover the Lumia 1020 and 950, but all in the context of today's Android-powered imaging flagships. And yes, I do mention Xenon. At some length 8-)

Here's the podcast, anyway, worth an hour of your time if you're really into your camera phones!

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We get a bit carried away and sorry for talking at top speed - if it's too fast for you then listen at 75% speed! That's what a little passion does for the recording process....

See also the home page for Myriam's podcast.

Review: Nokia 6

Wed, 16 Aug 2017 06:06:00 GMT

What's this? A review of a smartphone that doesn't run Symbian on AAS? And that doesn't run Windows 10 Mobile on AAWP? Actually yes - it's my first look at the new Nokia 6, running Android. And it's here because it's the return of the classic Nokia brand that I've written about so many times on these sites. The personnel behind it are mostly different, the OS certainly is, but is it worth casting a look in the 'new' Nokia's direction? Probably not, though hopefully this mini-review will be of interest. This Nokia is still designed in Finland, it’s still made like a tank, but the actual firm behind it is HMD Global and all the manufacturing is in China. So take the ‘Nokia’ branding with just a pinch of salt. There's little DNA here from the classic Nokia designs of the past, though some visual clues have been taken from phones such as the Nokia N9 (running Meego, so that's the fourth OS mentioned in the last two paragraphs!), Lumia 800 and Lumia 920.  As a smartphone, the ‘6’ is well styled, I was enormously impressed by how solid it is, with slab aluminium sides and polished chamfered edges. It's heavy too, at almost 170g, almost in phablet territory with a 5.5” screen. The fingerprint sensor, down the bottom, is 100% accurate, but the specification here means that it takes a second from placing your thumb to the Nokia 6 being unlocked and the display powered up. Is a second too long? Not for the target market, though anyone exposed to flagships (think iPhone 7, Google Pixel) will notice a difference. Around the perimeter is a welcome 3.5mm headphone jack, all metal volume and power buttons, a speaker aperture (of which more later) and... a microUSB charging and data port. That’s right - microUSB on a £200 smartphone in 2017, rather than the now ubiquitous USB Type C. It feels very out of place and my theory is that the Nokia 6 design was actually finalised at least 18 months ago, back at the tail end of 2015, when USB Type C was still only on flagships (the Lumia 950 and 950 XL famously launched with this, among the first smartphones with 'C'). The delays HMD Global faced getting the Nokia 6 to market have left it with this single anachronistic spec point. Most users won’t mind, of course, microUSB jacks and chargers are everywhere still - and, to be fair, it’s just about the only major disappointment in the Nokia 6. For the price. On the back is the reassuring ‘NOKIA’ logo, just as on the Symbian phones and Lumias of old, plus a very ‘Nokia’ vertical raised camera island. I suspect that the raising is purely cosmetic, since there’s no reason for this pretty average phone camera to need the extra thickness. I’ll come back to the camera later on. The display is IPS LCD and 1080p resolution. With the RGB stripe (i.e. all pixels represented, unlike on AMOLED screens), the screen is extremely crisp and decently bright, though I noted that contrast levels weren’t brilliant in the sun.  The top earpiece is used as a ‘tweeter’ and piped the left channel for any stereo audio. This is - absolutely - a hack of the highest order. The results when watching Netflix or similar are a definitely imbalance in the sound, with 90% of the volume coming from the bottom firing main speaker and 10% from the earpiece. Much of the time this doesn’t really matter, but just occasionally something’s supposed to be happening in the left channel in terms of music or effects and… you can hardly hear it. With prope[...]

Looking back on 15 years of the megapixel race

Mon, 07 Aug 2017 06:57:45 GMT

I'm a sucker for smartphone retrospectives and also one for photography features. Put the two together and you've got a name-checking smartphone rundown from the last 15 years over on GSMArena that looks at how camera resolutions have changed in our phones. The highwater mark, of course, was the Nokia 808 PureView, from 2012, but the whole 'arc' is an interesting rogues champions gallery.From the GSMArena post: We've traced the rise of the cameraphone before, but since we're in a lull in the megapixel race, we wanted to look back and check the milestones reached along the way to the Nokia 808 PureView - the 41MP monster that (five years later) is still the phone with the highest resolution camera (and only matched by Lumia 1020 since). The Audiovox PM8920 may have been the first to cross the 1MP line with its 1.3MP camera in 2004. Niche brands aside, Motorola brought out the 1000 series phones that same year - the touch-focused A1000, the E1000 bar and V1000 flip. The Windows-powered MPx220 also joined in. Motorola A1000 • Motorola E1000 • Motorola V1000 • Motorola MPx220 Then in early 2005 Samsung unveiled the P850, a flip phone with a rotating screen and a 3.15MP camera. Sound familiar? You may be thinking of the Nokia N90 from a few months later and its 2MP camera (with Carl Zeiss optics). Before the year's end, the Nokia N80 matched Samsung at 3.15MP. And then looking ahead further in the article: There was a brief flirtation with 13MP by Motorola and Toshiba, but Nokia put an end to the debate in 2012 with, yes, the Nokia 808 PureView - one of the best cameraphones of all time. Its monstrous sensor was 1/1.2", the biggest we've seen on a mobile device. To put that in perspective, the sensor was 3 times the size of a 1/2.3" sensor like the ones we see in the Xperia XZ Premium, Google Pixel and a few others. The sheer size of the sensor meant that despite its massive 41MP resolution, pixels were still quite large at 1.4µm (the Nokia N8 was at 1.75µm pixels). But the genius of the phone was elsewhere - mature image processing and leveraging on that resolution to enable high-quality digital zoom for 8MP photos. Advanced image processing is at the heart of the best cameras today. Nokia kept things going for a bit longer, in 2013 it came out with the Lumia 1020 (running Windows Phone). It kept the 41MP resolution, though it shrunk the sensor to a still huge 1/1.5" (pixel size went down to 1.12µm). However, megapixel counts dropped off quickly after that. The rise of resolution according to tech and then the fall again as other methods of achieving results came into prominence (e.g. what I've dubbed PureView take 2) is fascinating. Also of interest might be my own 'Top 10 phone cameras of all time', in which I put the Nokia 808 at no. 4 and the Nokia Lumia 1020 at no. 5. Interestingly, my no. 1, the Lumia 950, isn't mentioned at all in the source article, probably because it focussed (pun intended) on fine tuning the innovations from the previous few years rather than breaking new ground in terms of resolution or pixel size. [...]