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Comments on: Web feed icon trademark, licensing and usage guidelines

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By: - Personal Website of Yakov Shafranovich » Blog Archive » Input Needed for a Story on Mozilla’s RSS Icon and Licensing

Wed, 08 Aug 2007 02:02:19 +0000

[...] o Original OperaWatch story on the Opera/Mozilla argument o Opera’s weekly build release notes discussing the ssue o Mozilla’s trademark filing o Post from Kevin Gerich (one of the two creators of the icon) about the fact that Mozilla MIGHT NOT own the trademark in the first place o Post by Frank Hecker (executive director of the Mozilla Foundation and the person who signed Mozilla’s trademark application) about the mark o Chris Pirillo blogging on the subject o Randy Morin of RSS blog blogging on the subject and a follow up, and another follow up o Post by Randy Morin to the RSS Public list on the subject o Post from Mitchell Baker (head of Mozilla Corp) on the subject, also see this and and this earlier posts o Microsoft’s decision to use the same icon for IE7 and a related post from Mozilla’s Asa Dotzler o Blogger reactions from around the web: here, here, here, and here; and yet here; and here o A blog post from an Opera employee o A blog post at Oreilly’s o A forum post on MozillaZine o On open source leadership [...]

By: ThoBlog

Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:11:08 +0000

Mozilla verlangt Unterschrift für RSS-Icon Nutzung... via Opera WatchMozilla verlangt die Unterzeichnung einer Vereinbarung für die Benutzung ihres RSS-Icon ......

By: Frank Hecker

Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:19:21 +0000

Some quick points: First, the trademark registration for the icon was done at a time when we thought we'd go with a formal trademark licensing program. Mitchell's current proposed approach is not to do such a program (and note that I agree with that approach). Second, I think Mitchell's reference to open source licensing of the icon was in regards to the approach of just doing an open source license and nothing else, i.e., no usage guidelines whatsoever. That's what she referred to as "option 1, and that's what she was arguing against, at least as I understood it. Finally, I'll have more to say on the topic of the feed icon in the next day or two, including posting some proposed usage guidelines. I had meant to blog about this before now, but I've spent the better part of that last two days in hospital emergency rooms. I apologize for any confusion that might have ensued.

By: Patent the baby, trademark the bathwater at FactoryCity

Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:46:19 +0000

[...] I don’t think the question in this case really revolves around the question of the meaning of icons so much as the enforcement and consistent use of symbols that come to mean something to a given community. For what Mitchell is really proposing is something more like reverse trademark, where you compel someone to use your mark in a certain way in order to produce consistency. Let’s face it, by restricting the use of the mark or icon, you’re actually moving away from your goal, which in this case is to establish a symbol, to be used in common, to identify a particular interface interaction. [...]

By: Scott

Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:40:16 +0000

We've backed out the Mozilla RSS Icon from our projects too and replaced it with the old one we had. We were under the impression that all images were under the Tri-License apart from the Firefox logos.

By: ReKourge

Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:26:08 +0000

Exactly. see chrome://browser/skin/livemark-item.png

By: Hmm

Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:43:59 +0000

I wonder if that means Firefox will no longer be distributed in Debian and other such Linux distros. Debian already required as "free software" version which removed the Firefox logo. They'd now have to remove the feed icon as well.

By: Jesse Ruderman

Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:58:13 +0000

Even more confusing is Opera removing the RSS icon from weekly builds. At they said "Regarding the old RSS icon: Mozilla would like us (and other users of it) to sign an agreement on the use of the feeds icon. We fully respect their rights to the icon and will not use it as long as this isn't sorted out."

By: kourge

Tue, 13 Jun 2006 06:19:21 +0000

One thing that horrified me is the overly common use of the ugly, inconsistent orange linear gradient as the background, as opposed to the original radiant gradient.