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What the fuck!... amazing, I no freedom of express...

2011-01-26T12:34:29.558-05:00

What the fuck!... amazing, I no freedom of expression and censorship of the truth about governments on television and the Internet, this world is a sad truth.
Good luck everyone and forgive us children, this is the only world that we can leave to you.



Interesting post. Since I was raised in a predomin...

2007-06-14T14:46:00.000-04:00

Interesting post. Since I was raised in a predominantly Catholic country, I am inclined to support any advocacy campaign that is against abortion. However, I understand that there are circumstances where abortion is the mother's only chance of surviving a failed pregnancy.



I appreciate your generosity in your reading of Fi...

2007-04-01T11:52:00.000-04:00

I appreciate your generosity in your reading of Fish, but I don't think it is so clear. It seems to me that Fish wants to cut politics out of the classroom, including any political perspectives voiced from the instructor or the discipline.

For example, when I teach my policy courses, I make students aware of my own policy advocacy as a professional in my field. They do not have to share my perspectives, but they can hardly see themselves as having a political perspective to advocate if I do not. Further, I offer myself as an example of how to integrate professional ethics with political action.

Further, like other professional fields with a code of ethics and a professional advocacy organization that has a political action committee, social work does require practitioners to base their practice (not their personal beliefs) in elements of the code.

Yes, as spelled out by the complainant, Emily Booker's case seems quite egregious. Yet it is also a problem if students who are going to be social workers, doctors, nurses, teachers, or other helping professionals, just say they will not work with groups of people or support equality of treatment for them. They cannot do their work in an ethical way, and perhaps they should not be in the field.

That is not to say that religion is not also to be respected, and that the same students have to work with people of different religions. And if the elements of the case are as specified, the teachers did make mistakes.

But back to Fish and his point. Having a class write the letter, were they all in agreement, would have been perfectly fine IMHO. It would have been a good practice of advocacy skills--advocating a position that is in accordance with social work ethics and the national professional organization's position on this issue.



I think that you and Fish are actually agreeing, b...

2007-03-31T10:38:00.000-04:00

I think that you and Fish are actually agreeing, but there's some language slippage that's causing problems here (which I noticed in my first reading of Fish's column last weekend). I think this is a matter of teaching the art of advocacy in your course material (as you do) and a particular advocacy as the course material (as in the case Fish is discussing). The former seems excellent and the latter problematic.