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By: Mark

Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:22:17 +0000

Adam-That's a well thought out and interesting point. I think the issue of factory farming is an interesting one, but there is one other main concern there:cost. For foie gras, of course we can't be concerned since it is essentially a luxury item of sorts, but for just regular ground beef where do we draw the line between cost and animal safety?



By: Adam

Tue, 21 Aug 2012 08:59:48 +0000

This forum seems to have interwoven two separate concerns:the principal one of eating an animal or parts of the animal that has been fed by a method that 'seems' cruel and the secondary one of factory farming. It has been explained perfectly clearly that gavage and general animal husbandry[see photos] as practised by artisans in small farms especially in France is not an experience that the ducks or geese find unpleasant so that sorts out the principal point, but gavage and also general animal welfare as practised in a factory situation as clearly shown in Richard's clip[12 April 2012]is utterly horrendous. This sadly seems to apply to almost all forms of factory farming..the animal is nothing more or less than a cost or a unit of investment. Notwithstanding that a farm is also a business, it is also dealing with living beings, which surely should be cared for decently, in a comfortable manner akin to the animals natural environment. This is the issue that seems to disturb many of the anti FG commentators. The protest is more about simple animal cruelty and the animal is going to have a pretty good idea what it finds unpleasant. Let's pay attention to that !



By: Mark

Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:51:37 +0000

I'm not personally a foie gras fan myself but can see the allure, especially if you don't know the food ended up on your plate. More interesting to me is where and who decides where the line is drawn as far as what is cruel and what is not. BTW-I don't think any rational person would compare this to farming, like I do for tomatoes, apples, plums and lemons in my backyard.



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Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:56:48 +0000

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By: Freetruth

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 17:13:23 +0000

You can eat foie gras. But the following line of reasoning is completely flawed (see MOlly above): "If they ever ban foie gras in my state, I’ll farm my own. Man has dominion over animals by virtue of his Reason. This reasoning power enabled Man to invent and perfect the ingenious gavage technique. This invention transforms a not-terribly-tasty bird into a delicacy: magnificent creamy texture and delicious flavor, complimenting other fresh farm foods such as sweet summer fruits." This justifies (a) killing of native populations, (b) Nazism and any totalitarian government, who has access to advanced technologies and exert their dominion of people and (c) killing and disposing of minorities. If mean has Reason, then an immediate consequence is understanding unnecessary pain and their ramifications, even if inflicted in a living being capable of a much smaller set of choices.. . If instead, you claim reason but only satisfy your gut feelings and instincts, than you cannot be a master of Reason. Some people can also claim that human meat is tasty, and use Reason to operate a gun and eat it... Is that Reasonable?



By: Richard

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:22:19 +0000

OK, i'm a vegan (no meat, no dairy), for many reasons and do not judge others for their choices. For those that wish to know where there food comes from, here is a link to a video and a petition about the production of this bizarre food. For those wishing to know where their food comes from I applaude your courage and intellect as most of it is it not pretty, healthy, fair, humane and certainly far from civilised. Try to forget about who is saving the battery hens, the whales and that man is superior so we can eat anything we want because we are smarter etc. I would think that only someone with a serious mental illness could watch all of this video and think to themselves .."ÿeah, this is all cool, its just farming". Maybe all these plants i have been eating have made ME crazy i dont know, but it just seems tremendously barbaric, cruel and unnessacary. Sure eat pate from a farmed bird but this force feeding is from 2500BC and now we are all so civilised that it seems truly wayward. anyway, heres the link....i could only watch up to 2 minutes where they suffocate the female chicks in a garbage bag. (civilised farming). http://www.thepetitionsite.com/10/we-the-undersigned/ Good luck with all of your lives, i trust that happiness and peace will prevail in this wondefully weird and strange existence that we call home.



By: frais

Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:37:44 +0000

Hello What a lovely post. I would add a comment to your caution, in the beginning of the post : in France, these pictures don't potentially disturbe ! We are used to see that, because we can see gooses growing in the Farm. Best Wishes from France ! Marie



By: Alison

Fri, 27 May 2011 03:47:00 +0000

Thank you for the article. I eat foie gras on occasion but i have know clue they shoved a tube down their throats. It is food for thought and i may stop eating foie gras.



By: Seriously?

Fri, 22 Apr 2011 03:41:46 +0000

"In a recent studies, scientists have discussed that plants feel pain. How is this different from any other living organism? It’s not." - did someone really wrote that???? Jesus... What kind of study was that? Someone needs a biology lesson. First of all, plants do not have central nervous systems, so they cannot feel pain. They do not have the capacity to escape animals (including humans) who would eat them, so what would the purpose of being able to feel pain be? If you cannot tell the difference between a carrot and a cow or parsnips and a pig, really, go back to school. Second, the animals carnists like you consume have to eat something. YOU, little troll, are responsible for the deaths of far more plants than vegans are because it takes several pounds of plant food to produce a pound of animal food. Anyone who doesn't see the difference between slicing open a tomato and slicing open a dog is extremely disturbed.



By: Hmm

Fri, 22 Apr 2011 03:24:28 +0000

For the one who said this method was alright for him: let's insert a tube deep down your throat until your liver and see if that's alright as well.



By: duck foie gras

Fri, 01 Apr 2011 22:43:11 +0000

I think that foie gras production (duck foie gras or goose foie gras) is not more crual as veal or chicken production ... so where are protesters for veal and chicken liberty ?



By: Marc

Wed, 12 Aug 2009 04:01:40 +0000

From the article: "The food is corn, starchy, empty calories good for fattening he said. This stands in contrast to the balanced diet that the geese received while they were outside." In other words: the shoving of corn down the throat (literally in this case) of yet another animal so humans can consume more junk calories a little higher on the food chain. For all of the comments mocking American meat in the comments above, any distinction seems trivial at best. If mankind is so content on becoming even more obese eating unnecessary, excessively calorie dense foods, why does he need to exploit other animals to get there? Let's leave the poor ducks alone and get to work on converting our corn surpluses more directly to a foie gras flavored twinkie if this stuff is so desirable. While other forms of meat production may be worse in scope and perhaps even more worthy of continued criticism because of it, foie gras deserves its own status as an easy target for both criticism and legislation. Its egregiousness is hard to miss for the animal activist existing in more than just those who hold signs outside of restaurants.



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Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:13:25 +0000

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By: Adam

Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:48:34 +0000

then pass me your slice... old boy !! And pour me a glass of Monbazillac,,have one yourself too !



By: Jos

Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:24:57 +0000

I've stopped eating foie gras. I refuse to encourage such a practice.