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A fair question to ask, which it appears no one is...

2010-10-01T15:42:39.141-04:00

A fair question to ask, which it appears no one is willing to ask or answer here, is "Which is/or can be more secure - SMT with NetApp or a vBlock with security integration IP provided by Acadia? I would add the Oracle VM stack, though targeted to different workloads, to the comparison to make it interesting. To get to the answer, we need a feature/feature comparison and a risk profile,



I'm not sure where you get the idea that the V...

2010-07-30T12:45:10.116-04:00

I'm not sure where you get the idea that the Vblock comes preconfigured and ready to go out of the box. That is definitely not the case in my experience. The Vblock is a BOM that you order yes, but then you have to put it all together. In reality, the SMT deployment guide could almost be used as a workbook for how to deploy a Vblock, with the exception of the storage of course. As I



(Cisco employee) Vblock and SMT are two different ...

2010-07-08T06:50:49.164-04:00

(Cisco employee)
Vblock and SMT are two different pieces of the DC architecture. Vblock is an integrated compute stack (multiple options with associated scale ranges exist). Obviously, that stack needs to be connected to the rest of the world via some networking component. SMT is a reference architecture for a DC pod that uses an integrated compute stack (with NetApp storage and Vmware



I might make an actual technical point some day......

2010-07-07T22:40:46.791-04:00

I might make an actual technical point some day....but right now I almost consider my Mac more flexible/robust/deeper (take the whole unixy side) than Windows. I'd say what you might be looking more for is iPhone vs. Android (although the iPhone polish might not play in here as much).



@Brian - All good points! I admit I took some &qu...

2010-07-07T15:16:18.307-04:00

@Brian - All good points! I admit I took some "artistic liberty" with the name. If I call it a VCE Vblock many still don't know what they means per se. I call it an EMC Vblock and people notice on Twitter. Sorry, just wanted to drive SEO traffic to the site :)

When I first wrote the article I did reference it as an EMC Vblock and actually went back and changed



Aaron - Nice write-up as always. Couple points of ...

2010-07-07T14:48:13.749-04:00

Aaron - Nice write-up as always. Couple points of clarification:

1 - It's not "EMC Vblock", it's "VCE Vblock". I understand that some people want to make the distinction about the storage component, but it's actually about the overall level of commitment to the entire solution. Ordering, support, 3rd-party integration, etc.

2 - Your comments



Hello Roger, Check out http://www.virtualizationp...

2010-07-07T14:37:26.827-04:00

Hello Roger,

Check out http://www.virtualizationpractice.com/blog/?tag=secure-multi-tenancy for what I have to say on the subject. The 2nd post I believe holds my current working definition...

Best regards,
Edward aka Texiwill



Thank you everyone for the great comments! @Mr. D...

2010-07-07T14:03:56.184-04:00

Thank you everyone for the great comments!

@Mr. Dowson, Thank you for taking the time to come by and leave a comment!

@Vaughn - I didn't know that, that you for adding the information

@Texiwill - Edward, I figured you'd be commenting on this one. Thank you! ;)

@Roger - Thank you, I was looking for that link when I wrote this but couldn't



By the way, for the experience users or architect,...

2010-07-07T12:51:06.352-04:00

By the way, for the experience users or architect, VCE may come in to the picture as for marketing and simplified the process of purchase, but in reality, I believe the sizing of each individual VM will be different from time to time. Example here as a vm can consume up to TB of storage, which the next VM can be only require 100GB of storage, vBlock had predefine the number of VM with the config



[Disclosure - NetApp employee] Edward: I'm cu...

2010-07-07T12:49:18.703-04:00

[Disclosure - NetApp employee]

Edward: I'm curious what your definition of secure multi-tenancy is.



Just a note - you linked to the CVD design guide f...

2010-07-07T12:47:26.350-04:00

Just a note - you linked to the CVD design guide for SMT. The CVD deployment guide can be found at http://www.netapp.com/us/media/cisco-validated-deployment.html



Hello, SMT is a 'stack' that is about car...

2010-07-07T12:26:46.605-04:00

Hello,

SMT is a 'stack' that is about carving up storage and paths to the storage. Not really about 'security' per say not anymore than a VBlock is btw. Neither provide Secure Multi Tenancy.

Edward Haletky aka Texiwill



[NetApp employee - full disclosure] Aaron - I thi...

2010-07-07T12:18:11.958-04:00

[NetApp employee - full disclosure]

Aaron - I think you;ve hit the nail on the head. Customers need to decide do they want to buy pods/blocks or build a flexible architecture.

One seems to say 'fit your business to the architecture' where the other is 'scale your architecture based on business needs'.

Did you know that SMT is fully supported with



Interesting analogy, since Phil Harris & I are...

2010-07-07T11:52:51.088-04:00

Interesting analogy, since Phil Harris & I are both Mac users...

Our intention was to make end-to-end reference architectures (i.e. application templates for Exchange, SAP, etc) based on generic building blocks that are differentiated by software functionality, not hardware. An example is the SAP announcement - see http://www.sap.com/press.epx?PressID=13294

We



What if Vblock is just an interim solution for Cis...

2010-07-07T11:06:27.206-04:00

What if Vblock is just an interim solution for Cisco?

What happens when Cisco buys ______? <-- insert storage vendor here. Then it'll be a Cblock.