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Published: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 06:26:44 +0000

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Will Daily Kos Be Kept Separate From Vox Media?

Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:24:35 +0000

I know Markos is a co-founder of Vox Media and a founder of Daily Kos.  Are they entirely separate? Vox Media is a “Unicorn” start-up with a valuation of over $1B, over $100M in annual revenue and many influential outside investors, whereas Daily Kos is a small business funded by its users.   As a result, Daily Kos is independent and relatively immune to outside pressure, whereas Vox Media has investors to protect and therefore is not as independent.

Is Markos committed to keeping Daily Kos outside of Vox Media, thereby preserving its independence?  Has he ever spoken on this issue?  Thanks for your attention to my question.

Please Credit the Original Source for Your Blog Posts

Mon, 19 Feb 2018 23:46:12 +0000

Imagine an investigative reporter at say the Washington Post. They have been working on a blockbuster investigative story for months. They have slowly pieced the story together by months of patient investigative reporting work. They have written the story up, knowing the story will get high readership, so they put considerable effort into the writing. Then the story is published.

Everyone is a blogger these days, including reporters at newspapers. The New York Times will probably report, in a second hand way, that the Washington Post has published a blockbuster news story. The New York Times story will tell New York Times readers a little about what the blockbuster Washington Post story said.

Now imagine that a blogger at Daily Kos cuts and pastes three paragraphs, attaches a title and a tag, and hits the publish button. But using the secondary New York Times story for the cut and paste, not the original Washington Post. “Breaking: New York Times Reports Blockbuster Stuff,” the blog post title says.

This practice is, for one thing, unfair to the investigative reporter who put considerable effort into developing and writing the blockbuster story. They should get the credit for their work.

It is also inaccurate.

It also doesn’t let Daily Kos readers assess the credibility of the story using information about the general credibility of the source.

It also probably means that the blogger didn’t really read the news story they are blogging about, at least not with any care. If they had carefully read the second hand New York Times story they are blogging about, they would have noticed and clicked on the link to the original Washington Post.

And the blogging practice also does not meet the writing standards expected of American sixth graders.

The blogging practice doesn’t meet the writing standards expected of American third graders, really. Third graders are not allowed to just cut and paste three paragraphs from a New York Times article, put the title “Breaking” on it, and turn it in.

But the blogging practice does not meet sixth grade standards in a specific and interrelated way. 

American fifth graders write from “sources, ” and must be able to provide “a list of sources”. In a developmental increase from the fifth grade, sixth graders work from “credible sources”:

Support claim(s) with clear reasons and relevant evidence, using credible sources and demonstrating an understanding of the topic or text.

And they must provide “basic bibliographic information for sources.”

Gather relevant information from multiple print and digital sources; assess the credibility of each source; and quote or paraphrase the data and conclusions of others while avoiding plagiarism and providing basic bibliographic information for sources.

Working from credible sources, assessing the credibility of sources, and providing basic bibliographic information for sources so credibility can be assessed, are an interrelated set of skills that American sixth graders are expected to master.

Get to know one another: Reveal what you want to about yourself and share your favorite joke.

Sun, 18 Feb 2018 23:44:16 +0000

We used to have these meta diaries pretty often, back when people’s time on board was more easily shared along with other info. People would stop in and share what, if any, info they wanted...i.e. why and when they joined the GOS, and share other information that they wanted to about themselves.

I thought we might benefit from another such diary. So in this diary please share as much, or as little, about yourself as you would like.

Most of my diaries are about entertainment/humor, Jewish issues, gay issues and health issues. I came on board in 2008 right before Obama was elected the primary winner over HRC. I live in metro Detroit and spend almost as much time in the hospital as I do at home...ugh.

So….how about yourself? 

My favorite joke at the moment?

A man walked in to a bar after a long day at work. As he began to drink his beer, he heard a voice say seductively "You've got great hair!" The man looked around but couldn't see where the voice was coming from, so he went back to his beer. 
A minute later, he heard the same soft voice say "You're a handsome man!" The man looked around, but still couldn't see where the voice was coming from. 
When he went back to his beer, the voice said again "What a stud you are!" The man was so baffled by this that he asked the bartender what was going on. 
The bartender said "Oh, it's the nuts--they're complimentary."

I agree. It is time to call BS...

Mon, 19 Feb 2018 01:53:22 +0000

... And not just on the endless Republican self-centered policies that, by design, serve and strengthen their own interests at the expense of all others, and therefore weaken democracy.  For most people it is not possible to understand how so many have gone so far, in lock-step, from the center, from reason and even from their own (claimed) values that originally  justified their beliefs and policies. Regardless of the issue, whether it be guns, gays, race, religion or etc... The goal posts have been and continue to be moved so far afield in the unending quest to "win", absolutely, by any and all means, that, quite simply they are no longer on the same field or even playing the same game. One day, maybe not soon, but there will be a day that they will run out of things to look forward to and will be forced to look back. By that time, whether there is anything left to see, is hard to say.  But at this time, there still is. And as much as we each and all have to go forward and do what we can in the ways we believe to be the best, at this time, so too (as unequivocally proven by the alternative described above), we must also, always, look back. For all the reasons why it is necessary to know where you are and how you got there, to know how best to proceed. (and of course also, at least periodically, to likewise be sure you can still see the goal posts). I have been reading this blog daily for at least 18 years. I haven't written a diary for at least 10 and it was so long since I logged in to post that I didn't even have the email address to recover my password. But, for whatever reason, I remembered it today.  I know my writing skills pale in comparison to the countless many here that amaze me daily both in content and clarity of expression of issues that are what affect us all. There are more authors on this blog than I can count that I constantly look forward to reading their next post. And so too are there so many who are new, or just write a few, that have, over the years, been just as informative and important.  I do not expect this diary to be either, as it really is about nothing more (at least to me) than common sense and respect.   So, that brings me to the purpose of this post. Of course I call BS on all that is obvious, of which most here will agree. But this is something less obvious, but not any less BS...  ... What (I feel) needs to be called BS here, daily, in many if not most comment sections, is the unending BS comments by many who get stuck and cannot see past their own point of view and find it necessary, regardless what the topic of the diary is, to devolve the conversation into some rehash of some past finger-pointing, pie-fight, meta (as in pointless) debate over a difference of opinion to (for no other reason I can see) justify their own or score "points" with others who share their view.  I call BS on that BS.  Because, it is. Most recently it was people calling out those that voted for Jill Stein in that diary today, but honestly, (and as I said, I've been lurking here for nearly 20 years), the same BS has been going on and will continue to unless we start calling it what it is. BS.  It is one thing to have an opinion and share it. If not all agree, then it is important, to all sides, to learn why and to discuss what matters to each. It is something else entirely to deride, dismiss and make derogatory comments about another's opinion, or who they supported in the primaries, 18 months ago now, or any other similar regressive BS that does nothing to move the conversation forward, and in fact, it does everything to hold it back.  The truth is, there has been so much of this on this site over the past few years that I firmly believe it was instigated by outside influences for the sole purpose of creating discord and distraction. It is no different than the efforts made to do so on Facebook and Twitter and everywhere else and, unfortunately, it seems it works almost as well on [...]

Watch what and how you say what you say.

Sun, 18 Feb 2018 19:42:51 +0000


I’ve just updated this diary’s title to make sure we’re clear that it’s not about me, it’s about a much bigger picture. Still, though, at least for now, I’ll have to write with circumspection. But if in the coming hours or days you no long see any comments from me, you’ll know I got bloggy death penaltied. 

First of all, if you haven’t yet visited Dieslrea’s still-on-the-Rec-List diary on trolls, I invite and encourage you to do so. The diary-proper, taken together with the comments below it, offer a real-time mobius strip of Spot-Onness. LINK:

Second, within the past hour or two I’ve been twice suspended (or whatever term you wish to use). One or more posses have jumped and flagged comments I’ve made in that diary. 

Third, in order to avoid, or at least delay, an outright ban, I’ll say only this:  back around late March of 2016, once the writing was on the wall that Hillary had the Democratic Party nomination sewn-up, certainly by June, and absolutely by Democratic National Convention-time, I was on board for the presumptive, then actual, Nominee. Period. At least in Democratic circles, there was no, “Yes, but...” crap as far as I was concerned. 

Fourth, the Office of Special Counsel’s Indictment, handed-down about 48 hours ago. If you haven’t read it, I encourage you to. 

Fifth, Dieslrae’s diary.

Sixth, I invite anyone to check out my comment and diary history.

Seventh, I support Democrats. Most of us here do (surprise, surprise). In fact, along with thousands and thousands of other by-God Alabamians (and many out-of-state allies), I worked my ass off for Doug Jones when more than a few D Kosniac’s scoffed at the idea we could win the December 12 Special Election. So there’s that. 😉

Eighth, please see the two screen shots, from The Indictment, posted in the first comment or two below.

Eighth, Dieslrae’s diary...

Daily Kos was hijacked to spread disinformation in 2016.

Sat, 17 Feb 2018 18:26:52 +0000

From yesterday’s indictment of the Russian troll farm by Special Counsel Robert Mueller: 47. Starting in or around the summer of 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators also began to promote allegations of voter fraud by the Democratic Party through their fictitious U.S. personas and groups on social media. Defendants and their co-conspirators purchased advertisements on Facebook to further promote the allegations. a. On or about August 4, 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators began purchasing advertisements that promoted a post on the ORGANIZATION-controlled Facebook account “Stop A.I.” The post alleged that “Hillary Clinton has already committed voter fraud during the Democrat Iowa Caucus.” This confirmation that Russians were pushing the election-fraud narrative in summer 2016 reminded me that this narrative kept popping up around here at that time as well. Most of the time it was smacked down relatively quickly by effective community moderation, which is what has kept Daily Kos a place for consistent high-quality discussion. But there was a glaring exception, one which exposes a major vulnerability of Daily Kos’ system. On July 29th, 2016, about eight hours after the end of the Democratic National Convention, a diary was posted on Daily Kos making accusations of massive election fraud by Hillary Clinton during the Democratic primary. This theory was, and remains, rank CT (if you want to argue about that, please do it elsewhere). Fortunately, in accordance with Daily Kos’ rules of the road banning conspiracy theory and its fantastic community moderation, both Sanders and Clinton supporters (zero pie here, please), responded correctly: the tip jar was flagged. Administration also responded correctly: the diarist was banned. Normally, this would be the end of the story. However, the diary absolutely took off on Facebook. It reached the “Most Shared” list at Daily Kos and thus appeared on the right side of the screen. As Daily Kos users saw this appear in their Facebook feeds, they trickled back to the diary, dragging the tip jar out of the hidden comments and eventually giving the diary an embarrassing 58 recommendations. In the comment section, you can see the dialogue between appalled community members and the people who came back to recommend. The scary part is how far this was spread on Facebook. The indicator of Facebook shares reads roughly 10,000 — but this indicator is glitchy. At the height of the storm, as indicated in a Help Desk thread, this story was shared at least 71,000 times on Facebook, translating into views that are likely in the millions. Every one of those views spread disinformation, and every one of them gave the impression that Daily Kos backed this conspiracy theory. A major caveat: it is difficult to tell whether this diary, and the resulting zombie share-storm, was actually part of the Russian disinformation campaign. As background, the diarist had joined Daily Kos twelve days before and had posted a variety of diaries, some on non-controversial topics, some on more controversial topics such as the WikiLeaks/Russia dump of hacked DNC emails. Each diary consisted of a link, a block quote, and either zero analysis or one line of it. The diarist did engage in the comment sections, at least marginally. So although some of this may seem a bit suspicious, useful idiocy seems as good an explanation as direct Russian trolling, and absent administrative evidence such as IP addresses, it seems unlikely that we will ever know. However, it is unquestionable that this diary spread disinformation that aligned perfectly with the objectives of a hostile foreign power’s attack on our electoral process. And it did so in the name of Daily Kos. So I call for site administration to make whatever changes are necessary to close this serious loophole in community moderation. We cannot let this happen again. [...]

Meta, Language, and Politics: Waking Up

Sat, 17 Feb 2018 03:35:44 +0000

I’m a liberal. I mostly credit Robert A. Heinlein with that, conservative and curmudgeon though he was. He was responsible for the first aliens I encountered being green, after all. I was eight, I think, when I found Space Cadet in my school library. And folk music, which I hit in my early teens and never quite got over. Conservatives have a hard time with folk music, I find. Especially when it doesn’t like them, which it mostly doesn’t. I ignored politics for almost 60 years. It was easy, simply because I was busy with other things; for instance, trying to meld linguistics, psychology, and engineering problem solving techniques (more on that later — maybe). Then along came Barack Obama. I’m still not sure why that made a difference, but, in no particular order, I found JED’s site, The Field, Huffington Post, and [small trumpet fanfare] Daily Kos. I was the perfect definition of a long-time lurker: four comments and one diary through 2009, three years of reading and reccing without commenting, 29 comments including one Tip Jar in 2012. (I’ve never before gone back to look at those first few years, so it was interesting to check that out. Only a couple of hours lost reading through….) And when I finally started doing regular diaries, mostly I stuck to meta. Why? Because even after lurking and voluminous reading over four years — an immersion course in Democratic politics —  I had trouble with understanding the pie and the long-held grudges, and half a dozen other minor points. So I concentrated on site meta (see Pie & Meta Lovers Anonymous 2013/14 list) and on asking questions, rather than trying to provide answers. At some point, though, it’s got to be time to think I have at least a few answers. That doesn’t mean I’m going to go very far from Meta, but it does mean that there’s lots of stuff that’s been percolating in the back of my head for a while now, that I’d like to see what kind of response I get if I put it out for everyone to fight over see. So I’m going to try to do just that. Just off the top of my head, it includes things like: What’s the real meaning behind the GBCW — an analysis of grumblings about what Daily Kos “has become.” Toward cutting the knot/paradox that is the concept of Self Worth Why, and how, politics slips over the line into faith, and how to separate the two — and whether that’s a good idea What does morality mean when you’re talking politics? Corruption? Is radical feminism just the flip side of patriarchy? What positive outcomes, and for whom, exist for continuing to relitigate 2016, considering that I have yet to see anyone change anyone else’s mind by doing it? Nobody here wants to talk seriously about overpopulation, and I don’t blame them. Can we at least list the pitfalls of trying it? Privacy, secrecy, and the perils of transparency (a reprise and continuation of my original diary from 2013) Should we be considering that the women we tend to revile — like Betsy DeVos or Kellyanne Conway — might in fact be abuse survivors? “Tribalism” has become a first class excuse for not actually sitting down and trying to solve problems that involve people we don’t like. Can I come at it sideways enough to get through to those people who blame it and keep going to another problem? (Thanks to Joy of Fishes comment, below) This diary is meant as an invitation to anyone who wants to see me attempt/fail at trying to come up with something readable on these topics, or others. Which of these shall I take a crack at next, or do you have your own favorite WTFs that you’d like to see added to the list? Feel free to pick your favorite(?) or add a new one in the Comments. I’ll make the same request again each time I do one of these, so let the concept stew on the back burner if the request doesn’t bring up any possibilities. [...]

Daily Kos World of Warcraft Update: Support Santiaga!

Thu, 15 Feb 2018 18:00:33 +0000

Standard disclaimer: Leave your loathing of meta, World of Warcraft, or community diaries outside. If you think we should be playing your MMO instead, start a guild and write a recruitment diary. Don't leave a comment here and then get all hurtful when it isn't received with flowers and candy.This goes double for people coming in to attack guildies over other diaries or comments - STAY OUT! Link to your recruitment diary is OK though.

Standard dvertisement: Wreck List is the Daily Kos World of Warcraft guild. We are Horde-side on the Garrosh server. We're getting close to the membership cap, so we'll have to put you on a waiting list if you want to join. To get on the list, read this diary and visit the Guild web site.Yes, you have to be Horde. No, you don't have to be hardcore -casuals, PvPers, and people that just want to hang out on guild chat are all welcome.

More below the fold:

Question about #Recommended and #community

Mon, 12 Feb 2018 18:13:19 +0000

I figured out that #recommended is an honor bestowed on the moderators.  Is the same for #community?  I used that as a tag.  I noticed a few minutes later that I lost my #recommended tag.  Did I do something wrong or was that just coincidence?  For instance, I want to tag this #community because it is a question for the community.  Can I do that?

Hey Markos, put someone on your staff to explain the federal government

Mon, 12 Feb 2018 09:12:35 +0000

Or just assign the topic to someone who you already have. There was just a huge increase in federal spending, after years of constrained budgets. I follow politics quite closely, and I honestly don't know what that means. It seems like it should be a huge news story with lots of details, but all the articles here and elsewhere seem to focus on the politics and ignore the details.

There should be a weekly Front Page feature that spells out the budgets (with fun pie charts and all) of all the federal agencies, down to the most granular line item. I'm thinking of a department or agency a week with an occasional post on the overall federal budget.

I don't see this sort of fundamental explanation of what's going on with government in any media outlet, this one included. Occasionally there are issues that get into the weeds, but there is no easily accessible foundation of knowledge and information. This site does great work compiling disparate political news and events. A basic educational element, just to sketch out exactly what we are all fighting about beyond personalities and buzz words, should not be too much of a heavy lift.

If you need to hire someone to do this job, I humbly submit that the new president of Harvard's signature is on my diploma ;)

When Men (#NotAllMen) Want to Really, Really Insult Other Men, The Strangest Thing Happens...

Sat, 10 Feb 2018 21:14:56 +0000

… they compare them to women.

“He’s such a pussy.” Remember that one, with all its multitudinous variations? And the best argument I can remember so far; that pussy is just being used as a short form of pusillanimous, and is not sexist at all. Or that it simply means “sissy,” and that isn’t sexist, right? (Sorry, but no. Sissy=effeminate, [unless you’re saying it about a gurrl, when it’s just descriptive. /s])


Warning: Possible Triggers.

A couple of weeks ago several people including myself were discussing the flags we’d thrown at a prison rape “joke,” and somebody wondered, for the umpteenth time, why people kept doing them. It took me this long to come up with a title that wouldn’t immediately come up against internet filtering systems. Plus, I needed to be just that extra bit ticked off to start this.

More below the fold.


Musings on manure…

Wed, 07 Feb 2018 16:38:10 +0000

First, the joke:

Harry Truman made a speech at the Washington Garden Club. He gave credit for his beautiful flowers to the good "manure" he used to fertilize them. The prim and proper ladies didn't think much of the President's repeated use of the word "manure."
One of them said something to the First Lady, Bess Truman.  She asked Bess if she could make him stop using the word "manure."  It was a vulgar word in their opinion, and he was, after all, the President of the United States.
Bess replied, "Heavens no! It took me twenty-five years to get him to say 'manure.'"

That particular substance goes by many names. They can be roughly ranked in a scala stercore by the force and direction of their connotations: shit/crap, feces, stool, poop, scat, and manure or muck. Shit or crap are wholly negative: the smell! the color! the gluey adhesion! (by the way, is one worse than the other? Is this dependent on regional variation?)

Feces by contrast is strictly objective: no notion of good or bad, simply observing the passages of nature. Stool  is a bit more engaged: nurses need to notice it as well as other bodily outputs, so it needs a mild, mostly neutral word. 

Poop by contrast is chatty, good for mild irritation, accepting of the daily nature of it. It is even sometimes positive, as parents know. “Has he pooped yet?” may simply be following up on the recovery from an intestinal distress. Scat is both the neutral term of wildlife observers and the hopeful trace for hunters. 

Manure and muck are the most positive and perhaps most truthful of them all. What exits the body is not eternal; it is meant to continue to transform and in its turn become the source of life for something else. Muck, an old synonym for manure, is at the core of perhaps the most trenchant and true passage of political economy:

Above all things, good Policie is to be used, that the Treasure and Moneyes, in a State, be not gathered into few Hands. For otherwise, a State may have a great Stock, and yet starve. And Money is like Muck, not good except it be spread. This is done, chiefly, by suppressing, or at the least, keeping a strait Hand, upon the Devouring Trades of Usurie, Ingrossing, great Pasturages, and the like. 

Francis Bacon

When you’re caught in a shit storm, it’s hard to think of it as manure. But the green shoots are already rising.

Alternatives to pictures of Trump

Thu, 08 Feb 2018 17:18:21 +0000

This is meta, meant mostly for Daily Kos members. Though I suppose some news editors would do well to think about this. Robert Mueller is investigating Trump for… not treason? In a comment on Mark Sumner’s article about Trump calling Democrats “treasonous” for not applauding his State of the Union, Mary Rhubarb O’Brien expressed her dismay at how often Trump’s ugly face appears on Daily Kos: DJT is so twisted, backward, and narcissistic, that he thinks that if you love the U.S.A., you have to love him, that the country and himself are synonymous, and that if you don’t applaud him, you are a traitor. ... Please stop showing his face so much in the DK. I’d rather look at kittens or flowers instead. I feel your pain, Mary. We see Trump’s ugly face quite often enough on TV as it is. But how often would photos of kittens or flowers be relevant here? If you can make it relevant outside PWB Peeps, go for it. Alec Baldwin as Trump. Trump is a threat to democracy and to human survival in so many different ways. We have to write about him. With his being the focus of a particular post, it only makes sense that the photo below the headline is a photo of him. There are other options for relevant photos. For example, if the article is about Trump and one other person, maybe opt for a photo of the other person by himself or herself. Like for example, Ivanka Trump. Her ugliness is spiritual rather than physical, so if you’re writing about her and her father, better go with a picture of Ivanka by herself. I know about the photo of the two of them with both of them making the goldfish mouth. I think that photo has been used often enough here on Daily Kos. Though I suppose it would be the most relevant photo if the topic is “Like father, like daughter.” Hell, even a photo of Mitch McConnell with his George Lucas neck would be preferable to any photo of Trump. If you’re writing about Trump’s treason but mention Robert Mueller only in passing, it might still be a good idea to use Mueller for the lead photo. TRUMP_BALD_WREDNOSE.JPG should come up when you do a Daily Kos image search for “Trump red nose.” Another option is to use photos of comic actors portraying Trump, like Alec Baldwin on Saturday Night Live. Photos of protesters dressed as Trump are another good option. But if you absolutely must use a photo of Trump himself, maybe try to make him look respectable. For example, with no hair and a big red nose, Trump almost looks like a decent human being. As people read about the awful things he has said and done, it will be clear that he is in fact NOT a decent human being. Please comment with other options for photos when writing about Trump. [...]

Pie Powwow: Friends and Allies

Tue, 13 Feb 2018 16:05:06 +0000

We don’t have to like our allies. There are plenty of Dems I wouldn’t want to have dinner with. These days I’d rather chit-chat with Nicolle Wallace or Steve Schmidt or Michael S. Steele or David Frum or Jennifer Rubin or Max Boot, because I like how they’re currently speaking the truth, crisply. Much more palatable than, for example, those in my own party famous for their sweeping, holier-than-thou, attacks on institutional Dems. I know I should feel simpatico with them, since their vision of society is so much more in sync with mine than any Republican. But distaste for one’s allies can ratchet up extra quickly when they fail to live up to our expectations. It’s like when you meet someone who you assume, through social cues, is an attractive fellow liberal, only to discover an Infowars bumper sticker on the back of his Prius. Talk about ruining your appetite. In the spirit of the 1992 pop-sensational best seller, Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus —  a conceit, ostensibly, for “improving communication and getting what you want from your relationships” by “understanding and respecting the differences” — I suggest reading through a recent robust discussion hosted by SlateStarCodex about another fanciful, political, binary: “Conflict Theorists” vs “Mistake Theorists.” * I’d already been wondering whether our pie fights here are fueled, not by our differences, so much as by the mistaken sentiment that we have more in common than we actually do. We feel like banging our heads against the wall when we pretend everyone here is basically the same as us — Why are they behaving so damned misguided and ignorant?? Whereas, if we enter the conversation with the knowledge that we are from different planets we may be more likely to enjoy the fruits of collaboration and compromise, as political and cultural allies should. The criteria for choosing lifeboat companions are not the same as for choosing dinner companions. Here’s a proposed summary of our different tendencies, cribbed in part from the SlateStarCodex debate. It’s not meant to be definitive, or true, and it’s prejudiced by my own “mistake theory” bias. I offer it simply as a jumping-off point for discussion. Progressives** (Mistake Theorist, Liberal, Incrementalist, Technocrat, Pragmatist) Revolutionists (Conflict Theorist, Progressive, Marxist, Anti-institutionalist, Idealist) Politics is science Politics is war Debate is essential Moral struggle is more essential World is incrementally reformed by more shared information World is revolutionarily improved by shared passion Embraces enlightened elites Distrusts all elites Racism is mainly ignorance Racism is mainly a battle for dominance Revolution is nihilistic Technocracy is death by a thousand cuts Distrusts populism Wants to harness populism Favors diplomatic, negotiated resolutions Favors winner-take-all resolutions Believes in pragmatic collaborations of convenience (parties, unions, etc), even when imperfect Believes moral collaborations of a united vision are necessary to overturn corrupt institutions Believes revolutionists are mistaken Believes incrementalists are the enemy [...]

Updated 5x: Goal Met! Urgent: Onomastic in the hospital; needs our help to get home

Thu, 25 Jan 2018 19:38:36 +0000

Onomastic suddenly collapsed in a train station on her way home from a visit here, and was rushed to a hospital where she’s now in ICU.  I only have the roughest of details, but it appears her heart stopped briefly.  The information I’m getting right now is that she’s got an electrical issue with her heart (I don’t want to throw clinical terms around, because the information I’m getting is unclear).  They’re checking now to see if there are also blockages; we should know more about that later today or tomorrow.  These would require a stent (or stents) — or possibly even bypass surgery.

Meanwhile, she’s in a hospital several states away from her home, and transferring her back to Maine will cost $3000.  For that money, it oughta be a limo, not an ambulance, but… hey.

So I’m appealing to you all to help raise the money to get her home, where her care will continue to be excellent, and she’ll be with her family.  Her two daughters traveled to be with her for now, but she needs to be near home.

Can you help?  People heal better when they’re surrounded by loved ones.  Anything and everything you can do will go toward that trip back up to Maine.  No contribution is too small.   They can be made through PayPal.  If you private message me, I will send you the PayPal account e-mail.

Ono, even facing crisis, pokes her tongue out at Fortune                   

In her entire tenure here at Daily Kos, Ono has dedicated herself to helping and raising funds for others.  It’s our turn to give back to her.

Thank you all in advance.  You are, as always, the very best.

What topics do you like to write diaries about? Meta about you and your writing.

Tue, 23 Jan 2018 05:27:54 +0000

I enjoy the diaries of many on here. In fact if I were to write a diary about my favorite authors I would be too afraid that I would leave someone off.

So instead of going in that direction I thought that I would pose a question tonight about what *your* favorite topics to write about are.

For me, in no particular order, I like to write about:

Gay News Events

Jewish News Events

Events in Israel

Questions of the day (On any and every topic)

Entertainment Diaries (Movies, music, books and television)

Health topics (About pain, chronic conditions, healthcare system)

And just because if I do not include them as a topic I write about they will give me guilty looks….I ove to diary about the Overlords that own me -— Cash and Cloud.

So what about you? What diaries do you most enjoy writing?

A Note of Thanks on the Video Problem (With a Video, of Course)

Thu, 18 Jan 2018 23:45:44 +0000

Your response to my request for assistance yesterday was staggering. Between the folks here and GF’s Facebook group, I garnered nearly 500 subscriptions to my channel in one day! A little more scrounging and begging and I should easily top the “Don’t Be Evil” people’s new requirement of a thousand subscribers by next month.

Since you all were so very kind, and since many expressed admiration for my pal Biscuit in the cover photo, I made a new video for all her fans. Half an hour of her lying around, basically, backed by my complete 1997 album “Erin and Avalon,” a mushy, New Age-y piece that was commissioned by a yoga instructor.

Thank you all so very much for your help. Do enjoy some extreme relaxation with Biscuit.

(If you haven’t subscribed to my YouTube channel already, I’m still about 150 shy of the magic number. And do watch a couple of the vids. I need to generate another 3200 hours of watch time before Feb. 17, another reason I made the absurdly long “Meditation with Biscuit.”)

How important is it that the inarguably racist President said something racist?

Tue, 16 Jan 2018 20:45:03 +0000

I’m smirking, at best, at the real passion that Booker and Durbin are showing around the racist #45 saying something racist. 

Which of the poll options have they had such strong opinions and public firebrand rhetoric about? Which are less important? 

Daily Kos World of Warcraft Update: Argus the Unmaker down!

Thu, 11 Jan 2018 20:44:34 +0000

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Analogy of the day: Imagine if the GOP Was a Patient

Wed, 10 Jan 2018 14:59:15 +0000

So a patient goes in to visit his doctor.

Imagine if that patient was the Republican Party, and the doctor was, well, Life:

Doctor: Do you know why you came in today?

Patient: I have this persistent cough, the right half of my body hurts, this finger is about to fall off from frostbite, I only eat junk food, you are on the verge of amputating my foot due to my untreated diabetes, but I am pretty sure that I have done nothing wrong, and other than all of that I am perfectly healthy!

Doctor: You need to exercise regularly and eat a nutritious diet.

Patient: But I only use my left hand while driving.

Doctor: I am pretty sure those two things are unrelated.

Doctor: You have appendicitis.

Patient: It’s just gas. Just give me two boxes of cheerios and I will be on my way.

Doctor: This is a condition we see everyday and know exactly how to treat. And anyways, the remedy you want does not even help the condition you claim to have, which is wrong to begin with.

Patient: No, I am pretty sure my opinion is more valid than your expertise based on years of training and experience. They better be honey nut.

Doctor: There is a large tumor growing inside of you. We know how to cure it, but you must have it treated right away or it will kill you from the inside out.

Patient: No, I am pretty sure that it is only trying to make me great again.

Patient: Why is my health bill so expensive?

Doctor: Well, you refuse to take the medication we prescribe, or eat the recommended nutritious diet, or exercise regularly. You fail to come in for routine examinations, that would have caught some of your ailments early on so that we could treat them more easily. You only just came in when your condition has deteriorated so badly that only the most aggressive and expensive interventions will work.

Patient: No, I am pretty sure it is because you and your staff who have dedicated your work and lives to helping others are so greedy, and also those other sick people are probably being greedy too.

Doctor: For all intents and purposes, you are a dead man walking. You have taken almost no steps to treat your many ailments. You can reverse the majority of the illnesses without much lasting damage, but you refuse to take any steps on your own. Preventative medicine is about as alien to you as the far side of the galaxy. If anything, you are actively cultivating your illness on a near-daily basis. Basically, your current health regimen is analogous to treating a curable disease with cyanide pills. Any appropriate treatment you do receive will likely come against your will, violently resisting the advice and actions of the experts around you, and will only occur so late that it upends your entire wellbeing, and at great cost to both you and the health system. 


Women's March leaders on Daily Kos?

Sun, 07 Jan 2018 17:30:05 +0000

Yesterday was the 1st day that I noticed a post referring to the January 20th Women's March (January 20th, by janecollins). Granted, on a good day, I can check in twice. So there's a lot I can miss. I thought to check to see if there was a Daily Kos group for the Women's March, and my search came up empty.

I did notice three Resistance groups, but would like to see a specific group following & reporting on the activities of Women's March organizers. Last year's March was awe-inspiring!!!, but follow-up activities seemed to happen out of the spotlight. The Resistance and Indivisible are great, and I see the event links posted nightly in the Open Thread for Night Owls. I also see that women are registering to run for office at an historic rate. I would love to see similar engagement from the Women's March.

To that end, are there Women's March organizers, leaders, and/or volunteers participating in Daily Kos? Surely there must be. Would some of you be up for creating a group and working to publish diaries about your upcoming activities? It's a group I'd love to follow. I'd set it up myself, except for the fact that I'm not an organizer, leader, or volunteer in any Women's March chapter, nor am I aware of any of my acquaintances who are.

Thoughts? Roll call?

Daily Kos World of Warcraft Update: Happy New Year!

Thu, 04 Jan 2018 17:24:31 +0000

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Daily Kos is Not Broken: A New Year's Homily

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 00:22:42 +0000

I just saw another of those Daily Kos has Become a Cesspit Because of Something Thoughtless or Offensive in the Comments diaries that always seem to end up on the recommended list.  And at the fringes of the comments, as always, were those eager to pile on in agreement and those who chose to defend the inalienable right to be thoughtlessly (and thoughtfully) offensive in reaction to the very deliberately offensive nature of the current “conservative” base. You read it before.  You’ll read it again.  I suspect diaries of this sort, full of hyperbole as they tend to be, serve a generally positive purpose in the maintenance of the community’s tone.  But there’s a different story about the tone of this community, as expressed in the comments, that I would like to tell. Been here a long time.  Second diary in all that time and I haven’t made a whole lot of comments, either.  I argue, and since the recent electoral unpleasantness I have mostly tilted (I realize it’s a Don Quixote exercise, or at best Sir Palamedes) at those waves of coordinated disinformation and false identification that have become one of the regressive right’s preferred weapons.  But this story isn’t about me.  It’s about the Daily Kos community, as expressed in the comments. A couple months back there was some new step in the slap-fight between the occupant of the White House and morning show host Joe Scarborough.  The Occupant and a coordinated social media wave attack tried to swamp the clear and present danger of a morning show host with the suggestion that the morning host was involved in coverup, murder, and was perhaps the murderer himself.  In this attack they arrayed, in their hateful multitude, an article that “proved” their barrage of innuendo to accusation was not just a new conservative smear. xThe “unsolved mystery” if anyone is not aware. 👇The Ugly Story in Joe Scarborough's Political Closet— Asa J 🇺🇸 (@asamjulian) November 29, 2017 Over the course of a few hours this link was posted hundreds of times, often pointing out the left-leaning nature of the source.  Sometimes they even made it a joke: xInteresting take on Joe Scarborough and the strange case of Lori Klausutis from far-right Daily Kos.— Sean Billings (@SeanJBillings) November 29, 2017 I started giggling as soon as I saw the first one.  And although yes, I did check (because on very rare occasions passions here do run dangerously high) I knew from that first moment the reply I was going to stick in every one of their timelines: xThanks for spreading this link to your base.  Remember, the comments below to see how REAL AMERICANS should behave when confronted with this sort of garbage.— Benjamin Gibson (@CoastalRoadNine) November 29, 2017 xYes, please follow this link to read the story at Daily Kos.  MAKE SURE to read the comments below, where you will see from liberals how REAL AMERICANS should react when presented with gossipy garbage.  They EVISCERATE the article's writer.— Benjamin Gibson (@CoastalRoadNine) November 29, 2017 It got under their skin so much that they tried to rewrite history to make the comments of this community stop burning. xThe article was written in 2011 when Scarborough was making his living banging on Obama.T[...]

Daily Kos World of Warcraft Update: Last Post of 2017

Thu, 28 Dec 2017 20:28:56 +0000

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We must stop feeding Trump's "fake news" narrative

Sun, 10 Dec 2017 06:16:26 +0000

This diary has been high on the Rec list since Saturday morning: Orange guy draws hundreds to his cult rally in Pensacola The only problem is that it’s not true. It wasn’t the diarist’s fault. The diary was based on an AP report that was posted to a Sinclair-owned television station, WEAR. Trump did not “draw hundreds.” While the arena was not “packed to the rafters” as Trump claimed, the photo circulating on social media was from earlier in the evening, long before Trump appeared and most of the audience members were in their seats. Dave Weigel, a reporter for the Washington Post, tweeted (on his personal Twitter account, not his work Twitter account) photos showing a nearly empty arena based on these erroneous reports and images that were making the rounds on social media. Now, Weigel is being bashed by Trump and his followers for the mistake. Weigel has been forced to apologize: Weigel said he took the tweet down after Daily Mail political editor David Martosko told him he had gotten it wrong. "Sure thing: I apologize. I deleted the photo after @dmartosko told me I'd gotten it wrong. Was confused by the image of you walking in the bottom right corner," he tweeted. Weigel is a veteran reporter. He should know better. I don’t fault the diarist here necessarily. The story came from a television station run by right wing Sinclair Broadcasting, via AP. Still, the story didn’t ring true for me. I watched a bit of the rally last night and the crowd seemed rather large. It took me about three seconds on Google to find numerous reports that contradicted the “hundreds” claim, as I and several others pointed out in the comments section of the diary. Yet people went right on reccing it, and the diarist never updated the piece to highlight the error. This false report comes one day after CNN was forced to correct its story about an email sent to Trump, Jr., as The New York Times details: CNN Corrects a Trump Story, Fueling Claims of ‘Fake News’ CNN on Friday corrected an erroneous report that Donald Trump Jr. had received advance notice from the anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks about a trove of hacked documents that it planned to release during last year’s presidential campaign. In fact, the email to Mr. Trump was sent a day after the documents, stolen from the Democratic National Committee, were made available to the general public. The correction undercut the main thrust of CNN’s story, which had been seized on by critics of President Trump as evidence of coordination between WikiLeaks and the Trump campaign. It was also yet another prominent reporting error at a time when news organizations are confronting a skeptical public, and a president who delights in attacking the media as “fake news.” … CNN’s erroneous scoop, about the email to Donald Trump Jr., rocketed around cable news and social media on Friday morning. But it fell apart after The Washington Post reported that the email — which included a decryption key to access hacked documents — was dated Sept. 14, not Sept. 4, as CNN initially reported. WikiLeaks publicized links to the documents in question on Sept. 13. And only last week, the often erratic and untrustworthy Brian Ross of ABC News blew a story on Flynn Flippin’ Friday: Last Saturday, ABC News suspended a star reporter, Brian Ross, after an inaccurate report that Donald Trump had instructed Michael T. Flynn,[...]

I've been a hard*ss about this, and I'm really not sorry about it either

Fri, 08 Dec 2017 14:33:35 +0000

When the news first broke about Senator Franken my heart pretty much sank, and then when later developments showed this news was going to get bigger, it got even worse. I knew then that I felt he should resign, the end. I’ve maintained this stance, despite it being very unpopular from the start, based on the available evidence presented so far by at least eight women. I will not change this stance unless the evidence changes. I don’t want any thank yous for it. I admit fully I’ve been a hardass about this since the beginning, and I admit fully my zero tolerance stance on this issue may even be a bit regressive. People have accused me of being a prude (I most definitely am not), of hating progressive Democrats (nope, wrong), of not caring about the political picture (well, true—I really don't care), and so on, but I’m not ever going to stop being a hardass about this. Here’s why. It started in 2011. I’d just found the online atheism movement, and for the first time in awhile I felt like I belonged. At the time I’d curtailed my activities here, because of the actions and stances far too many took after Prop 8 passed (long story short, a bunch of now former Kossacks revealed themselves to be blithering racists---and they were also wrong). Alas, it didn’t last for online atheism. At the same time Rebecca Watson got on an elevator with someone, who made what she felt was an inappropriate proposition. She publically talked about it, and explained why she was uncomfortable, and why she felt this was inappropriate. Mr. Richard Dawkins responded in a fashion that I can only describe as “lady, get the fuck over it.” But it didn’t end there. Watson got death and rape threats. And then other women began to report their experiences with other men who were (and in some cases, still are) big names in atheism and skepticism—experiences that include date rape. It got ugly—the flame war was one of the ugliest on the internet to that point. The atheism movement split. It’s often not remarked at how secular the Nazi-sympathizing alt-right actually is, well, many of them came out of the split in the atheism community. One would think sci-fi and fantasy fandom would be better. It was not. Rebecca Watson opened up the floodgates. Fandom conventions now have strict policies about sexual harassment. They didn’t always. And predators lurked and preyed. Some were big names---I’ve read stories about the greats like Niven and Asimov, stories that just made me sad. Articles have floated up since about the time Rebecca Watson reported her incident with Richard Dawkins. Here’s one from 2014. I was a nerdy kid who loved science. Still love science. We didn’t have cable and the internet didn’t quite yet exist so my mother subscribed to many science magazines to encourage me. It was here I learned about Dr. Geoff Marcy and his team of astronomers. They confirmed the first exoplanets orbiting the stars 51 Pegasi , 47 Ursae Majoris, and 70 Virginis—planets only inferred by the way they tug on the stars they orbit. Since then we’ve discovered thousands upon thousands of other worlds orbiting other stars, and some of those worlds have the potential to support life in a fashion that’d be familiar to us. I’ve never ever been one to have heroes but Dr. Marcy came pretty damn close so in 2015 when sexual harassment (and worse[...]

Daily Kos World of Warcraft Update: First Wing of Antorus Open on LFR

Thu, 07 Dec 2017 18:16:24 +0000

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Well, it look[s]ed like the DKOS system may have just been hacked - Updt: 3rd party domain in links

Mon, 04 Dec 2017 23:08:49 +0000

I just received an email purported to be from DKOS as follows:

An image in your story [link removed so others will not be able to click on it]  has been removed by its owner and it can no longer be used in your story.  We have replaced the image with a placeholder image.  Please edit the story to replace or remove the image.      

Do not click on the link — I did not — because it refers to a non-DKOS site, for a diary I did not (and would not) write.

I hope others have not received similar emails, but I want to put the warning out their.

Meta inquiry: italicizing titles of Web-only publications

Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:21:08 +0000

This is meta.

The “failing” New York Times and the Washington Post are frequently cited here on Daily Kos. I often cite the Detroit Free Press and the Detroit News, and Forbes, too. Also Crain’s Detroit Business and Motor City Muckraker.

We have the ability to italicize any text we want, and I choose to use that ability to italicize the titles of print publications like the ones I just mentioned. Motor City Muckraker is Web-only, which is why I did not italicize it in the preceding paragraph.

So what about Web-only publications? For example, from 2010 to 2016, I wrote for I have pretty much always referred to it as “” and felt no need to ever italicize that.

Gizmodo and io9 perhaps present a thornier problem. It is my understanding that io9 used to be its own thing but is now part of Gizmodo. Should either of those be italicized? To italicize io9 would to me feel as wrong as italicizing “The Way We Live,” a section of the Detroit Free Press (at least prior to the 1996 strike, I’m not sure about now).

It is understandable for someone to assume that Gizmodo has a print edition like Wired. I italicize Wired because it has a print edition, but when I read a Wired article, it’s almost certainly on the website.

And of course should Daily Kos be italicized? It kinda sounds like the name of a newspaper, but even allowing for Web-only publications to be considered newspapers, it’s kind of a stretch.

I might be making pointless distinctions. Or I might be unaware of a style guideline posted somewhere on this site. Let me know in the comments.

Daily Kos World of Warcraft Update: Antorus is Open. Upgrade your Legendaries.

Thu, 30 Nov 2017 18:25:59 +0000

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Thanks, Y'all

Thu, 23 Nov 2017 14:37:15 +0000

A brief note of thanks to the members and founder of this site. You have made me smarter and more skeptical. You’ve made me crack up and cry. You’ve made me a better writer and a better citizen.

Through times good, bad and infuriating, you’ve been a source of knowledge, humor and wisdom, without which I would have been a lonelier soul. You are like family, except I don’t have to have dinner with you today, which is even better.

Special thanks to Markos for building this virtual asylum. I know you didn’t know it at the time, but you made something really special.

I only wish you’d had a different favorite color.

Love, peace and oyster stuffing.


It strikes me this is maybe a bit scant and too glib for a sincere message of Thanksgiving, so I’ll add the heartfelt message Roy Moore’s campaign strategist Brett Doster sent to the Washington Post when asked for comment on the news that campaign communications director John Rogers had resigned:


The Russian Sex Smear Campaign is Here: Let's Circle the Wagons around our Glorious Dem Politicians

Tue, 21 Nov 2017 17:52:48 +0000

This current brouhaha with ‘sexual harassment’ and ‘inappropriate sexual behavior’ is nothing more than the current fulfillment of the Russian attack against our nation.  Let’s address these so called ‘scandals’ one by one: 1.) Lion of the Senate Al Franken: I won’t bore you with the details, but trusting in the word of an Alt-Right, white supremacist(See Franken’s Accuser # 1) or in the word of a woman, who’s husband voted for Trump (Franken Accuser # 2 ) is ludicrous on the face. #Believewomen doesn’t apply to right wing, white women who are the living embodiment of white supremacy simply by existing and conforming to patriarchal, white, conservative social norms.  Also, the joke picture that started all of this? Come on Now. It’s clearly staged or Photoshopped — look at the myriad of examples of this occurring that took down other Democratic Stallions like Anthony Weiner. Link. Link.  The Russian bots on Twitter are spreading, magnifying and in some case, outright creating these stories. They are feeding them to their many minions in the Press, including MSNBC(Morning Joe and Mika Brzezinski? Brzezinski? Come on now, they aren’t even in hiding!! ) and the vast army of right wing bloggers who are polluting our nation’s social media.  2: Defender of Women’s Rights John Conyers. A storied defender of women and equal opportunity, Conyers is enduring the lash of Mike Cenovich, a neo-nazi twitter ‘personality’ who has ‘ the receipts’ that Congress had to settle a sexual harassment claim by Conyers former, embittered employees. Probably white women. Anyway, Conyers has forcibly denied the claim… as well he should, being on the receiving end of this Russian Ratfucking. Even if true, a few spurned women doesn’t negate the long history of Conyers fight for female equality!!! They our willing martyrs to maintaining the freedom of our Republic. Would someone accused of what he allegedly did, tweet this? I think not!! xOn #WomensEqualityDay, let’s fight to ensure women have the equal ability to participate in the workplace.— John Conyers, Jr. (@RepJohnConyers) August 26, 2017 Other Legends of the Democratic Party have stood accused but remain unbroken: From Ted Kennedy( Was Mary Jo a Soviet Sleeper?) to Bill Clinton, to now anyone the Republicans can find that will distract the sheeple from their own racist, ableist, sexist, patriarchal agenda. We must stand resolute in this era of Trumpist Dictatorship, that we rally the wagons around any Democratic Politicians. We must flood the DNC with donations so that they can bring all of the power of the people to focus on Russia, and heed the words of our greatest President, Barack Obama, when he called out, years ago in 2012, that Russia was oNe of our greatest geopolitical foes! Oh where has that foresight gone? We are trapped in endless circular firing squads, intentionally fomented internal strife, from traitorous Bernie Bros, to Manchurian political wonks like Donna Brazile(Follow the money Perez! It leads right to Moscow!) Now is the time to stand united in the face of all of this. Facebook, Twitter, the news media must be brought to heel, carefully r[...]

This is a disgrace. Have we become Breitbart?

Tue, 21 Nov 2017 01:13:43 +0000

The following are direct quotes from a Daily Kos top-recommended diary, an extremely popular one at that (115 recs in just over 75 minutes), speaking about a woman who has made an accusation of sexual harassment:

I reserved some judgment when she first stepped forward contrary to what my gut intuition was screaming. I did so to appease some of the crazed 3rd wave feminists demanding women are to be believed no matter what, but I am walking that back right now. I do not care what any of them think or say because this isn’t the first time ethnic minorities have been shoved aside in the name of gender politics.

And now, speaking of the person accused:

I do not care how many SJWs get offended by my defense of [PERSON ACCUSED] —you are the same group of women who harassed and dogpiled me via hashtag.

These comments could have been ripped straight from a Reddit thread or some other noxious right-wing forum. Notice the use of “3rd wave feminists” and “SJWs” — these are flat-out right wing talking points. Why on earth are they here?

And why are they being used to go after two women who are making accusations of sexual harassment, just as the right wing would?

Look, I understand. I really do. Al Franken is a good Democrat, and before this all started I was hoping he’d run for president (look through my comment history, there’s proof). It’s natural for us to rally around him, and there’s plenty of legitimate points to make in his defense. For one, what he’s accused of, while bad and not acceptable, is nowhere near what Trump is accused of (which in turn is nowhere near what Moore is accused of), and so the false equivalencies are ridiculous. For another, it’s not clear exactly how bad his behavior was — he’s apologized for the crude, violating photo, but the facts surrounding the rest of the matter aren’t perfectly clear. As is, he’ll likely be able to stay in office unless more shoes drop.

But can we please, please defend Franken without trashing his accusers with talking points straight out of the Breitbart playbook? Because what’s happening in that diary is wrong. There’s no other way to put it.


P.S. Yes, I’m aware that Tweeden is a conservative who holds or has held some truly disgustingly awful views. Fine. Does that mean her accusations are automatically false? More to the point, does that mean the accusations of person #2, who does not seem to be politically active and has contemporaneous documentation of her accusations, are false? 

Come on. We’re better than this.

The Daily Kos Standard for Attribution

Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:07:55 +0000

Here’s a section of a front page entry from yesterday:  Secretary of State Rex Tillerson called Trump a f*cking moron, but check out national security adviser H.R. McMaster: Here’s how the same story was reported by National Security Advisor H. R. McMaster said in a private conversation that President Trump has the intelligence of a kindergartner, according to a BuzzFeed News report citing five anonymous sources familiar with the conversation. Here’s the same as shown by Mediaite: Weeks after that Rex Tillerson-“moron” controversy, McMaster is now the subject of a BuzzFeed report citing five sources saying he “trashed” President Trump: And here it is in the Daily Caller: National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster belittled President Donald Trump at a private dinner, according to a Monday report from BuzzFeed. McMaster reportedly made the comments during a July dinner  The difference?  Only the story in the Daily Kos does not explicitly attribute the news source, Buzzfeed, providing instead an unlabeled link.  As far as I can tell, only one front-pager here regularly put the news source directly in the text, rather than making the reader to follow the link to identify the source.  I would like DKos writers to adopt the citation standards used by other sites.  That practice gives readers a better idea about who’s developing news rather than just echoing the work of others.  It might also encourage some to give the original source some support in the form of views and subscriptions. [...]

Why women/men/girls/boys don't tell

Sun, 19 Nov 2017 18:08:00 +0000

I have been disappointed in this community the last couple of days.  I see that we continue to struggle with the notion that ANYONE can be a sexual harasser, rapist, molester or general asshole.  We continue to struggle with the idea that sexual violence and harassment can occur in any environment.  That situations can and are fluid and complicated.  Prior consent is not a free pass to all future acts. We still struggle with the notion of a “perfect victim” and “acceptable parameters” for us to classify certain acts BAD and others questionable.  We still live with this idea that a “true” victim is a pretty, blonde white woman/girl on her way to church, dressed in her Sunday best who attacked by a stranger dragging her into the bushes kicking and screaming. People who abuse others come in all shapes and sizes.  They are every age, ethnicity, economy range, religion, sex and political persuasion. We especially struggle with how to deal with accusations against people we like or admire. Either we believe people or we don’t.  The pattern seems to be that those who come forward can expect for every life decision, job or affiliation will be scrutinized to the nth degree.  Those accused will have their defenders who are more than willing to wave away bad acts with every good act they have done since they were in the Scouts. “He/She is church going.  They vote the right way.  They champion causes I like.  They are nice to their wife/husband.  I have never seen them do x or treat me like y.” None of that matters.  People can be both a church goer and a child molester.  People can vote on progressive legislation and have a problematic relationship with women.  People can be stars of their fields and still be rapist.  None of that matters. I didn’t tell once.  I told a few times throughout my life.  I told when I was 8 or 9.  I told when I was a teenager.  I told when I was a young adult.  And every step of the way, there was someone to say...BUT he is x.  There was ALWAYS someone.  At sentencing, his fellow church goers wrote letters in support of leniency of his sentence.  This was after a trial where there was a diary he kept that detailed the sexual acts he forced upon children and rated how good they were at it.    We can both be disappointed and condemn bad behavior on our side.  We can approach situations with nuance and appropriate reaction.  Not all situations call for the same outrage but bad behavior is bad behavior. We can not become again the community that questions evidence staring us in the face.  The community that will twist itself into knots tearing apart those who come forward because we don’t like what we are hearing.  We can say this is bad without adding but look over there.   I’m sure there will be other accusations that will disappoint you.  How we react will determine what our values really are?  Are we really interested in cleaning up sexual harassment, rape and child abuse?  Are we willing to support those who come forward?  Or are we only willing to support those who accuse people who we have pre-determined to be the [...]

The Top Half of the Rec List is Diaries Defending Franken

Fri, 17 Nov 2017 06:58:44 +0000


The main issue around Franken and whatever he did in 2006 (and I hope to Goodness it really was an isolated incident, it usually isn’t) - is not about some nefarious Breitbart/Stone/Godzilla plot.

But the diaries belittling what he did and even demonizing the woman, just keep coming. And climbing up the reclist too.

What part of “Every woman goes through harassment multiple times in her life” don’t you get?

#MeToo has released a lot of suppressed traumas. Stories will continue to come out. Some of these will involve male Democratic politicians. Deal with it.

Just this morning there was a reclist diary reminding us how in the late 90s, liberals put partisan expediency over protecting young women. And how we ended up losing on both fronts. Most commenters agreed, “yes, we have a reckoning to do”. Boy that was fast.

Is this because Daily Kos is still majority male?

I hope we do learn at some point.

I'm Bringing A Twitter Debate With Kurt Eichenwald Here. You Are Wrong, Kurt. America Will Rise.

Fri, 10 Nov 2017 02:46:03 +0000

So I had the honor (and I mean that, big fan) of having Kurt Eichenwald respond to me on Twitter today. Kurt was upset that the idea of America he thought he understood is gone.  xWE aren't lost. How can you say that after what happened on Tuesday? Many on the right are standing up against this insanity. I'm a Dem but I see my allies on the right. America has always had horrible people. We rise against them.— This Got Me Thinking (@Speaking_Plain) November 9, 2017 xIt's about more than who wins at the ballot box. It is about who we have become -- hateful, tribal, consumed by emotional reasoning. This is just the ultimate expression of it. We are not Americans anymore. We hate each other more than we care for country.— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) November 9, 2017 It isn’t gone. It just needs to be fought for. NOTHING in America came because we are innately special. It came because good people fought for what they believed was right, often at great risk. We are not divine. We are human. The history of America is ugly. We had a few decent decades of progress but the ugly is back in force. What makes America great is that it rises up against the ugly. It isn’t pretty. It has never been pretty. People will die. People have died. Generation after generation. And yet, still, over centuries, we rise. Because we are Americans. That is just the way it is. Rise. [...]

The Shield is Down!

Wed, 08 Nov 2017 15:29:38 +0000

x x YouTube Video Like many here, I am reveling in last night’s sweeping Democratic victory in elections all over the country. It was a major statement, not just of the determination and dogged efforts of Liberal activists and grassroots organizers, but also of a real repudiation of GOP Trumpism. And, this was an off-OFF-year election, no less, a landscape where the Democratic Party notoriously faces an uphill battle in turnout. Nevertheless — we must not treat tonight as if it were the battle alone on which to declare victory.  In reality, the real battle begins now. For years now, the Republican Party has been implementing a sinister plot to build an impregnable death star of voter disenfranchisement and apathy, capable of destroying the most fortified strongholds of our democracy, with pin-point precision, and devastating lethality. Our only hope, then, is to put an end to their cruel machine, before it becomes fully operational. Last night was just the first battle, in what will most certainly prove to be a long, arduous conflict, of epic proportions. A battle that must be undertaken, if we hope to protect this republic — this galaxy? — from being attacked by such a downright evil machination ever again. Though it was the first battle, one cannot call it insignificant, or an afterthought. Just like taking out the primary shield generators just before a true assault can be initiated, this was definitely one of the most important objectives to achieve in this conflict, if we hope to eventually achieve victory.  And indeed, the alliance of rebellious rabble rousers — that seek to resist the despotic rule of Fear which leads to the Dark Side of hate, anger, and suffering — did not treat it as such. To achieve this objective, it took coordination, planning, and the dedication of a courageous coalition of individuals willing to sacrifice for the greater good, even while confronting some of the most vile and dangerous hate we all have ever seen. And they succeeded! Even in the face of overwhelming odds and firepower, they managed to achieve their objective. And because of their success, it opens up the path to victory for the rest of us. But now the real battle begins. The main force must now do their parts to take down that monolithic space station — oh, it’s no moon — and really, they find themselves in quite the similar situation. Up against monumental odds, . They know that if they are defeated, the Dark Side will have a free hand to enact all the oppression and devastation they hope to achieve. But, still, nevertheless — they will persist. But, they know that, the Resistance is strong, and with their allies at their side, they are capable of achieving what may only look like something that is impossible to everyone else. Their allies on the ground just proved that strength. The Shields Are Down! It is now time to commence the main attack! Before the prequels come, and ruin us forever. [...]

I'm Happy Tonight. For The First Time In A Year. To The Day.

Wed, 08 Nov 2017 02:00:22 +0000

Watching election results roll in, I’m happy. For the first time in a long time. For the first time in a year. Exactly a year.

Maybe America will survive Trump.

It could get very ugly as Trump reacts but hold strong. When it gets darker, hold stronger.

The writing is on the wall about where America really stands.

We will rise.

We will RISE.


Off to go shed some happy tears before we dig back in tomorrow.

Where is Kos?

Tue, 07 Nov 2017 02:24:49 +0000

This is Daily Kos.  I signed up here 14 years ago, after at least a year of lurking, because of the daily posts from kos (Markos Moulitsas).

I’m wondering what he’s up to.  He hasn’t posted a diary since September 13th.  He last posted short comments on October 2nd and June 12th.

Is he ok?  Has anything disrupted his ability to contribute to this site? 

I won’t speculate, but I’d like to register that I’m sorry to see so few new posts from Markos, obnoxious as they may be at times.

Our Beloved, BFtzinAR Has Been Bojo'd!!!

Mon, 06 Nov 2017 22:12:21 +0000

WHAT? I'm so shocked at the news. BFitzinAR, has been bojo'd. TOTALLY RIDICULOUS! This is too much to take. BFtz, is such a good friend to everyone. This is outrageous. She never does anything wrong or breaks any rules. What is going on, here at DKos? We must do something immediately. Every one should write a diary. No matter how short. Couple of paragraphs is fine. Flood Dkos with diaries, asking for BFitzinAR, to be re-instated. That will show Dkos how much BFitz is loved, by us. I am very concerned about BFitz. She could never have done any of the crazy things, I read she’s been accused of. What’s wrong with DKos, they can’t tell a good Kossack, from a bad one. Is this, a, computer error? DKos, is supposed to be a Democratic Blog. We’re supposed to be showing the world, how Democracy should work. DKos bojo’s, a 10 year Daily Kos member? Since 08’. Feb 15, 2008. I noticed, BFitz and I joined, the same year. Actually; she joined a month to the day before I did, Mar 15, 2008. Banned with, a crazy “conspiracy theory” story. Basically. Based on what evidence? Breaking one of DKos, own rules, about, no conspiracy theories. No reason, no nothing? Seems odd to me. Leave a message of support for BFitzinAR, at the Help Desk, at least. We all need to contact Markos, about BFitz today! I left this message at the Help Desk: BFitz is one of our most active Kossacks, in regards to helping other Kossacks. Anyone can see her many lists/charitable links, regarding, Kossacks in need. The Dkos system is broken. No upstanding Kossack like BFitz, should ever, be arbitrarily bojo'd so easily. Especially one, with BFitz's good reputation. *Kos, please fix this immediately and bring BFitzinAR, back to us, today! rebel ga [...]

Our intra-party divisions are being greatly exaggerated.

Sun, 05 Nov 2017 17:55:33 +0000

A front-page diary by Egberto Willies, piggy-backing on an article by Robert Reich, describes the differences between Democratic factions as follows: Establishment Democrats – corporate and Wall Street executives and upper-middle-class professionals. They’d also like a tax cut, but they believe in equal rights. Anti-establishment Democrats – younger, grassroots movement types, and progressives who still call themselves Democrats. Their biggest issues are widening inequality, racism, sexism, and climate change. They also want to get Big Money out of politics and they reject crony capitalism. According to the diarist, “establishment Democrats” are corporate executives who want a tax cut. In that case, they should be delighted right now, right? Trump has proposed a massive tax cut for corporate executives and Wall Street types, and they should be jumping on it with both feet. Here’s a list of the Democratic Senators and Representatives who’ve signed on: * * * * * * * * * * Wait a minute here. Something’s wrong. There aren’t any. What gives? The answer is pretty simple: there are policy differences within the Democratic Party. They are important, and worthy of discussion and criticism. But we have to understand what the differences actually are first, and Mr. Willies is simply incorrect about what they actually are. He completely misreads the views of the group he calls “establishment Democrats”, recognizing correctly that they are to his right but lacking the depth perception to realize that they’re not the same as Republicans. Specifically: there are essentially zero Democrats, “establishment” or otherwise, who support tax cuts for the rich. There are essentially zero Democrats who support repealing the ACA and its associated Medicare expansion. That already renders the following piece of Willies’ so-called ‘analysis’ absolutely risible: The differences between establishment Democratic Party (absent progressives) and the Republican Party are almost inconsequential based on their actions.  This is frankly irresponsible coming from a front-page writer at Daily Kos, peddling Naderite both-sides-are-the-same nonsense. Look. There are real differences between Democrats referred to as “establishment” and Democrats that are not, including plenty of policy differences. But many of them center more on tactics rather than strategy — pragmatism vs. purism, more than anything else. The debate on health care within the party isn’t whether to move in a more universal direction, it’s how. Do we adopt the Kaine-Bennet supercharged public option, or Sanders’ single-payer bill with a transition period? These are the real debates within the party. They’re good debates to have and we should welcome them. But you’re not going to get far if you’ve convinced yourself that your intra-party opponents hold views they don’t actually hold. We should argue with e[...]

If I wanted to harm Democrats’ electoral chances, and the country at large, do you know what I’d do?

Sun, 05 Nov 2017 20:34:24 +0000

I'd work to keep Democrats and otherwise left-leaning people at each other’s throats. I’d try to reawaken and stoke as much 2016 primary dumpster fire angst and anger as I could, and keep former and current Bernie and Hillary supporters as hostile towards each other as I could. I’d reopen old wounds and do my best to cut new ones exploiting whatever opportunities I could find. Above all I’d sow division and anger wherever I could. Government as a rule relies on cooperation and trust between peoples in order to be effective. Democrats as a rule trust and advocate for trust in government to do its job well, or at least justly. We also advocate for that same crucial cooperation and against hostility and unjust anger towards others. So if I wanted to damage Democrats and left-leaning folken then sowing hostility and distrust between and among them would be my most important goals. It’s crucial we keep these things in mind, and that we judge more critically each of these incoming fecal missiles on whether or not they are actually an illusion meant solely to enflame. Tuesday’s election will be an enormous one, both for Dems and for the future of the country, just like most every election has been since forever. We have a helluva lot of work to do already, and strong headwinds both from our own stubbornass herded-cats antics and from a generally self-serving media with ofttimes loose ties to the truth.  The time to close the book for good on the 2016 primary and move on was in late July of last year, when Bernie Sanders formally and in full-throated fashion endorsed Hillary Clinton for president on the Democratic National Convention floor.  That isn’t to say there aren’t things to fix, or that there weren’t problems with the way the DNC conducted itself during last year’s primary. And that is not to say there was outright favoritism or rigging going on, just that going forward we might seek to find a lesson in that process and learn from it. But other lessons are more important than that one. MOVING ON is the thing, and right now. Hillary has said she will not run again, and for all the shit she’s been through I for one can’t blame her one bit, being one who proudly voted for her last November and would gladly do so again. Bernie will be 78 in 2020, and for that (admittedly Machiavellian) reason, as much as I personally love the old guy, I’m ambivalent towards him trying again for the presidency, and would salute him and not blame him if he decided not to. And in the meantime we have a lot of work to do, the vast majority of which involves neither of those two and is just as important as any presidential race. Ignore the trolls and flamethrowers. Keep focus. Keep working harder than ever for your cause or candidate. But above all Move The Fuck On. All of us doing our damnedest to accomplish those things[...]

Even having been around here since the days of 5 digit UIDs, I am stunned by the response.

Sun, 05 Nov 2017 04:10:44 +0000

Ok, flog me for a diary that is hardly a diary, but as I was checking back on whether anybody had commented on any of my recent posts, I found this:

An incredibly long example of exactly why I have been avoiding like a plague a certain genre of post around here

I mean really?  If you didn’t agree or like it, at this point in time you couldn’t just walk on by?  And if you didn’t like the sub-comment by the person that didn’t like my comment, you couldn’t have just walked on by?  And by the time it got about ten sub-comments long, regardless of whether you liked or didn’t like my comment, or did or didn’t like the the comment about my comment, you couldn’t have just walked on?  And by the time it was approaching 50 comments, did it occur that maybe you had encountered one of those Florida sink-holes that just grows and grows and sucks everything down into it?  And I stopped counting after about 75 comments, sub-comments and sub-sub-comments because that is why I have avoided (with this one regretful exception) the latest bit of trench warfare — the outcome of which is eerily similar to the outcome of WW I trench warfare.

UPDATE:  Somebody thought I wrote this because I was upset at the comment(s) — not at all — the point was just how stimulus sensitive some people are — totally unable to walk past the shiny object.

We do not cite AEI uncritically on DK

Sat, 04 Nov 2017 19:23:10 +0000

Okay, a lot of stuff about the primaries and the DNC, you know what? I’m more concerned about the rightward direction DK is going. For instance…

Yes, that diary cited the American Enterprise Institute uncritically. You may remember them for The Bell Curve back in the 90s. You know, the book that kept talking about race and IQ? So I ask: Why are we citing a bunch of eugenists and racists uncritically? (To be fair, a certain faction here seems to desire Herrnstein and Murray’s “cognitive elite” utopia.)

This is not unique to that diary. Many others on DK cite sources we traditionally regarded as worthless RWNJs. (And of course, think tanks basically only exist to circumvent the peer review process.)

Okay, not much of a diary, but then again, I guess I’m, ahem, “unwilling to compromise”.

Meta Comment: I Think We Have Russian Activity In Our Own Back Yard

Sat, 04 Nov 2017 16:18:18 +0000

Right now the “DNC RIGGED IT!” theme is trending on DKos. There is a lot of pie fight activity…

Activity that is exactly the kind of pot-stirring that Russians have been engaged in through the whole 2016 election cycle. 

Sockpuppet and meatpuppet tactics are effective; Russia has shown itself a savvy opponent who can stir the pot. Russians inflamed emotions all over the place and even brought Bernie vs Hillary emotional fights onto this site, and even primed us for future flare ups. Look at how they targeted us with the just-before-the-DNC email dumps. 

Could we please get a comment or statement from DKos admins on the defensive measures being taken to prevent Russian or other troll accounts from stirring the pot here? 

To everyone who is currently getting worked up about the DNC bit: These revelations are coming out right after the Mueller round 1 indictments were made public. T The level of invective and emotional prodding (language used to inflame emotions) has gone from 0 to 10 almost overnight. The timing of the flare up smells fishy to me. 

Ask if our emotions are being manipulated disproportionately. (I’m not going to say that shenanigans within the DNS shouldn’t be investigated and that the DNC should not be reformed to fix any structural problems.) I am suggesting that this environment feels too much like other events felt where we had confirmed Russian manipulation. 

Daily Kos World of Warcraft Update: Dios de los Muertos edition

Thu, 02 Nov 2017 17:40:16 +0000

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Imagine If Clinton Used The American Equivalents Of Russian Forces That Elected Trump: CIA, FBI, NSA

Mon, 30 Oct 2017 21:56:05 +0000

The GOP talking point is that Clinton somehow colluded with Russia to, I’m not quite gets confusing…  …  um … … elect Trump?

Imagine if Clinton had actually done what Trump did? Imagine if she had gone all in to leverage the force of a government and all of its spy and communications resources to win an election. 

Imagine if she had used the CIA.

Imagine if she had used the FBI.

Imagine if she had used the IRS.

Imagine if she had used the NSA.

Trump used the Russian equivalents.

If Clinton had done that, I would be all in for a full investigation and impeachment. 

Because patriotism means country over party and right is right and wrong is wrong. 

But Clinton didn’t do that. She ran a traditional campaign. And Obama decided to keep quiet about suspicions of what Trump was doing to win because Mitch McConnell promised to turn the issue nuclear.

Yeah. We see you Mitch. You’re toast.

So, sure, it might have been unprecedented that a normally routine campaign ops investigation extended into an international realm. But it was unprecedented because what Trump was willing to do to win was without precedent. It was distinctly unAmerican.

And the GOP knows this. The longer they back Trump the dirtier it gets.

But, of course, it is already extraordinarily dirty.

I don’t know the road ahead. But I’m guessing it isn’t very pretty.

Stay strong. Believe in the promise of America. Rise up if need be. This is bigger than a single election. This is the future of everything we were raised believing was true and noble about our country.


Daily Kos World of Warcraft Update: Fix Your Mumble

Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:49:33 +0000

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Dear GOP Senators Who Pretend To Grow Spines: Put Your Money Where Your Mouths Are

Wed, 25 Oct 2017 02:41:05 +0000

Perhaps I am a bit out of line, but I just wanted to direct a rant toward the Republican Senators who have suddenly grown some sort of proverbial spines, in speaking critically, even defiantly, of Donald Trump. Pardon my French, but this is some bullshit. Set aside the fact that Trump has seemingly been a disaster since the moment he entered office, appointing wildly-unqualified members to his Cabinet, trampling on Constitutional principles such as the Emoluments Clause, and generally being unfit for office, so you are really only now saying what has been plain to the rest of us for months now. Set aside the fact that you have seemingly only gained the power to defy your Party’s standard-bearer after deciding not to run for re-election — freeing yourself of the need to demonstrate fealty to the Republican Party, and the deep pockets of its oligarchic puppeteers. The fact is, that with as much power as even a single Senator has, and even considering the precarious balance of the current Senate, you have seemingly gone along with over 80% of the Trump agenda you claim to detest and denounce as “undermining our democracy” so loudly.  Except for McCain, Murkowski, and Collins, in voting down ACA repeal, the rest of you have done almost nothing up to this point to prevent Trump’s agenda from taking effect, and negatively affecting the rest of us Americans. So, far from being as principled as other Trump critics, you and other Republican Senators who choose to supposedly speak out against Trump, are actually quite worthy of ridicule yourself — you claim to reject Trump, yet you waste more power that the rest of us could even dream of having, that could actually be used to make a statement against Trump’s attacks on our democracy, and return the government to regular working order, the thing you claim to want. If you really give a damn about defending the ideals and principles of this country you claim to love so much, instead of just talking a good game, why don’t you put your money where your mouth is? Here’s the thing: there are so many Republican Senators now willing to speak out against Trump. But it would only take three of you to regain the power of the Senate to actually rein in Trump. With just three of you “courageous” Republican Senators, you could hand the gavel to Schumer and the Democrats. Or even if that is too far of a bridge to cross, you could likely still make a deal with Democrats, that would take the gavel out of McConnell’s hands, and into the hands of Flake, or McCain, or whoever, at least until you depart. These would be the most direct ways to oppose the deleterious effect of the Trump administration, the best use of the immense power you wield in t[...]