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For me it's all hail to meat, fish, vegetables...

2012-01-17T14:39:23.872-06:00

For me it's all hail to meat, fish, vegetables and fruit. There's a BIG yes to Omega 3 in eggs, unbaked nuts and fish. There's a BIG no to bread, pasta, wraps, rice, and vegetable oils, mainly because of unbalanced omega 6-3 values. I've just read Good Calories, Bad Calories, by Gary Taubes, and watched the documentary Fat Head, it's all so clear to me now! I'm going for the 85% paleo lifestyle, whoya



What about pasteurized dairy? That's also a concer...

2008-05-07T22:28:00.000-05:00

What about pasteurized dairy? That's also a concern.



"Full-fat versions of dairy products were the norm...

2008-04-18T17:08:00.000-05:00

"Full-fat versions of dairy products were the norm in the traditional diet."

And where is the research showing that peoples who have eaten this "traditional diet" for millenia were harmed by the inclusion of full-fat dairy products?

I thought that vegetable oils were high in Omega-6 fatty acids... of which we get an overabundance these days. There has been much written on the hazards of refined vegetable oils -- simultaneously lowering LDL cholesterol and increasing one's risk of cancer.

NO ONE before the last century consumed polyunsaturated vegetable oils in any quantity. cf Enig and Fallon's "The Oiling of America."

I would go with traditional fats -- butter, lard, olive oil -- before becoming a guinea pig in a large untested dietary intervention...

i.e., the widespread consumption of refined PUFAs.

But to each their own.

btw... dairy fat contains CLA (conjugated linoleic acid) and other beneficial nutrients. We may be remembered centuries from now as victims of a nutritional Dark Age -- persuaded to trash our most valuable food stuffs (various fats) and substitute grains & starches (refined or otherwise) instead. Insanity.

Andrea



When I think of Mediterranean food, I think of che...

2008-03-27T22:27:00.000-05:00

When I think of Mediterranean food, I think of cheese, sausage, pork, lard, lamb, goat, yogurt, plus non-starchy veggies and fruit, with a tiny bit of starch & sugar perhaps. But most people today think it is heavy on the starch, especially refined starches and sugar, and skimpy on the meat and dairy. Too often folks forget about the veggies, too.



Thanks for the references, charles r! I will chec...

2008-03-24T22:29:00.000-05:00

Thanks for the references, charles r! I will check them out soon. I am not at all opposed to questioning orthodoxy and dogma.

-Steve



Steve,Well I'm sorry but the articles you link to ...

2008-03-23T15:04:00.000-05:00

Steve,

Well I'm sorry but the articles you link to are not particularly convincing or supportive to your argument.

The first two use words like "weak link," and "may cause," without identifying the mechanisms.

If I were you, I might take a look at these peer-reviewed articles from the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. There are many more such articles, but these are good for you to start with:

Saturated fat prevents coronary artery disease? An American paradox.
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/80/5/1102

These effects include the paradox that a high-fat, high–saturated fat diet is associated with diminished coronary artery disease progression in women with the metabolic syndrome, a condition that is epidemic in the United States.

Dietary fats, carbohydrate, and progression of coronary atherosclerosis in postmenopausal women
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/80/5/1175?ijkey=e4610ec5427b8118b39ec347e078d34a367efd11&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha

In postmenopausal women with relatively low total fat intake, a greater saturated fat intake is associated with less progression of coronary atherosclerosis, whereas carbohydrate intake is associated with a greater progression.

So if you are recommending to women in particular that they reduce or eliminate saturated fat, it seems that you are encouraging a diet that in fact is not particularly helpful in preventing
atherosclerosis, and may be harmful.

As the first article points out,

It is an article of faith that saturated fat raises LDL cholesterol and accelerates coronary artery disease, whereas unsaturated fatty acids have the opposite effect.

I'm thinking people might be better served by science than faith in this instance.



Dear charles r, here are a few references that dis...

2008-03-21T23:20:00.000-05:00

Dear charles r, here are a few references that discuss how saturated fats contribute to atherosclerosis (aka hardening of the arteries).

1. Kush, L.H., et al. Diet and 20-year mortality from coronary heart disease: the Ireland-Bopston Diet Heart Study. New England Journal of Medicine, 1985, 312(13): 811-818.

2. Differences in coronary mortality can be explained by differences in cholesterol and saturated fat intakes in 40 countries but not in France and Finland. A paradox. Circulation, 1993, 88(6): 2771-2779.

3. Diet and Coronary Heart Disease. Human Nutrition, Clinical Nutrition, 1982, 36(6): 413-427.

4. Tell, G.S., et al. Dietary fat intake and carotid artery wall thickness: the Atherosclerosis Risk in Communites (ARIC) Study. American Journal of Epidmiology, 1994, 139(10): 979-989.

The numerous references cited by the authors of these peer-reviewed scientific journal articles may also be helpful to you. I found these at PubMed.gov.

I hope this is helpful.

-Steve Parker, M.D.
Advanced Mediterranean Diet Blog



"The Advanced Mediterranean Diet"Well, Me. Parker,...

2008-03-20T10:47:00.000-05:00

"The Advanced Mediterranean Diet"

Well, Me. Parker, you may indeed have to re-think quite a bit when you write (from your web site) stuff like this:

"The Advanced Diet encourages usage of heart-protective omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids in vegetable oils, espcially flaxseed, canola, and soybean oils. These were not significant contributors to the traditional diet. Full-fat versions of dairy products were the norm in the traditional diet. We know now that the saturated fats in them contribute to hardening of the arteries (atherosclerosis), so the Advanced Diet favors the low-fat versions."

Who is this "we" that "now knows that saturated fats" contribute to hardening of the arteries? Could you cite some valid research that supports this argument?



What gets me about the dietitian comments is how c...

2008-03-20T07:49:00.000-05:00

What gets me about the dietitian comments is how clueless they are. Eating like your ancestors might be difficult because of limited access, I can agree. But instead of *trying* to eat the closest available equivalent foods, let's just give up and eat a carb-heavy diet that is radically different from what your ancestors ate. A diet that has already been shown to be especially detrimental to native people's health. Yes that makes a whole lot of sense to me.



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2008-03-19T21:27:00.000-05:00

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Regina, if you keep posting articles like this, I ...

2008-03-19T21:22:00.000-05:00

Regina, if you keep posting articles like this, I may have to re-think everything I learned about nutrition over the last 25 years.

I don't have time. Please stop.

-Steve Parker, M.D.
Author of The Advanced Mediterranean Diet



" . . . . access to food sources such as sockeye s...

2008-03-19T16:07:00.000-05:00

" . . . . access to food sources such as sockeye salmon may be limited by contamination and transportation issues."

So don't follow the program at all, because there's 1% of it that you might not be able to do perfectly. This is the no dairy, no red meat, no fat, no artificial sweeteners, no mercury-tainted fish, it's-just-too-difficult-to-do-it-in-a-healthy-way argument. I love the ignorance of relative risk implicit in these kinds of statements. As if these things will somehow kill me faster than the extra 60 pounds I used to carry around.

I guess we should always drive to our destinations too, because if we take a plane we might die.