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Updated: 2012-12-28T05:37:26.493-06:00

 



Bob Marley- maybe your dreadlocks got in the way, ...

2008-05-07T04:03:00.000-05:00

Bob Marley- maybe your dreadlocks got in the way, if you'd actually been watching the game you would have known that the "Korver" foul on Kobe's 3 pt attempt was actually away from the ball. Kobe didn't shoot the FT.



Sue - you are correct.MiguelinHO - First off, my p...

2008-05-06T19:23:00.000-05:00

Sue - you are correct.

MiguelinHO - First off, my post was primarily done in sarcasm, which doesn't translate well over the interweb. But I'll respond anyways.

1. I doubt there were any fouls called that had no contact (except maybe korver "fouling" kobe on that 3), but thats not the point. It's HOW MUCH contact and who initiates it that bothers me.

Example: Kobe starts a drive to the hoop and pushes Brewer off with his right arm, nothing called on Kobe. Brewer then tries to knock the ball away, nicking Kobe on the elbow, whistle blows.

Kobe gets alot of help that he doesn't need. Everyone knows this. It's not a conspiracy, it's FACT.

BTW, Kobe can't shoot or play with broken legs, so no, he wouldn't shoot FT's 24 and 25.

2. I don't really want to listen to Jerry. He rarely makes sense anyways. Plus, his mind-numbingly stupid subsitution schemes (which he will never change) was a much bigger reason the Jazz lost than anything Kobe did.



Bob Marley:If Harpring breaks Kobe's legs, then Ko...

2008-05-06T06:22:00.000-05:00

Bob Marley:

If Harpring breaks Kobe's legs, then Kobe will just have to shoot free throws 24 and 25. And guess what? He'd make those too.

Of course, AFTER those free throws, you would complain that Kobe just shot two more free throws. You would use those free throws as evidence of a league conspiracy to give Kobe more free throws.

Show us a foul where there was no contact. Answer: you can't. Listen to Jerry Sloan. He knows there's no conspiracy. Your guys just played bad defense and committed fouls. Some Jazz fans are now surprised those fouls got called. Why the surprise? Do you want your team to be judged by a different set of rules?

It all comes back to the point of this post: your team either owns up to its mistakes and tries to improve, or it just imagines some conspiracy against it. Jerry Sloan knows your team needs to improve. Do you?

-Miguelinho



Bob Marley's been hittin' the pipe again, I see.

2008-05-05T20:27:00.000-05:00

Bob Marley's been hittin' the pipe again, I see.



But the Jazz don't have "it."What do you mean by "...

2008-05-05T18:21:00.000-05:00

But the Jazz don't have "it."

What do you mean by "it"?
David Stern as your sixth-man? yeah... the Lakers have it alright.

Give Kobe 23 FT's again and Harpring may have to break his legs.



You'll never find a Utah Jazz fan that wishes we w...

2008-05-05T15:35:00.000-05:00

You'll never find a Utah Jazz fan that wishes we would have taken Chris Paul. Never. I've never heard a Jazz fan say it and I never will.



Detroit didn't sweep the Lakers. What is the myst...

2008-05-05T15:04:00.000-05:00

Detroit didn't sweep the Lakers. What is the mystical dividing line that determined whether the lakers won or the jazz lost?


Brevin Knight is way better than Chris Paul.



New Orleans fans have no beef against Deron or Uta...

2008-05-05T12:37:00.000-05:00

New Orleans fans have no beef against Deron or Utah. I mean, yeah, there happens to be infuriatingly little Jazz in the state of Utah. And yeah, they had our number this season, but whatever. The exception is their fans. If you are a Hornets fan and you state such in a public forum, get ready to be driven crazy by the very inane Utah fan behavior you mention. They cannot get over the draft three years ago.

They're bitter because Utah didn't take Chris Paul. But wait -- they wouldn't have taken Paul anyway because Deron is better. OK... so why the massive chip on your shoulder??

It's like, I feel for you, Utah fans. I know what it's like to root for a team that's underrated and undermentioned.

But you give me a headache.



CB Jack.."The Lakers didn't win that game as much ...

2008-05-05T11:21:00.000-05:00

CB Jack..

"The Lakers didn't win that game as much as the Jazz lost it."

That would imply that the Jazz were actually in the game. What game were you watching? The Jazz made one run, and were NEVER seriously a threat to take the lead for good. The Lakers WON that game. the Jazz looked overmatched. It was their hustle from guys like Okur, Brewer, and Millsap that got them as close as they got. But it is also because of no threat players like Brewer, Millsap, and Miles, that won;t let you guys truly compete. The Jazz are a nice team. Deron wil get his. Boozer will hustle to get his. But can you really rely on Boozer, and do you really think Mehmet will repeat that performance. AK-47 will disappear as usual. Then what is left? Even if the Jazz play equal to the Lakers, you still do not have one answer for Kobe Bryant, who can score at wil on anybody on Utah, and get to the line in crucial situations down the stretch.



Nice Job. This was right on. There isn'ta better...

2008-05-05T11:13:00.000-05:00

Nice Job. This was right on. There isn'ta better offense in the League when the Lkaes are on. The few team who outscored them (GS, PHX, DEN) made it a point to simply try to outscore teams, sacrificing defense to do so. The Lakers do not. They aren't trying to lead the League in scoring (check out their record vs. those same teams too). They just score. They simply have it all. A great scoring center (2 when Bynum gets back next year), a 6'10 PF who handles the ball like a PG, who is unstoppable when he drives (being a lefty helps too), Sf's who can shoot and rebound, and knock-down PG, and KOBE (who can do EVERYTHING). Then they have a bench full of shooters. they make it seem so easy sometimes, that really, only they can beat themselves sometimes, by mental lapses (like not sticking with the Kobe/Pau pick and roll). Most of their guys are multi-dimensional, which does give them that "it" factor.



What can I say Matt? That was a nicely written art...

2008-05-05T11:02:00.000-05:00

What can I say Matt? That was a nicely written article.

I will agree with you that Utah doesn't have "it". But did Detroit have "it" the season they swept the Lakers?

A fan cannot go through the entire regular season with Jazz blue tinted glasses on and suddenly take them off during the playoffs.

The Lakers didn't win that game as much as the Jazz lost it. The opportunity to win this is still there. The Lakers are an amazing team.

And the D.Will vs. CP3 thing? *yawn* NBA fans need to get used to the fact that Jazz fans will always say Deron is superior. We're homers. We're dillusional. But give us credit for sticking with our guy. You even said you saw it first hand when you went to the Dallas game?



"But in Game 1, Derek Fisher kind of, sort of, ate...

2008-05-05T10:19:00.000-05:00

"But in Game 1, Derek Fisher kind of, sort of, ate his lunch. Then he took the lunchbox and threw it over the fence. Then he threw Deron through the fence so his face ended up face-first into his leftover pudding, which of course, Fisher had ate and thoroughly enjoyed."

That was the highlight of my WEEK. And it's freaking' monday MORNING. Kudos to your style, HP.

All praise aside, you aqre absolutely correct in that the Lakers are above the Jazz- they're just too talented. I'm hoping the dogfight in the other bracket goes on for about 7 games with a couple of double overtimes thrown in.



The Rockets outplayed Utah in Games 3, 4 and 5. G...

2008-05-05T09:57:00.000-05:00

The Rockets outplayed Utah in Games 3, 4 and 5. Game 6 sucked because Mutombo got two quick fouls and Rafer got injured. Utah did not destroy the Rockets in any way, shape or form... they won, but it wasn't like they were the Lakers and the Rockets were Denver.

(yes, the Rockets season is over, but I will not stand for you slandering them!)



CP is an MVP candidate because his teammates are o...

2008-05-05T09:39:00.000-05:00

CP is an MVP candidate because his teammates are one dimensional (West excepted, of course). And I'd agree that Utah is a pretty talented team. If you look strictly comparison wise from New Orleans to Utah, the teams are pretty similar.

PG is a wash since Williams gets the better of Paul while Paul is actually better. Mo-Pete and Brewer are about even, since they're the same player. Kirilenko is better at more things than Peja. West and Boozer are a wash. Okur and Chandler would be an awesome center if they merged in to each other.

The Williams-Paul feud is silly, for sure. Williams will always, always own him because of the size (clearly the biggest knock on CP's game). I really like both the Horneys and the Yazz, so I'm a bit clouded. I just think you're undervaluing them a bit.



Congratufreakinglations, you won a head to head ma...

2008-05-05T02:48:00.000-05:00

Congratufreakinglations, you won a head to head matchup where Williams has size on Paul.

His team smoked a Western Conference superpower in the first round and just whupped the defending champs by 20. Deron barely managed to kick off a team held together by Rafer Alston and Dikembe Mutumbo, and then went out and got wiped off the mat by the Lakers.

You can use head to head matchup all you want, but the Hornets won more games, and Paul is an MVP candidate and Williams is not. Do you really think it's just that "no one notices"?

Deron Williams is a fine player and may end up as one of the best in the league. But point blank, right now, Chris Paul is able to do things Deron Williams can't. Cope.

You guys should spend less time worrying about what Chris Paul does and more time worrying about what your team doesn't do. And that's play consistently well against good teams.



In head-to-head matchups, Williams has consistentl...

2008-05-05T02:38:00.000-05:00

In head-to-head matchups, Williams has consistently outplayed Paul.

Williams:16.7 ppg and 11 apg
Paul: 12.25 ppg and 9.25 apg

Not to mention Utah prevailed in three of their four games.

Just sayin'.