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Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:00:35 +0000

[...] ALT-C 2007, 169-178). Maybe I need to rethink this. Jim Groom supports the idea of the blogfolio (This ain’t yo mama’s e-portfolio part 1, part 2) and cites Barbara Ganley: “Twitter to connect, blog to [...]

By: This ain’t yo mama’s e-portfolio, part 3 at bavatuesdays

Sat, 10 May 2008 22:22:49 +0000

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By: Reverend

Fri, 09 May 2008 05:01:17 +0000

@Dnorman, Chris, and Phaedral: I responded to you all in part two, And D'Arcy, why am I not surprised you blogged this already back when you used to blog in 2006 ;) @Cole, I look forward to your groups future steps, you have been a defining factor in all this stuff. And we'll be sure to steal as much from your work as possible. And the fact you're doing all this within a campus system of 80,000 is nothing short of amazing. @Alan, Yeah, I keep you in mind always when writing stuff like this, for I take to heart your deep understanding of the fact that the terminology and ideas of eportfolios, PLEs, etc. can often become an obsession in and of themselves. And like you, I am far more interested in getting to the heart of the matter of watching and tracing inspired and impassioned teaching and learning unfold before one's digital eyes. With that, I have tried to avoid remaining to comfortable in any one definition of an eportfolio, PLE, presentation site, etc. It ultimately makes more sense as a blog/archive/website as you referred to it at NV, and my heart remains there. But the e-portfolio ideas is always being thrown around (and I have heard about from number of people recently), and I was hoping to use these posts to kind of hijack the idea, under the usual terminology, to suggest that yep it's kinda like a blog/digital-notebook/archive that can be re-worked with RSS as you see fit. In fact, the links you and D'Arcy left here have been extremely helpful for both me and Andre Malan at UBC, who was in many ways the inspiration for this post. I'm not interested in the idea of pushing e-portfolios for the sake of some campus initiative, but as a more local, grass-roots space for letting people know the potential power of collecting and re-presenting all the cool work they did. And your call for prior art is recognized and understood, I try not to mess with Babe Ruth whenever possible :) @AJ Cann, That wetpaint site is very attractive. Do they handle feeds pretty well? Yet another tool/possibility for the portfolio. Thanks for that.

By: AJ Cann

Thu, 08 May 2008 11:28:10 +0000

We've just looked very hard at for student ePortfolios for all the reasons you mention: but on balance, we've come around to favouring instead:

By: This ain’t yo mama’s e-portfolio, part 2 at bavatuesdays

Thu, 08 May 2008 07:02:04 +0000

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By: Alan Levine

Thu, 08 May 2008 03:30:03 +0000

I claim prior blogging too, was looking this stuff back in 2003: bunches more. Not that it matters. its a struggle (IMHO) between this old concept of a fixed portfolio (like a real leather case full of "best work" and the more fluid thinfs we are familiar with in a web 2.0 space. I see this tensuin between portfolio as a thing, as a contained "the portfolio" and perhaps portfolio-ing as a reflective practice.

By: D'Arcy Norman

Thu, 08 May 2008 02:09:40 +0000

@Cole - sweet! looking forward to seeing what you come up with. Between the bava love and the ETS magic, I bet there are going to be some awesome blogfolio resources showing up this summer! :-)

By: Cole

Thu, 08 May 2008 01:44:58 +0000

I have invited a faculty member from our College of Education to be a faculty fellow with us this summer to put some real academic teeth behind the bite on this. I'll be sharing the details as they emerge, but we have now assembled an instructional designer, programmer, senior developer, and now a faculty fellow to focus intense energy here. I am betting the farm on blogs as portfolios this year and I am hopeful we can produce outcomes that really push this forward. So much more to come -- it is an exciting time to be part of this space! Loved the post-->

By: Chris Lott

Wed, 07 May 2008 23:53:01 +0000

Phaedral: I think you are right on... that's what I'm getting at with my second paragraph w/r/t sequences and installations. In most of my conversations I don't have time to elaborate on my shorthand. However, even that step: publish it, tag it, grab the feed(s) is light years better than even the most elaborate and expensive eportfolio apps. There has been a lot of talk about eportfolios for years, much of which has been devoted to the "utilitarian questions" you mention. The purposes, needs, and features are pretty well established, though there are, of course, many overlapping visions. Those discussions have taken me to the same place as Jim and others-- that developing a new app is probably not the way to go, but designing a way that can assemble the existing pieces and still meet most needs (everyone has their own idea, but I think a number of ideas about what portfolios should do are misguided if not downright harmful) could work. Really, people are already using all kinds of existing tools to accomplish the tasks that portfolios are meant to accomplish... my thinking-- and I suspect Jim's-- fits in the region between those relatively primitive but useful methods and the hopeless direction of the monolithic system. Thre are plenty of ways to publish every content type. Most of them have feeds. If I had a way to aggregate those intelligently and then provide an entry point to contextualized installations/presentations for specific purposes, topics, etc... that's all I need.

By: phaedral

Wed, 07 May 2008 23:46:37 +0000

I'm not sure my thoughts fully embrace the context of the conversation, especially since that conversation has been going on a while. But one thing that came to mind as I read was the idea that sometimes we want to present things _out_ of context, or, put differently, we want to shape and contour some of the immediate layers of context in which our work is to be seen/enjoyed/evaluated. That strikes me as an important difference between "put it up there and tag it" and some other, as yet not-articulated, version of the e-portfolio. For what does one want a portfolio? For what does one use a portfolio? As opposed to some other aggregation of personal work (like a journal or an archive)? I think utilitarian questions of this nature, and the answers to those questions, have to come first. Assuming, then, that the questions are asked, and then an app is developed to fulfill those answers, we get serendipity. No tool is good only for those tasks for which it was designed. The screwdriver is a pretty good ice pick...or murder weapon. Twitter, today, is a pretty good place to meet groovy folks and chat. This multiple use isn't a new phenomenon, nor at all limited to "new" tech. Looking forward to the rest of the series.