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Updated: 2017-12-14T13:21:31.781-08:00

 



For the record, "Soul on Ice" does not t...

2010-02-11T10:39:17.845-08:00

For the record, "Soul on Ice" does not talk "approvingly" about raping women - though this is usually the first comment to come from people who are familiar with the book second-hand.

As the infamous Soviet phrase goes, "I have not read, but I will say..."

Gets you into trouble sometimes.



FYI: I did a report on Elderidge Cleaver a few ye...

2008-10-09T21:30:00.000-07:00

FYI: I did a report on Elderidge Cleaver a few years ago, and included this in my report. He was totally serious (wtf, right?!) and this is from an October issue of Rolling Stones magazine, I think 1976 or so.



WOW I wonder if anyone bought them. LOL I guess yo...

2008-07-11T18:42:00.000-07:00

WOW I wonder if anyone bought them. LOL I guess you cant be a little man to wear those pants.. Its like indescent exposure. I heard about this on Bob and Tom show but I didnt believe it. I do now.. WOW ha ha



a little further digging on the wonderful internet...

2008-05-12T10:37:00.000-07:00

a little further digging on the wonderful internets brings this gem (http://whitehotmagazine.com/whitehot_articles.cfm?id=1198).

From the site:
"A work McCarthy comically "got wrong" was Eldridge Cleaver's penis pouch pants that were featured in an early 1970's ad in Rolling Stone Magazine."



haha. cleaver is a fool. didn't know so many peopl...

2008-03-11T01:23:00.000-07:00

haha. cleaver is a fool. didn't know so many people knew about the 'cleavers'. i did a write up about him on mu blog. your site is consistently entertaining.

peace,
chad b.

blackbacchus.com



I also remember those pants from an Esquire articl...

2007-11-30T19:08:00.000-08:00

I also remember those pants from an Esquire article sometime in the late Seventies. It was definitely a tube, not a pouch in the picture I saw. I doubt that "Jet" would print a picture of the tube.



I remember that exact page. It wasn't an actual ad...

2007-10-02T01:46:00.000-07:00

I remember that exact page. It wasn't an actual ad, but a blurb/short article about the pants. I'm pretty sure it was in Rolling Stone sometime in the mid 70's...'75, maybe?



Dave, you're right about the Jet photos. The crot...

2007-09-28T20:07:00.000-07:00

Dave, you're right about the Jet photos. The crotch featured a pocket for your di-- er uh, member. I don't remember this more (porno)graphic version.



I think this is the goofy version, I remember a so...

2007-09-28T17:53:00.000-07:00

I think this is the goofy version, I remember a somewhat more pouch like photo appearing in some mags. But as UBM says, Eldridge really did have a codpiece design that I believe he sold quite a few of, but in what country, I'm not sure. Papua-New Guinea night clubs would be the obvious market.



I knew he was crazy, but damn!

2007-09-28T01:22:00.000-07:00

I knew he was crazy, but damn!



One question...how the hell do you pee?

2007-09-27T10:02:00.000-07:00

One question...how the hell do you pee?



wow. i am really glad those didn't take off. wow.....

2007-09-27T06:24:00.000-07:00

wow. i am really glad those didn't take off. wow...



Sorry, I don't think a book that talks approvingly...

2007-09-27T01:20:00.000-07:00

Sorry, I don't think a book that talks approvingly about raping woman deserves praise. That is all

And, ho-lee cow, he was serious, wasn't he?



Oops, I was logged out there, that was my comment ...

2007-09-26T22:31:00.001-07:00

Oops, I was logged out there, that was my comment on Cleaver.



deangelo sterns-Interesting take. I always think o...

2007-09-26T22:31:00.000-07:00

deangelo sterns-

Interesting take. I always think of Eldridge Cleaver as this sort of epic tragic figure. Soul on Ice is so well written, and the couple clips I've seen him in person, he just seemed so sharp to me. But what happened to him? He was clearly a violent, out-of-control guy for his entire adult life, and his ideas were non-traditional - sometimes in the visionary sense, and sometimes in the just crazy sense, but at some point he seemed to really go off the deep end.

There's a funny/sad clip of him in the documentary about Dr. Bronner's soap, seemingly making perfect sense and then suddenly talking about cosmic rays or something along those lines.

I've often wondered about how his kids have fared. I know his daughter is married to Geronimo Pratt and his son wrote a book that I've never checked out.



^ Glad you said that, DeAnge. As I remember it, th...

2007-09-26T21:59:00.000-07:00

^ Glad you said that, DeAnge. As I remember it, the Jet photo showed more of a pouch-like thing... not a "sleeve" like this.

How do you remember it? Maybe this page I posted isn't the real pants.



Not a bad interview, but Eldridge was never the in...

2007-09-26T21:58:00.000-07:00

Not a bad interview, but Eldridge was never the intellectual he posed himself to be. His contradictory stances over the years bore this out. His famous book Soul On Ice was celebrated but should have been panned.



I remember the Jet photos, too.

2007-09-26T21:55:00.000-07:00

I remember the Jet photos, too.



Thanks, anon. Where this magazine page came from, ...

2007-09-26T19:23:00.000-07:00

Thanks, anon. Where this magazine page came from, I do not know. Could very well be a joke (judging by the text). But the pants themselves were NOT a joke... I asked Cleaver about them in my 1982 interview with him, which I published on this blog.

I also remember Jet magazine writing about the pants in the late '70s.



ISTR that this photo was from National Lampoon. I...

2007-09-26T19:08:00.000-07:00

ISTR that this photo was from National Lampoon. It was satire. I'm not sure if the pants were ever real.



OH.MY.GAWD!ThankyouThankyouThankyou.When he mentio...

2007-09-26T18:08:00.000-07:00

OH.
MY.
GAWD!

ThankyouThankyouThankyou.

When he mentioned that there was a "third leg" in his design this was not what I envisioned.

Now I'm wondering if they came with optional inseam measurements for that third leg? Or was it one size fits all?



Wow. I vaguely remember that Cleaver had a unique ...

2007-09-26T16:21:00.000-07:00

Wow. I vaguely remember that Cleaver had a unique sense of fashion design.

Hypothetical. Would a man receive a summons for indecent exposure--even though he's not fully exposed--for wearing these? (Lexington Steele would be arrested!)