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"As a candidate I'd look for recruiter's who don't...

2008-05-07T18:34:00.000-07:00

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As a candidate I'd look for recruiter's who don't talk about a role immediately - they are just looking for a body to fill a hole, if they are talking about your motivations, the type of environment in which you want to work - thats a good sign."

Wow. I so agree with that. Some recruiters I've known in the past worked like commission agents and day-to-day traders who were just out to complete their targets !



There's no easy way to know if a Recruitment Consu...

2008-05-07T11:32:00.000-07:00

There's no easy way to know if a Recruitment Consultant you're dealing with is a tried and tested veteran who is a genuine value-add to your search or some sort of wide-boy hell bent on getting his "commission" at any cost.

It's an bit of an anti-pattern for an inhouse recruiter to bash their agency roots, but I will say one thing - I think the "good ones" are in the minority. There are a standard number of "Recruiter Ruses" they will use and still think they are inventing them each time! Sending you a "best three" candidates, calling you to tell you about "a perfect candidate who is eager to work for your company" - why wouldn't they just call themselves?

A "good" recruiter is someone who cares not only about the candidates, you'll never find someone who is wholly altruistic, but someone who cares about their own personal integrity. How do they want to be viewed in teh interaction - are they looking for the fast buck or a more seasoned approach of building a relationship. I used to work with a global consultancy placing candidates in their compliance department, I knew nothing of SOX or Basle II before I talked to them, but I made damn sure I did by the second time we spoke!

As a candidate I'd look for recruiter's who don't talk about a role immediately - they are just looking for a body to fill a hole, if they are talking about your motivations, the type of environment in which you want to work - thats a good sign.

As a hiring manager think over conversations you have with recruiters, are they trying to understand your needs? Are they considering candidates as a checklist of skills or are they asking about cultural fit? Are they considering diversity issues? If you will uncomfortable during a conversation with a recruiter don't just "make do" remember you're paying for their services, more so if you are using a retained service or "Head Hunter".

There is no ideal answer in all this, the way to build a relationship is to give that initial trust. Hopefully you won't get burnt but it's inevitable that sometimes you will. Keep looking, when you find a good recruiter stay with them, cherish that relationship and maybe even spring for dinner yourself sometimes!



Good post. Glad to see TW keeping up their standar...

2008-05-06T17:11:00.000-07:00

Good post. Glad to see TW keeping up their standards.

However, the one million $ question is "how do you know you can trust a recruiter"?

As a job seeker I always had the impression they were trying to sell me whatever their current opening was as "the perfect job for me".

Now that I am on the hiring end of the deal I get calls from recruiters every week telling me that they have "the perfect candidate for my company".

Being an ex-recruiter yourself, do you have any tips on how to tell the honest ones from the lazy? Or in general, how to deal with recruiters effectively?



Great post, Matt.I knew I was going to the right c...

2008-05-06T17:03:00.000-07:00

Great post, Matt.
I knew I was going to the right company just by the way recruiting went with Thoughtworks.
Hope you are doing well!
Bernardo Silva
Thoughtworks UK