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Ramblings of an Emergency Physician in Texas



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By: Mitten

Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:45:44 +0000

I used to be a software developer that worked on a product that could detect doctor shoppers or people forging high numbers of prescriptions. We would scan through the claims for a given insurance company and using pretty simple statistics we could tell if there were a high number of certain drugs scripts being written out for a given member. Pretty cool stuff. We also had other rules that we ran for fraudulent prescribers and providers. Your post brought back memories.



By: GruntDoc

Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:56:08 +0000

If someone has a drug problem and asks for help they should get it. It's not easy to get, but it is obtainable. If someone breaks the law and engages in prescription forgery, that's not asking for help, that's breaking the law for personal gain, and it's no different than any other criminal activity. Want help? Ask for it. Want to forge scripts? No.



By: ChrisRyan

Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:05:45 +0000

Lets not forget that over 50% of prescription drug abusers where thought to be over-prescribed in the first place. Drug addiction is a serious personal health problem. And while you guys are acting so perfect, how about the doctors that provoke this type of behavior by running pill farms, or having girls strip or do other things in trade for prescriptions? The point im making is nobody is perfect EVERYONE has there DEMONS. I have battled addiction with pills, I will tell you half of you guys write scripts for personal gain, and the just about the rest of you try to play GOD without really recommending solutions, you like to just say "I know your addicted" out of my experience I can think of 2 doctors that have taken the time to reach out and help! Being completely honest. 2 Doctors in 3 years... Thankfully I have gotten help and am currently being treated. You would be surprised at how many people around you are using or have used drugs. Youve that Great Education of yours and Try to HELP people. If someone is resorting to this type of behavior, they need help!



By: Bay

Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:51:25 +0000

Being a recovering addict with many years clean under my belt I would think LTJ that the call made to send that person to jail while yes it may cause them withdrawals in some cases which jail doc will give them some ibuprofen to deal with it and in some cases maybe even a clonidine or something to help them through the rough patch. However that call may turn out to be the bottom that the addict needs to trigger them to give up drugs. So essentially that call to police will in fact maybe be the help they need after all. Of course remember most will see a commissioner and be bonded out or given personal recog. within hours and be right back out there doing the same thing. IF it was a perfect world they would be arrested and placed in a rehab for a mandatory 6 months when arrested and are PROVEN to be addicted. I add the proven part because sadly many dealers who do not in fact get high themselves have discovered the loophole of telling the judge they have an addiction and being sent to a treatment program and left back out really soon. So I think anyone locked up on any drug charge should be forced to give a urine at time of arrest Just to be sure from now on so that these jerks taking the beds that real addicts need could be weeded out. That would however be that perfect world where the powers that be are not worried on the cost because most addicts i know have long lost family ties and are not likely to be working or have any insurance. And last time I heard the state only covers I think it is 30 day stay now It was once 7 days back when i was actively addicted but again that was ages ago. At least they did raise it to 30 though that still is not too helpful it only gives most addicts time to fatten up get rested and be sent back to the same environment they were in with no job or money so they will in effect return to the same life. Sorry to go off topic. Bay



By: cristina

Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:20:52 +0000

How about the fact that some of these forgeries are being brought in, not by addicts, by drug dealers, or those working for them. They then turn around and sell these drugs illegally. And for those of you sending them on their way without filling the prescription, you should be stamping the back of the prescription at the very least to take it out of circulation. It is important to report these offences to the authorities, precisely because it is an addiction issue and they need treatment.



By: Blakey

Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:42:17 +0000

we just refuse to fill them, we never call the cops. i had a woman try to fill a dexedrine script on a regualar non-C2 pad the other day and we just gave it right back. jail is not the solution needed. how can they get good jobs and lead productive lives after going to jail, getting a record, and being exposed to true criminals



By: beachdoc

Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:33:47 +0000

LTJ, are you kidding???? If we indulged every dirtball coming in for drugs, sick people couldn't wade through the masses to reach my receptionist to get care. Please!



By: GruntDoc

Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:54:44 +0000

...and the guy robbing the bank, he's just down on his luck, just give him the money... Seriously, did you even think about that tiresome non-argument? It's just silly beyond belief. I was going to delete it for you, but will leave it as an example of actual looney commenting.



By: LTJ

Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:09:16 +0000

Isn't calling the cops on someone who is ostensibly suffering from the "disease" of addiction, more than a little on the cruel side? That's if you believe the prevailing medical establishment view that drug addiction is an illness, then isn't there something in your Medical or Pharmacists Oath (or whatever) where you've sworn to help the sick and to ease human suffering to the best of your ability? If someone is threatening, that's another story. But, is throwing a peaceful customer into a metal cage now considered a civilized "standard of care" for addiction? Why not give the "offender/patient" a mini-lecture and call their doctor for them? Or is it just way too much fun to call the cops, and then kick back to watch the crazy humiliation scene unfold? So it would seem, to judge from the comments of some of the so-called "medical professionals" on this thread. Just remember that with such well-known occupational temptations, one day you might be that offender/patient in need of a break......?



By: civilianannie

Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:32:31 +0000

Total civilian here: non-medical; non-military (although Mother was USMC/WR, WW2 and Dad was WW 2 Army MD later in practice as general surgeon). Something that drives me nuts: any comments? Insurance companies with insistence on filling three-month prescriptions ostensibly to save the consumer money and extra trips to the pharmacy...I don't care what the drug is, in a household with kids or elderly folks, that's just too much of anything to have around. Have gone around the block with at least three mail-order companies on this one--my consumer comment is that I just don't think it's safe. Yeah, rationally I know that a 30-day supply may not be 100% safe either, and it's my job to teach my kids; look after my elderly, etc., but in my bones, I don't like the three-month supply policy. My scripts may pretty run of the mill, but I know there are hairy ones out there. Have reluctantly gone along with it until recently, but have decided that the savings aren't that significant, and since I don't live in the boondocks it's just as easy to go to my local pharmacy. In the future, it's the old 30-day refill for me. Do you guys have any thoughts? Oh: separate topic--in my attic I have absolutely exquisite artifacts from the offices of both my Dad and his GP father: including a nearly 100-year old microscope and a little black notebook filled with the handwritten "recipes" from the days when GP's of the horse-and-buggy era mixed their own compounds. Docs and nurses are my personal heroes (maternal grandmother nursed through the 1918 flu epidemic...) I grew up with a Dad who did a lot of "service" rotations through the ED before EM became a specialty: he was an absentee Dad a lot of the time, but he taught me more about aesthetics than any other human being ever has: his heart-to-heart discourse to a young daughter about his personal aesthetic and life in medicine has enriched my entire life. This is a great site: blessings on you all: ars longa... From a grateful patient: thanks. From the heart, forever: thanks.