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By: KeithBram

Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:48:00 +0000

Please clarify: are you saying Canada is a Communist nation that engages in technological espionage, or Canada should be... etc?



By: KeithBram

Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:41:00 +0000

So you don't see any problem with the pollution problems in Beijing? Here's the thing: even if AGW theories are wrong, we are better off reducing the amount we pollute.



By: EmilyOne

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:17:00 +0000

Kinsella ........Anon/Harry/Sot/Observer/FakeEmily/ChuckyCheese etc



By: GFMD

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:13:00 +0000

to PRODUCE biofuel causes more pollution than BURNING regular fuel. *** As it reads, this sentence could very easily be true. The best comparison would be the production AND burning costs of both fuel. it would not be the first time extremists (usually on the right) use misleading numbers to advance their agenda.



By: EmilyOne

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:01:00 +0000

Kinsella....he's looking for you, doll. Go talk to him Anon/Harry/Fake Emily/Sot/ChuckyCheese etc



By: ChuckyGotcha

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:57:00 +0000

Kinsella? Nooooooooooo Emily, sorry. but that's even goofy by your standard. Warren couldn't have time for the likes of YOU. He's busy trying to help the Federal Liberals pick a photogenic space cadet to run for PM. And I think he'd prefer one that's related to Ronny Wood. And Warren doesn't like the technoogy stealing Communist Chinese nearly as much as Jack Layton did. LOL



By: ChuckyGotcha

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:46:00 +0000

Yup, sorta like your FN Indians except the Romans weren't looking for anybody to write them a cheque or buy them a Zamboni And unlike your friends the Commmunist Chinese they weren't trying to steal technology from anybody. If it ever turned out the Romans needed an aquaduct or something they worked it out themselves.



By: EmilyOne

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:28:00 +0000

Like I said....your investing is your problem, not mine, bubba. PS....and yes indeedy, science requires qualifications....this not being the 5th century CE and all.



By: EmilyOne

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:24:00 +0000

And I should care about that....why? You'll be the one unemployed.



By: GlynnMhor

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:22:00 +0000

Science requires observations and conclusions, not qualifications. And no, I do not want to lose my shirt investing in dead end technology dependent on massive direct and indirect subsidies.



By: lilacbush

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:18:00 +0000

From what I have read, to produce biofuel causes more pollution than burning regular fuel. They are using machines to sow the corn, harvest it, load it onto trucks. Process it, truck it to the destination. ...Plus a variety of produce has given up the soil to plant corn...food that is not eatable..crazy world



By: lilacbush

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:07:00 +0000

that's right, if we don't get the oil to market I might lose my job and have to go on EI...and not just me, but there are thousands of people working there. Not just in the plants themselves, but in the camps as kitchen staff, housekeepers, security, And guess what, more and more of the companies that provide that support staff are natives. The EI system will get taxed to the max. I hope you have a good job, so you can keep paying into it, so people like me can draw from it.



By: EmilyOne

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:01:00 +0000

If that's where you're planning your future....you're in big trouble.



By: lilacbush

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:53:00 +0000

guilty about the oilsands? who me? sorry that's where I work. Not guilty about making a hard earned living....now lets build those pipelines, so that I can finish my apprenticeship and keep providing for my family



By: Saskaknowhow

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:50:00 +0000

Where is the evidence that these sorts of investments will reduce energy consumption / pollution? You don't have to be an environmentalist to recognize that technologies that improve efficiency create tendencies towards greater consumption of resources to create more output to sell rather than to reduce input consumption to make the same level of output. Particularly, when there is an obligation for whatever reasons to make more sales.



By: EmilyOne

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:03:00 +0000

No, it's your effort to pretend you have any qualifications. Your 'levels of literacy and numeracy'??? Hardly. The Roman Climate thingy had me laughing out loud in fact. Hey, don't invest in Green Tech....I don't mind. Others will get rich instead.



By: GlynnMhor

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:41:00 +0000

Heh heh heh... that's the sort of shrill desperation I was referring to, above. You're unable to defend the fear-mongery, so you resort to insults. If you read my posts, however, you will note that my levels of literacy and numeracy handily exceed those of the average poster, much less those of a grade IV student.



By: EmilyOne

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:23:00 +0000

Kinsella



By: ChuckyGotcha

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:09:00 +0000

Yup, pipelines a dying breed. LOL "Scotty, beam up 30,000 gallons please" Way to go Emily, another winner.



By: ChuckyGotcha

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:07:00 +0000

With any luck "ours" willl start with you But in the meantime, as long as you continue to argue one way for the Romans and the opposite way for the FN, we'll look on you as a fruitcake. And the Chinese are stuck as Communist cave men unless they steal technology from the United States.



By: EmilyOne

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:00:00 +0000

Because the Romans also refused to change. So the Roman Empire died out....as will ours



By: EmilyOne

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:59:00 +0000

My gawd....that's dreadful. 'Roman Climatic Optimum' indeed.....AHAHAHAHAHAHA



By: EmilyOne

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:57:00 +0000

Sorry, not interested in your unqualified boobery.



By: GlynnMhor

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:53:00 +0000

An excellent question, but one to which the answer shall doubtless remain shrouded in mystery.



By: GlynnMhor

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:52:00 +0000

Then by all means go read about Science, and find out why real science involves verifying hypotheses with experimental or observational data. You'll also learn that failure to verify hypotheses means the hypotheses need to be changed. In marked contrast the AGW fear mongery is getting more and more shrill as the evidence for it gets less and less convincing, which is an indicator of Politics in action, not Science.



By: ChuckyGotcha

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:03:00 +0000

You're right, the topic is about China, so why did Emily, the thread's biggest MORON FOOL bring up the Romans?



By: ChuckyGotcha

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:16:00 +0000

Wikipedia science, what a joke. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c



By: EmilyOne

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:09:00 +0000

Well see, that would be Green Tech....in that we've long since learned how to make things without oil. And putting tonnes of C02 in the atmosphere everyday doesn't help anything. Ahhh the oil sands....feeling guilty are we? Well, everyone is aware the oil sands aren't the only problem....but pipelines are a dying breed.



By: EmilyOne

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:06:00 +0000

Actually, it's science. Just not your grade 4 stuff.



By: ChuckyGotcha

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:05:00 +0000

Don't forget the Zambonis for the Indians Emily, they all worry how whitey is screwing their environment. But noooooooo ...... they must have their Zamboni.



By: EmilyOne

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:05:00 +0000

Pay attention....this topic is about China, green tech, and the west's refusal to go by science....not your nonsense.



By: EmilyOne

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:02:00 +0000

Sorry....I go by science, not Con kooks.



By: ChuckyGotcha

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:59:00 +0000

Look, when the Olympics were on and the goofy Chinese didn't want to look as if they were a pack of smog bound idiots, they shut down cars and factories for a mere 10 days and "presto" the air was as clean as it's ever been. The Planet and it's self cleaning system took care of it. Through comet and asteroid collisions and through Ring of Fire volcanoes taking place continuously over billions of years the Planet and it's systems have taken care of it. You're a fool Emily. It's time to take YOUR OWN claptrap to some other thread/



By: GlynnMhor

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:54:00 +0000

Wrong on all counts. The Roman Empire flourished during the Roman Climatic Optimum, but then slowly succumbed to the cooler period that followed and brought on mass migrations of organized looter tribes (visigoths, vandals, ostrogoths, huns, etc)



By: GlynnMhor

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:52:00 +0000

You have an opportunity to learn about what affects the climate and what does not. I cannot force you to learn, of course, but I will hold the door open for you and anyone else.



By: lilacbush

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:49:00 +0000

It will be a while until we are able to reduce our fossil fuel consumption. I sure would be scared to fly in an electric powered airplane. And nowadays most things are made out of plastic. Plastic is made from oil. Spandex is made from oil. .....And what about the trees? They need co2..it's their job to change that into clean air. If we wouldnt be cutting all those big swats of trees everywhere, we would have more shade, hence cooler temperatures. Also protecting some species. But nooo... only the oil sands get blamed. There are a lot of factors to fall into place before we can operate on renewable energy. But in the meantime, build those pipelines already, and plant trees



By: ChuckyGotcha

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:46:00 +0000

Yup, right after Caesar crossed the Rubicon with those famous words "Iacta Alia Est" .... "The Die is Cast" ... he started in on the "green" energy alternatives and they couldn't shut him up. Keep up the good work Emily.



By: EmilyOne

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:42:00 +0000

Romans thought they were superior too....closed themselves off to everyone else...refused to change, refused science, just put up walls and covered their ears.....and died. Every empire in history has fallen the same way....imperial overstretch, because they believed themselves superior and refused to change. We will go the same way.



By: EmilyOne

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:42:00 +0000

Look nobody intends to argue this issue with you yet again. It's boring, and everyone else is aware of the scientific basis for global warming and climate change, even if YOU don't understand it. So if you don't want to hear about it, find some other thread to post on.



By: GlynnMhor

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:35:00 +0000

In Science, actual Science, theories are tested against their predictions. When the predictions FAIL, theories are normally revised, re-evaluated, reconsidered, re-examined, recalculated, or just plain re-jected. The only forces keeping the AGW alarmism theory, in the face of all its failures, from being abandoned are those of political correctness.