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By: Ken Kaplan

Sun, 11 May 2008 23:29:24 +0000

Josh -- I really enjoyed the comments on this post, especially Bill's and the "other" Josh. For the past several years inside and outside Intel, I have opened up more and more -- sometime too much, but other times I wish shared even more gusto. I have encouraged co-workers, family and friends to try the same. This is in big part because of the way I identify with your approach...and the things I learn from you. When you were picked to move into your new role at Intel, it spoke loudly about the leaders and mates on your team -- progressive, innovative, willing to move forward face first with honesty and integrity. I believe many of us are out of the "do it right every time" militaristic, authoritative mode and into a more collaborative mode these days thanks to you and your team. Now pioneers have many settlers or natives joining the fray, all following and connecting. During the gold rush, pioneers got rich off of new found gold while the pick, shovel and Levi jeans makers built businesses around the rush for gold. You are doing wonderful things -- and you're so prolific! I appreciate your willingness to join, participate and chime in. Over the past few years you've been asked to do that more and more. Thank you! Please keep following your groove and sharing the beats with everyone eager to learn...and do.



By: Joe Perrin

Sun, 11 May 2008 03:01:56 +0000

Josh, I've enjoyed every post, picture, video & tweet. I may not always agree, but I enjoy your lifestream. Keep on Keepin on. Enough said. Joe.



By: scott

Wed, 07 May 2008 23:58:19 +0000

My only comment would be that I think airing of differences or debates on theology, for lack of a better term, in many companies is not welcomed when it strays outside the company walls. Be careful that this doesn't start affecting your job. There's a very real possibility someone could say "you know, if we let Josh in on this, he's gonna blog the whole thing, disagreements, details, and all." You probably don't need that at this point in your (and Intel's) career.



By: Josh Bernoff

Wed, 07 May 2008 23:57:15 +0000

Looking at all of this, my perspective: Finding the balance here is hard. If you get too passionate, it seems to personal, and you're not advancing the needs of your employer. If you get too corporate, it's top down marketing in another guise and your audience resents it. I've talked about the chasm between Purists and Corporatists (http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/2008/03/corporate-socia.html) -- living in the middle of this spectrum is tough. Working with a lot of corporate clients I can tell you that if you can even get to the point of having this conversation you are way, way ahead. Don't beat yourself up so much, and don't beat your colleagues up so much either. Whether you've been doing this for decades or are new to it, it's not a solved problem. That's what makes it interesting. Don't give up. At this point, doing social applications in a corporate setting is half inspiration and half politics. Regardless of what corporation it is. /the other josh P.S. The google adsense ads on this page are very telling . . .



By: Gerry Van Zandt

Tue, 06 May 2008 19:01:01 +0000

Josh, In my own experience and on-line life, I've found that in the communities in which I'm a leader and super-knowledgeable, there are always a couple of people who seem to take offense at something - tone of my posts, the information that I dish out, the frequency and/or enthusiasm with which I post, or even the color (or lack) of my hair. You name it. This misunderstanding is precipitated and exacerbated by several factors: the impersonal nature of electronic communications; misconstrual of intent (i.e. thinking you're on a power trip when you're absolutely not); jealousy of your position or standing in the community and respect gained from others; and the depth of knowledge encompassed. Generally those who DO know you well will stick up for and publicly support the offended party, either setting them straight very quickly or shunning them entirely. In the sense that you offended party was a co-worker, banishment isn't really an option :) I think the best thing you can do, and what's worked for me, is to meet the person FTF and have a conversation to affirm your motivations and underscore that the intent is not to offend, but to inform and encourage others. You can encourage them to look at what you are doing in a new light. Most of the time, people will respond positively to this and their perceptions and attitudes will change. Sometimes not though. Wish you the best, Gerry P.S. I'm no longer at Intel, but from what I've seen of your posts, tweets, etc. I've yet to see anything that's condescending, overtly ego-driven or negative in the least. Rather, I view you as a hell of a jolly guy whom I'd love to go have lunch and/or a beer with at Intel building RH-1 -- that's Intel-speak for McMenamin's Cornelius Pass RoadHouse, Building 1 (sorta like JF-1, get it?!?) to debate the merits of your SHO with.



By: Bill Pearson

Tue, 06 May 2008 18:28:14 +0000

Josh, don't let the conversation get you down. You're a pioneer and a counter culture icon. The price you pay is that sometimes people are going to throw tomatoes.



By: Josh Bancroft

Tue, 06 May 2008 17:01:32 +0000

@Michael - you're right. Even though tempers flared, in the end, we had an important discussion, and discovered that we're more alike than we each thought at the beginning. Because of that, I'm actually glad the whole thing happened. Next time you're in Portland I'll take you out to lunch or something. ;-) @Aaron - I agree. I'd much rather live with these occasional emotional head-butts than in a world where we're all too afraid to express ourselves, and let other people do the same. @elly and @Tim - Thank you for the kind words. They mean a lot to me. I'll try not to let them go to my head. ;-) @ThomasHan - yes, you had a cameo in the whole drama. But as you can see, it's all cooled off and OK now. We've had our virtual group hug, and I think we're all stronger and wiser for what happened. So it's all good! :-) @Luke - I posted a comment on your blog to this effect, but I really appreciated you sharing your thoughts, and I'm taking your suggestions to heart (to publicly admit my mistakes and praise others more often). We'll see how it goes! :-)



By: @ThomasHan

Tue, 06 May 2008 15:16:13 +0000

Josh - oh noes... I see what's going on now. I was wondering what was happening between you and your colleague and now I understand. Sorry to hear and hope you move on (sounds like you have) and enjoy what's most important in life! (your family and those close to you) Cheers and see ya on Twitter :-)



By: Tim Manders

Tue, 06 May 2008 10:37:27 +0000

Josh, you are the real deal. This post just proves it again. Being another "Intellion" I know exactly what forces you are dealing with. The company is trying to "get it" and many of our co-workers do get it. However, many do not. That is why you are such a valuable asset. Not only do you get it, but you know what it is, have the experience and history to prove it, and have a wide-open online persona. The transparency is there, which to me removes the suspicion of arrogance. We should not mistake passion or time-tested knowledge and understanding for arrogance. I don't know if anyone really knows anyone else, other than maybe our spouse, but arrogant doesn't describe you. Opinionated, passionate, open, engaged, proven, and from our conversations, humble are all words that describe you to me. I'm marching with you as I strive to learn more and apply it to my job. Carry the flag high because I know there are many that are following.



By: elly parker

Tue, 06 May 2008 10:14:19 +0000

Pioneers are nearly always annoying to those around them, even if they don't mean to be. The exact same thing probably plays out in the chip design world - "Hey why don't we use potassium/gold/lead to do this?" and is met with the same type of reaction that you got. Stick it out, and when you need to top-up the self worth for sanity's sake, then check your blog stats or the number of people that respond to you on twitter - even if you don't see those people f2f, you know that you are influencing them. We all come across people that will upset/annoy us, we just need to put it behind us and move on to the next encounter...