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No women, to my knowledge, are beating 50,000 peop...

2007-04-20T09:43:00.000-04:00

No women, to my knowledge, are beating 50,000 people a year to death with their implants. So, I don't see a ban being quite as necessary for plastic surgery, as opposed to gun powder surgery.
What about all of those deaths from car accidents. What about all of the deaths from stabbing every year? Outlaw cars and knives and then you’ll see a drop in deaths.



I wrote a post on my blog that touched (hypocritic...

2007-04-19T22:04:00.000-04:00

I wrote a post on my blog that touched (hypocritically and briefly, lol) on this very subject.

If you want to see something different, check out how other countries view the US and its stance on guns. My fave is Al Jazeera English, which can be found online.



llr said: "For some reason I don’t’ see anyone try...

2007-04-19T18:24:00.000-04:00

llr said: "For some reason I don’t’ see anyone trying to get them outlawed along with things like lipo, plastic surgery, etc. Could it be because doing such things doesn’t infringe on anyone else’s rights just like me having 100 guns at my house?"

No women, to my knowledge, are beating 50,000 people a year to death with their implants. So, I don't see a ban being quite as necessary for plastic surgery, as opposed to gun powder surgery.



Guns are a great balm for the insecure and a great...

2007-04-19T12:35:00.000-04:00

Guns are a great balm for the insecure and a great boon for their manufacturers..
Insecure? What are you talking about? If someone likes to shoot targets they are insecure? I can see what you are saying. A lot of teenage girls are getting thinks like breat implants because “society” says that big breasts are nice. For some reason I don’t’ see anyone trying to get them outlawed along with things like lipo, plastic surgery, etc. Could it be because doing such things doesn’t infringe on anyone else’s rights just like me having 100 guns at my house?

Hmm...take a look here...I don't see any mention of "guns". I only see "arms". In fact, some individuals back in the day privately owned cannon. So if we're going with strict interpretation of your favorite amendment, ILR, it allows "the right to keep and bear _arms_"...of which "guns" are only a subset.

I am not sure if canons are legal or not. It would be cool to own one just to say that I do. I will look into it and see if I can get my hands on one. Thanks for the advice.

Hum let’s take a look at the 1st amendment. It mentions the press. Does that mean blogs, TV, radio, websites, etc. Does that mean that only newspapers and maybe magazines are covered under the 1st amendment? I’m just asking.

The constitution doesn’t mention abortion or privacy, yet people are always talking about these rights to an abortion and privacy. Please cite the amendment or language in the constitution.

When the Constitution was written the framers had no idea that we would have things like closed circuit TV that could record crimes that are committed. Does that mean that we should get rid of the 5th amendment, have a judge take a look at the tape, find the guy guilty, and sentence him accordingly.

I could go on and on, but do I really need to.

Weaponized Anthrax is an armament. Ergo, under the 2nd Amendment its entirely kosher to have some in appropriately secured storage in my basement. Hell...if your next door neighbor knows what he's doing and has the right containment, some nice Sarin is comnpletely 2nd Amendment acceptable. Ditto on a backpack nuke, napalm, or any other standard armament.

You shouldn't have any problem with that, right?

Just curious.


I am not up to snuff on the laws concerning making bombs or things like anthrax. If it’s illegal to possess (like a shotgun with a barrel less than 18 inches) then people that possess such things should be willing to face the consequences of having such things.

Will someone please answer my questions regarding regulating sex to lower HIV and AIDS rates? Will someone please answer my questions about the Black Panthers and the Deacons for Defense?



ILR, bollocks.Okay, someone brought up Anthrax. No...

2007-04-19T08:32:00.000-04:00

ILR, bollocks.

Okay, someone brought up Anthrax. Now lets take a leetle sit down ILR, and do some reading of the 2nd Amendment.

Hmm...take a look here...I don't see any mention of "guns". I only see "arms". In fact, some individuals back in the day privately owned cannon. So if we're going with strict interpretation of your favorite amendment, ILR, it allows "the right to keep and bear _arms_"...of which "guns" are only a subset.

Weaponized Anthrax is an armament. Ergo, under the 2nd Amendment its entirely kosher to have some in appropriately secured storage in my basement. Hell...if your next door neighbor knows what he's doing and has the right containment, some nice Sarin is comnpletely 2nd Amendment acceptable. Ditto on a backpack nuke, napalm, or any other standard armament.

You shouldn't have any problem with that, right?

Just curious.



Guns are a great balm for the insecure and a great...

2007-04-18T22:05:00.000-04:00

Guns are a great balm for the insecure and a great boon for their manufacturers.

Advertising propaganda breeds insecurity, whether it be zits, breasts, lipo and personal safety. This manufactured insecurity becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy as people begin to reflect the brainwashing, believe that they need these products to address problems that require fundamental changes in our culture; have amazing arguments for why they not only need, but are entitled to these products and services.


Its amazing to see folks become consumers of products that offer life, yet produce death or offer beauty, when they produce the ugliest human beings on the planet.

Plez mentioned countries that have 1-2 murders per year; guns aren't going to make that happen here. Quite the contrary; but people don't need guns in healthy societies.



What if someone breaks into your home and steals o...

2007-04-18T18:21:00.000-04:00

What if someone breaks into your home and steals one of your (I am sure many) guns? Now that same perp turns around and shoots my ass with your GUN, is that fair to me, who has just as much constitutional rights as you do? I mean, you are f*****g with my rights to pursue happiness when that happens right? And the last time I checked, the constitution gives me that right.(to pursue happiness) I can't pursue happiness if I can't walk around my block without the fear of getting my head blown off by some knuckle head with a gat.

What if a some guys decide to trespass on your private property and steal your cars. They then take those cars and run over my ass with them. Now what is we gone do? I can’t pursue happiness because I am in a wheelchair because YOU owned a car.

And before you say, we should make stronger laws to keep the guns away from these criminals, I dare say that less guns for everyone would make it much harder for these idiots to get their hands on one.

Fewer cars means few auto related deaths. Fewer knives means fewer stabbings. Less sex means fewer people with AIDs and HIV so should the gov’t regulate sex to the degree that we can only have 1 sexual partner a month?



"Now tell me how I am being played because I choos...

2007-04-18T16:07:00.000-04:00

"Now tell me how I am being played because I choose to own a gun. If YOU don’t want one then don’t’ get one. You can forfeit that right, but don’t try to take away my RIGHTS because you don’t’ like them."

llr, there is the rub. Yes, if I don't want one I wont get one, but you having one might effect my life in a very negative way.

What if someone breaks into your home and steals one of your (I am sure many) guns? Now that same perp turns around and shoots my ass with your GUN, is that fair to me, who has just as much constitutional rights as you do? I mean, you are f*****g with my rights to pursue happiness when that happens right? And the last time I checked, the constitution gives me that right.(to pursue happiness) I can't pursue happiness if I can't walk around my block without the fear of getting my head blown off by some knuckle head with a gat.

And before you say, we should make stronger laws to keep the guns away from these criminals, I dare say that less guns for everyone would make it much harder for these idiots to get their hands on one.

Hey, I have seen one too many guns can do to a society, and it ain't pretty. I would love to get into this more with you, but time does not permit right now.

I will catch you on the B side.



llr: The choices that people in this society make ...

2007-04-18T15:30:00.000-04:00

llr: The choices that people in this society make are "conditioned." The desires/wants/needs of us are conditioned by media, by the owners of media who, coincidentally, own the country. You think you're free because you get to own a gun, because someone told you you had some right to it? You aren't free - not because of some second ammendment.

I mean, who were those men who wrote that, God? They were elites who were only concerned about their class interests. They weren't thinking about yours.

Have you thought beyond that? That some so-called rights might be worth forfeiting, particularly when tremendous harm is caused by that right you hold so dear?

No, a right is a right is a right, RIGHT? They criminalize pot and cocaine, but legalize alcohol - why can't we make those choices? Because somebody controls the range of choices that you have for THEIR benefit, not for the benefit of society, not for your benefit.

They're playing you and you are falling for it.


Where do I even start.

First off I am free and not just because I can own a gun. I do own guns, but I do for self defense and just for fun target shooting. That right is afforded to me by the constitution.

Now I can see what you are trying to say about how it wasn’t written for me, but at the same time it protects me just the same. If I am arrested I still get my 6th amendment rights. If I want a gun I can just drive a few minutes to the local gun store and pick up one. I don’t’ have any felonies, haven’t been committed to a mental institution, etc so I do have that right.
Also take a look at our elected officials today and tell me that they aren’t elites. Even the CBC is full of elites. We still vote them in to protect our RIGHTS and they too take the oath to uphold the constitution of the US. So when the CBC members vote to give illegal immigrants citizenship which hurts lower skilled blacks, ask them if they are thinking about the interest of the lower skilled blacks.

Now I can see where you are going with the drugs. Yeah they outlaw marijuana and cocaine and allow alcohol. They also outlaw sawed off shotguns below 18 inches and fully automatic weapons, but I can still buy semi-auto weapons, single shot guns, revolvers, etc.

Now tell me how I am being played because I choose to own a gun. If YOU don’t want one then don’t’ get one. You can forfeit that right, but don’t try to take away my RIGHTS because you don’t’ like them.

I will once again I will ask. What about the Black Panthers and deacons for Defense that had firearms for self-defense. What about the blacks that had guns in their house and cars for self defense against the KKK and others? Did they not need the 2nd amendment?



llr: The choices that people in this society make ...

2007-04-18T14:42:00.000-04:00

llr: The choices that people in this society make are "conditioned." The desires/wants/needs of us are conditioned by media, by the owners of media who, coincidentally, own the country. You think you're free because you get to own a gun, because someone told you you had some right to it? You aren't free - not because of some second ammendment.

I mean, who were those men who wrote that, God? They were elites who were only concerned about their class interests. They weren't thinking about yours.

Have you thought beyond that? That some so-called rights might be worth forfeiting, particularly when tremendous harm is caused by that right you hold so dear?

No, a right is a right is a right, RIGHT? They criminalize pot and cocaine, but legalize alcohol - why can't we make those choices? Because somebody controls the range of choices that you have for THEIR benefit, not for the benefit of society, not for your benefit.

They're playing you and you are falling for it.



The founders could never have imagined that the Se...

2007-04-18T12:20:00.000-04:00

The founders could never have imagined that the Second Amendment would allow people to The founders could never have imagined that the Second Amendment would allow people to buy a crate full of machine guns over the Internet, for "personal use."

That is so untrue. First off when you say machine guns I assume that you mean fully automatic weapons which have been outlawed for decades, so you can’t “buy a crate full of machine guns over the Internet, for "personal use." Then when you do buy a gun off the internet you MUST have it shipped to a gun dealer in your state who then does the background check after you have filled out a 4473 form! Please state facts.

I hate/love it when people try and use buzz words like machine gun and assault weapons. Would you please define machine gun for me and post a link to a website that sells them by the crate. Yeah I’m calling you out!



If American Blacks have a Constitutional right to ...

2007-04-18T11:15:00.000-04:00

If American Blacks have a Constitutional right to own guns, then why are we so often shot for holding cell-phones that only LOOK like guns? Let's get real!

There's plenty of room in the Second Amendment to harmonize and interpret it's requirements in a new way that becomes consistent with the survival of American civilization, before its too late.

The founders could never have imagined that the Second Amendment would allow people to buy a crate full of machine guns over the Internet, for "personal use." The Second Amendment is being interpreted too broadly to be consistent with the survival needs of 21st Century American civilization.

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Owning a gun is NOT a God given right! It’s a con...

2007-04-18T02:34:00.000-04:00

Owning a gun is NOT a God given right!
It’s a constitutional right just like freedom of religion, speech, etc.

They call the gunman insane; no, this is the insanity that produced HIS insanity.
His guy was insane. It’s that plain and simple. Let’s say that eh went form dorm room to dorm room with a big knife hacking off people’s heads. Would we be talking about machetes?

Who needs a gun, indeed, Plez?
I can think of a bunch of people in Darfur that can use some firearms. I’ll go back o what I said earlier about the Black Panthers and the Deacons for Defense. They had guns but according to your logic they should have been unarmed.

That a product of death takes precedence over people's right to life itself, explains what this country REALLY is all about. They sell cancer called cigarettes, they sell guns that put holes in people. The real inviolable right is the right to make money off of misery.
Smoking is a choice. If you don’t’ want to smoke and possibly get cancer then don’t smoke. If you don’t want a gun, then don’t buy one. Once again it is a choice. What about Planned Parenthood and abortion? Are they making money off of misery? Are abortion clinics across the country selling death? Does that mean that because we allow abortions that we are all about death?



BTW: Plez had the post of the day.Owning a gun is ...

2007-04-18T02:02:00.000-04:00

BTW: Plez had the post of the day.

Owning a gun is NOT a God given right! I mean people act like their gun is a crucifix or something, like its a part of some religious ceremony that's inviolable. They call the gunman insane; no, this is the insanity that produced HIS insanity.

Who needs a gun, indeed, Plez? I'd rather those deads kids were here, instead of some bogus right to a gun. That a product of death takes precedence over people's right to life itself, explains what this country REALLY is all about. They sell cancer called cigarettes, they sell guns that put holes in people. The real inviolable right is the right to make money off of misery.



I guess that means anthrax isn't dangerous and sho...

2007-04-18T01:35:00.000-04:00

I guess that means anthrax isn't dangerous and should be available over the counter at your local drugstore.

Last time I checked there was no constitutional amendment that gave people the right to anthrax. Like Anthrax, guns are already regulated. You can’t be a felon, declared mentally nuts, illegal immigrant, etc.
There are a ton of things that we can kill people like knives (available in most kitchens across the nation) cars (people die in car wrecks every day) water (people drown people all of the time). Then there are the people that choke people to death. The list can go on and on.

Just because we may not agree with someone’s religion, that doesn’t mean that we should get rid of the 1st amendment. Just because we don’t like the fact that cops can’t just bust into a known drug dealer’s house doesn’t mean that we repeal the 4th amendment. Just because we got someone on tape killing or stealing doesn’t mean that we don’t give them their 6th amendment rights. Do I need to go on?

Gun rights don’t violate any one else’s rights any more than some one else’s religions violates my rights.
Westboro Baptist Church intends on protesting at the funerals’ of the slain kids in Virginia. Personally I think that’s just sick, but hey it’s constitutional. This is the same church that protests the funerals of slain soldiers. As mad as it makes me there is nothing that we can do unless they actually break the law. They aren’t “harming” anyone by protesting, but I just think that it’s sick that they protest at the funerals of people that have given their life for this country.

For all of the people that want “reasonable gun control laws” like limiting purchases to one a month, think about this.
Right now we have a problem with STDs like HIV and AIDS. In order to slow down the spread of these horrible diseases, the gov’t is going to limit all citizens to one different sexual partner a month. We are also going to have a national registry of all people that have AIDS and keep up with them. If they have sex with anyone w/o the disease they must use a condom. To not do so would be a felony.

People would be outraged. They would be calling for the politicians’ heads, but when it comes to guns (which are protected by the 2nd amendment), oh it’s OK.



The "Francis" above, who says, "For the longest ti...

2007-04-18T01:05:00.000-04:00

The "Francis" above, who says, "For the longest time I've supported the war . . . " has got nothing to do with the Francis L. Holland Blog. I don't know WHO the "Francis" above is!

The NRA says, "Guns don't kill people. People kill people." Likewise, Anthrax doesn't kill people. "People kill people" with anthrax. OK, NRA. Thanks for clearing that up for us! I guess that means anthrax isn't dangerous and should be available over the counter at your local drugstore.



But IMHO, of course they needed them! There ws a f...

2007-04-17T22:34:00.000-04:00

But IMHO, of course they needed them! There ws a f*****g revolution going on for crying out loud! Those brothers were set for extermination by the cross dresser and his ilk.
Who is to say that another revolution isn’t on the way? People are always talking about the crimes that white people are committing against black, but they want to take away a means of defense. People are always talking about domestic violence committed by women against men, but they don’t want the women to have a firearm.

And I was right, you are passionate.
Hell eyah I am passionate about my rights. I would be just as upset if the gov’t was trying to regulate my religion, speech or take away anymore of my RIGHTS!

But will you acknowledge at least, that the Second Amendment as it stands today is not exactly what the framers intended?
Let me see. Last time I checked there will always be self-defense. Plus we never know what the gov’t is going to do. LOL


I mean, WTF? Do we really need "bushmasters", Uzis, and AK 47's to hunt bambi?
No but they are still protected by the 2nd amendment. It says that it shall not be infringed.

And what about our law enforcement officials who honestly believe that they are being out gunned by the criminals?
Looks like those police depts. Need to upgrade equipment and hire more officers.

Shouldn't we be trying to protect them. I mean can we at least get a compromise on this? Let's at least ban certain assault weapons in this country. Why won't the NRA consider that? It is hardly slippery slope territory in my book.
Field there are already tons of outlawed guns. Automatic weapons are already banned by the feds. You can’t have a shotgun with a barrel less than 18 inches. Do you need me to name more for ya? There are thousands across this great country. Now are you telling me that you think that the politicians in the gov’t know what’s best for me and my gun selections? Also please define “assault weapons” for me. Please.

I can remember when Katrina was going on and the gov’t was taking away guns from law-abiding black citizens. It was the NRA that was coming to their defense. It was the NRA that was lobbing Congress to make sure that it never happens again. It was the NRA that was fighting for the gov’t to return those guns to black folks.

With a all of the gun laws on the books, criminals still manage to get guns and law-abiding citizens are getting screwed. DC is a prime example of this.



"Oh I forgot. What about those Deacons for Defense...

2007-04-17T22:10:00.000-04:00

"Oh I forgot. What about those Deacons for Defense and the Black Panthers that had guns during the civil rights era? They didn’t really need them did they? "

llr, I definately detect the sarcasm when you ask that question.
But IMHO, of course they needed them! There ws a f*****g revolution going on for crying out loud! Those brothers were set for extermination by the cross dresser and his ilk.

And I was right, you are passionate. But will you acknowledge at least, that the Second Amendment as it stands today is not exactly what the framers intended?

I mean, WTF? Do we really need "bushmasters", Uzis, and AK 47's to hunt bambi? And what about our law enforcement officials who honestly believe that they are being out gunned by the criminals?

Shouldn't we be trying to protect them. I mean can we at least get a compromise on this? Let's at least ban certain assault weapons in this country. Why won't the NRA consider that? It is hardly slippery slope territory in my book.



AI, I will put my cards on the table right now; I ...

2007-04-17T21:45:00.000-04:00

AI, I will put my cards on the table right now; I am pro gun control. But I am also a realist, and I understand that we can never abolish the Second Amendment in this country. But I would like to see sensible gun control laws. I am glad that you are honest about your views. At least you’re not one of those “I support the 2nd amendment but” people. I mean I get the whole I need to hunt, and I should be free to own my own weapon thing. But I live in Pennsylvania, and why shouldn't the city of Philadelphia be allowed to pass seperate gun legislation for Philadelphia County than the rest of the state? (which is very rural and big on hunting)Now in my opinion most gun laws are unconstitutional. It’s that simple. I can understand some of the laws like not letting people have guns in prisons and stuff like that but other than that, most gun laws are just BS. They are just “feel good” laws. When you take away the right to carry at a particular place you are actually making yourself less safe because it’s like shooting fish in a barrel. You can’t carry in a church (at least in my state) so if a shooter or robber wants to have a easy robber or shooting the best place would be a place where people are unarmed. We have heard about shooting everywhere. We have had them at schools, churches, post offices, but we have never heard of any shooting at an NRA convention now have we. In D.C. they tried to ban handguns (The will of the people in the District) and the courts struck that down. Come on Field. They had a gun ban for 30 years and I don’t care what the will of the people is when it comes to RIGHTS. Let’s say that 80%+ of this country may be Christian and the “will of the people” is to abolish other religions. Would you support that b/c it’s the will of the people? That’s the thing about rights. They can’t be taken away by the will of the people. Anotehr thing is that my right to bear arms doesn’t infringe on anyone else’s rights. How does it hurt anyone that I may have 3 dozen guns in my house and 5,000 rounds of ammo? Not at all. The same way that it doesn’t hurt me that someone may be a Muslim, Catholic, etc. Let's be honest, the NRA is such a powerful lobby, that there is not a politician who would dare to stand up tp them. So we can't even have an honest and pragmatic debate on this subject. They are powerful because they are protecting real rights. The 2nd amendment is not just some law. It’s a RIGHT. And llr, I will always welcome your views. No matter how much we might disagree, it's never personal. Anon in Oakland is very pasionate, and obviously so are you. So hey, let's get it on. That's why we have blogs, to argue,reason, and learn from each other;as well as exchange ideas. Thanks Field. I think that I may pull up a chair.I am sick and tired of people always wanting to take away my and other people’s rights. You just can’t do that. No one is trying to ban freedom of speech, religion, or the press because the constitution was written hundreds of years ago before the internet, radio, TV, or blogs. What about the 4th amendment. Times have changed. Wouldn’t it be OK to put a camera in every citizen’s house and we will know who commits what crimes. What about the 3rd? I am sure that you won’t mind housing a few soldiers for a few nights. Don’t we need to get rid of the 6th amendment? I mean times have changed and since we now have cameras in each house there is no need for a tr[...]



Sorry to be lacking in the comments. I am still in...

2007-04-17T21:26:00.000-04:00

Sorry to be lacking in the comments. I am still in awe of this whole situation. I live on campus and if Virgina Tech is any thing like Louisiana Tech I do not see how a man can kill people in the dorms and then walk all the way to the main campus. That is a horrible and sad thing.



AI, I will put my cards on the table right now; I ...

2007-04-17T21:06:00.000-04:00

AI, I will put my cards on the table right now; I am pro gun control. But I am also a realist, and I understand that we can never abolish the Second Amendment in this country. But I would like to see sensible gun control laws. I mean I get the whole I need to hunt, and I should be free to own my own weapon thing. But I live in Pennsylvania, and why shouldn't the city of Philadelphia be allowed to pass seperate gun legislation for Philadelphia County than the rest of the state? (which is very rural and big on hunting)

In D.C. they tried to ban handguns (The will of the people in the District) and the courts struck that down.

Let's be honest, the NRA is such a powerful lobby, that there is not a politician who would dare to stand up tp them. So we can't even have an honest and pragmatic debate on this subject.

maxjulian was also right. The level of frustration and marginalization felt by many in this country, is a direct result of living in this moral contradiction known as America.

And llr, I will always welcome your views. No matter how much we might disagree, it's never personal. Anon in Oakland is very pasionate, and obviously so are you. So hey, let's get it on. That's why we have blogs, to argue,reason, and learn from each other;as well as exchange ideas.

And AI, you are right, the current House Negro needs a bigger picture and house Negro recognition for more than just a day :)



And Field!!Can we get a bigger photo of the House ...

2007-04-17T18:25:00.000-04:00

And Field!!

Can we get a bigger photo of the House Negro please?

And I say...leave her up there for the remainder of the month....
She deserves "Honorary House Negro" status.