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Field,Given the fact that I live here in South Flo...

2008-05-06T21:14:00.000-04:00

Field,

Given the fact that I live here in South Florida, the story on the doctor was relevant, real and yes, inspiring. That being said however, given the political climate in which we now find ourselves along with the brouhaha about this Black man running for president and NOT standing up for Rev. Wright or the truths of which he spoke, THIS Black man chose to stand up for what is right and true regardless, as opposed to the senator from Illinois who chooses what is politicaly expedient, I thought the D.A. story was more important to highlight.



deb, thanks for that story. Way to stand up for yo...

2008-05-05T18:39:00.000-04:00

deb, thanks for that story. Way to stand up for yourself. I say that 60 minutes piece, and yes that project is FNOTD worthy. Actually, the doctor in the other piece with the clinic in Haiti impressed me even more. There are some really good people out there.

lmb, you might be right,I might need to be more proactive instead of just talking shit on mu blog. Although I thought I did enough now. But it's never enough when you find stuff to complain about.

"Also you gotta figure that if the employer paid a good wage, the coffee would cost a lot more."

Actually I did. Maybe the owner could cut HIS profit margin. I am not sure how the Dunkin Donuts franchising works, but they might want to consider cutting back on the money they pump into things like ads. and expansion. I don't think they want to end up like Starbucks. They have been losing a lot of money lately.



Having worked for tips as a youth, I have no probl...

2008-05-05T18:06:00.000-04:00

Having worked for tips as a youth, I have no problems leaving tips.

Also you gotta figure that if the employer paid a good wage, the coffee would cost a lot more.

Consider making your own coffee. Much cheaper and the quality is much better.



ha, lest anyone suspect you aren't really a negro....

2008-05-05T17:49:00.000-04:00

ha, lest anyone suspect you aren't really a negro..



I tip everybody most of the time (unless the servi...

2008-05-05T15:32:00.000-04:00

I tip everybody most of the time (unless the service really sucks). I started to notice how hard some of these folks work at food and coffee establishments and know that they don't get paid very much. I make a point to tip at places where I go frequently.

I used to resent the tip cups but I got over it. Guess it's the only part of my old butt that is mellowing because everything else under the sun seems to piss me off two times.



I only tip if effort is involved: bringing food to...

2008-05-05T11:58:00.000-04:00

I only tip if effort is involved: bringing food to my table/car, driving to bring me food, having to accomodate allergies, etc.

I overtip the pizza guys, since around here most of them are students and need the cash. I only tip at Sonic when I order food (usually $1)because again, most of the carhops are students (but they make minimum wage).

But anywhere that I have to stand in line and bus my own table, does not give my $.



When I have enough money to go to a restaurant or ...

2008-05-05T10:54:00.000-04:00

When I have enough money to go to a restaurant or a cafe to buy coffee and food, I have enough money and expect to tip. When I go to a Dunkin Doughnuts, I have been know to look for change in the bottom of my car seat, just to pay for coffee. It is not a place I expect to tip. Most customers there are not high income people.



Yesterday I was standing in line @ Panera Bread an...

2008-05-05T10:03:00.000-04:00

Yesterday I was standing in line @ Panera Bread and looked down and noticed a tip cup aimed towards a charity organization...Now, I was left to only think, how am I certain that a charity is going to get this money??



[quote]Employers need to pay employees a living wa...

2008-05-05T08:09:00.000-04:00

[quote]Employers need to pay employees a living wage which directly reflects their value to the total profits received. [/quote]deb - (sorry Deacon Blue for me having the nerve to talk to other posters on Field Negro's blog without getting YOUR permission)This point made by you doesn't make much business sense to a company seeking to keep its doors open in the long run.Let's get beyond the politically correct label of "the living wage" and make note that it is pure and simple MORE MONEY paid to the employee so that he can pay his bills at home. Why must this increase in money taken home be done under the auspices of "a living wage" movement? I assume that the government is involved in the middle of this - making some type of mandate. Again I can't help but to note that many of you acting as CONSUMERS are not willing to pay a worker a tip just because there is a cup on the counter and they did nothing to earn it. For some strange reason when you take the same argument to the EMPLOYER/EMPLOYEE relationship you lose the same train of logic and expect the employee to pay the employee a wage that is beyond the intrinsic value of the labor provided to the company. This is why I call employers "consumers of labor" and employees "sellers of labor services" in order to more clearly communicate the other side of the coin which all of you operate upon. Your argument is that THE CONSUMER OF LABOR is obligated to determine the SELLER OF LABOR SERVICES' needs at home and to establish an hourly rate that is commensurate with this amount. Shouldn't the seller of labor be more in tune with what he needs at home and improve the value of what he sells so that more money can be received?WORSE YET you then throw in the PROFIT remark.First question Deb - of the food service establishments that go out of business - isn't the LACK OF PROFITS the main reason for this? Worst of all think about what you are proposing! Deb has a "Deb's Coffee Shop". You put up $150,000 of your own savings to secure the lease, furnish the store, purchase the relevant equipment and advertise. Your investment allows you to be a CONSUMER OF LABOR and also a seller of goods and services to your customers. All of the RISK is on your back! You have $150k of your own money on the line as well as several contracts with your name on it. In you argument above you are telling us that when the REVENUES come in which pays for the utilities, rent and the agreed upon salary rate for those who are selling their labor services to you. On top of that you must pay both your own salary AND restore that initial $150,000 investment that you sunk into the business to give it life in the first place back into your personal bank account. (If this were a bank loan this would not be an optional payment)In considering your proposal you claim that you would take the remaining money and split it with the SELLERS OF LABOR despite the fact that they agreed to be paid a certain rate but more importantly they get to clock out and their burden for your business problems are tuned out of their minds? You can't be serious.With most small businesses there is no gusher of cash rolling in. (except drug dealers) Many are barely making it until they build up a sufficient clientele. If the business does fail it is YOU left holding the bag - especially if you took out a bank loan (or worse a loan from friends/family based on your personal credit in the relationship with them) to start it up. They are not looking to the EMPLOYEES to pay this back. They are looking to YOU. The employee laid off after your store closes can go find a new job, her hands washed of the entire situation. If you are a start up business and you tell any employee about your tenuous situation and set up an agreement up f[...]



"Here is something that these owners might want to...

2008-05-05T05:09:00.000-04:00

"Here is something that these owners might want to consider: pay these folks a decent wage and lose the damn tip cups."

Then Field, you have to tell the owner this. Either to his face, or a letter to management, or one of your eloquent Op Eds in the paper of your choice.

You're an attorney. You know how to write. You have clout. And, to paraphrase Orwell, you have more clout than others b/c you have a bad*ass blog.

Plus, I know you know this is emblematic of the labor rights mess this country is in as a result of the last couple of C-Club Administrations letting corporations run riot over people generally.

Don't let your populist voice go to waste. You know ol' boy/girl wouldn't be giving you Stank Face if s/he were making a decent hourly.

(Although some folks will always find something to SourFace about, but that is not the focus of this post. Carry on.)



Field,I'm 100% with you on this one! Employers ne...

2008-05-05T02:30:00.000-04:00

Field,

I'm 100% with you on this one! Employers need to pay employees a living wage which directly reflects their value to the total profits received.

Here's a true story:

When we lived in the Keys a few years ago, my husband went to a pretty well-known sports bar/restaurant to watch a Giants' game (we didn't have "the Dish" and Comcast only played local, Dolphins' games). He got shitty service (beers and appetizers only, but she was MIA for most of the game, causing him to often go to the bar and get his own shit), so he left a shitty tip to make a point.

Normally a mild-mannered, better-than-average tipper, he left $1 on the approximately $30 bill. (hennasplace, trust me, they were lucky. I, like your family member, would have picked that $1 right up if I'd been there! I'm known for tipping over the accepted percentage if the service is good and picking up what he leaves or leaving a penny for their troubles if the service is bad! I refuse to pay for anyone to treat me like shit! It's the principle of the thing in my book. Constructive Feedback, I get the "value of services provided" to the "amount of compensation" ratio.).

Anyway, the next week, we went back down there together (it's a small town and this place was usually a great hang-out) to watch a Giants vs Redskins game (a brutal rivalry in my house!). We sat in a different station, but the young lady from the week before was also working. Game's over, we head out to the car and homegirl follows us out into the street because she recognized him. She proceeds to berate him for the shitty tip he left THE WEEK BEFORE!

She was talking cash shit about his "cheap ass" and he's right back at her about her "shitty, almost non-existent service." I'm standing there looking at her like WTF??? Then a few other white guys walk up to see what's going on (you have to live in this town to get how people are). I'm the only Black person in the bunch and I get in between them, telling her she's not "entitled" to a damn thing since tip, in my book, means "to insure proper service" and she'd not provided same.

Finally we all go our own ways, but I'm piissed. I write a letter to the owner telling him calmly what happened (my mind is like a steel-trap for details). I told him I thought this incident should be my next column the following Saturday entitled "T.I.P.S. - to insure proper service" (I had a weekly Opinion Page column in the local paper).

In a week, I get a reply in the mail. The server had been fired and we got coupons for free drinks, dinner and/or appetizers for 6 months! Since I so hate expediency in the face of what's right, I wrote the column anyway, never went back and gave the coupons to some locals who would not normally go there because the prices were so high.

As a society, we seem to keep lowering the bar for what is considered appropriate in the public realm. For some people, that's okay. For me, there's a standard of care I expect to be observed and reciprocated - particularly if I'm paying your ass! Tip cups fall way below that standard if you're only ringing up my shit (but I WILL put my change in the "take a penny, leave a penny tray by the register.)

Hey Field, can I nominate someone for the Field Negro/Honorary Field Negro of the Day sidebar? I saw this on 60 Minutes Sunday night and I think D.A. Watkins deserves your FNOTD nod and an Honorary FNOTD nod to The Innocence Project. Here's my post on the story. Follow the links to the videos - good stuff!: http://lets-be-clear.blogspot.com/2008/05/new-dallas-dacraig-watkins-and.html



What I don't like about tip cups is that there usu...

2008-05-05T00:20:00.000-04:00

What I don't like about tip cups is that there usually isnt a "give a pennytake a penny" tray (which I need in my life) OR a lil charity jar if a tip cup is around.



I apologize for jumping to conclusions Mr. Field N...

2008-05-04T22:55:00.000-04:00

I apologize for jumping to conclusions Mr. Field Negro, suh! I's mighty sorry bout da misunderstandin' boss man. Accept my analogy, please!



I'll give money to the MS jar etc... but not the t...

2008-05-04T22:42:00.000-04:00

I'll give money to the MS jar etc... but not the tip jar. I read up on your Negroe of the Day. Those pricks were wearing burkas, dressed like Muslim women. Argggg. May 72 angry Virginians assault them in the afterlife.



I tip very well. However, I feel the system shoul...

2008-05-04T22:25:00.000-04:00

I tip very well. However, I feel the system should be overhauled. No sense in hurting the waiters because of their bosses though.



In some places, why should I have to pay an automa...

2008-05-04T21:49:00.000-04:00


In some places, why should I have to pay an automatic 10%-20% "tip for the chef" on my bill if I'm doing a take out? Also why are some sit down joints now putting the tip automatically on your bill? This is so wrong.


I know seriously! I was getting take out from some organic food restaurant with a friend and they did that. We walked straight back in there and complained and they sent us off with some bullshit excuse about computers.

And to top it all off the food was horrible. Never going there again.

Frankly, if you're not serving me then you're not getting a tip. Delivery people are the exception.



Field, I'm not surprised others feel that same way...

2008-05-04T20:33:00.000-04:00

Field, I'm not surprised others feel that same way. Another thing that bothers me...

In some places, why should I have to pay an automatic 10%-20% "tip for the chef" on my bill if I'm doing a take out? Also why are some sit down joints now putting the tip automatically on your bill? This is so wrong.

Now, I believe in giving tips, but shouldn't these things be illegal?



"if they deserve it , give them the money." That's...

2008-05-04T18:51:00.000-04:00

"if they deserve it , give them the money." That's just it, IF they deserve it. They don't.

"Considering the fact that you probably make 6 figures a year, plus some nice ad revenue from this blog, you should tip people."

zack, I give more in tips at one trip to one of these joints than I get for an entire year from Google. And because of the nature of my job, I can't promote political ads., so no money there. Hey the server is free, so I am not knocking them. But trust me, I am not getting rich blogging. This is a labor of love.

As for my real gig. Hey man, I am a public servant; how much money can I make doing that?

judiphilly, I wish we had more workers like that :)

Sorry jody, you are lucky enough to live in CC. Here in the NE there just aren't that many good coffee spots.

steve-md/dc thanks for that info.

"Did you bother to ask the cashier if he or she had any hungry kids to feed at home before deciding not to give them a tip?"

Nope, I didn't care.



Speaking of tips...have you check out the price fo...

2008-05-04T17:49:00.000-04:00

Speaking of tips...have you check out the price for 4-7 days cruise and then it is expected to leave a tip...$1000-$1750 more than this year for 2009 (Disney cruies)....and on top of that we have to pay a $7 per day for fuel surcharge for each passenger..for a family of four it is going to be rough (max $112)...for a little family enjoyment....I guess some people would recommended stay home but I enjoy going on Vacation...so I guess not tipping is your choice...



FIELD NEGRO - I LOVE YOUR BLOG AND CAN TELL THAT Y...

2008-05-04T17:43:00.000-04:00

FIELD NEGRO - I LOVE YOUR BLOG AND CAN TELL THAT YOU AND I HAVE A FEW THINGS IN COMMON - NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS TELLING IT LIKE IT IS. AS FOR THE TIP CUP, I COULD NOT AGREE MORE. IT IS PART OF THE CONTINUING DEGRADATION OF THE BEAUTIFUL CAPITALIST TRADITION OF TIPPING IN AMERICA WHERE FINE SERVERS ARE REWARDED FOR FINE SERVICE. FOE SOME REASON EVERY SERVER SEEMS TO THINK THEY ARE OWED 15% FOR ANY ACT AS SIMPLE AS SCRATCHING THEIR ASS CRACK IN YOUR DIRECTION AND I PERSONALLY BEG TO DIFFER AND I FAULT BOTH THE NON-TIPPERS AND OVERTIPPERS FOR THIS DEGRADATION. I NEVER TIP THESE CUPS AND I HAVE NO GUILT FOR IT WHATSOEVER. IT IS ONLY THE MILQUETOAST PUSSY-BOYS (AND GIRLS) THAT FEEL AN OBLIGATION BECAUSE THE CUP IS THERE AND HAPPENS TO HAVE A BUCK IN IT. REST ASSURED THIS BASTARD TRAVELER IS NOT EXACERBATING THIS PATHETIC STATE OF TIPPING AND WILL DO EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO RESTORE THE GLORY TO TIPPING. IF YOU DOUBT, CHECK OUT THE BASTARD TRAVELER'S THOUGHTS ON THIS IMPORTANT TOPIC (CLICK).



History tells us that many service employees were ...

2008-05-04T17:16:00.000-04:00

History tells us that many service employees were AfAms and didn't 'deserve' minimum wage. Social Security didn't include many occupations held by AfAms. So, my policy is that everyone but christianists gets the minimum wage. Duggars and the like can raise their whelps on whatever the neo-cons wnat to pay them.

Mold



Funny you should mention this. Last night, on my ...

2008-05-04T16:45:00.000-04:00

Funny you should mention this. Last night, on my way home, I stopped at our pizza place in Mt. Airy (my husband usually picks up pizza, not me). The young guy behind the counter was nice & I was in a good mood, so I decided to give him a tip, even though there was no jar. He said no tip, adding that he didn't need a tip, he was cool enough without one.

I laughed and shook my head in amazement that he refused a (generous) tip!