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TO: vbspursRE: Family Portraits"I agree this part ...

2008-05-05T16:42:00.000-05:00

TO: vbspurs
RE: Family Portraits

"I agree this part of him should play no role in choosing him as President, but why can't people see a happy family, and a loving dad which until proven otherwise, they seem to be?" -- vbspurs

I have no problem with Obama showing off his family. I see a 'happy family'.

My 'problem' is not with Obama. It's with why it should sway Althouse. Altering her perception of reality.

Where's Dr. [Instawife] Helen when we REALLY need her?

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[I've studied abnormal behavior for years. And I STILL don't understand women. -- Dr. Sigmund Freud; probably at a cocktail party after too much champagne]



The only recurring theme, in my pastor's sermons i...

2008-05-05T13:01:00.000-05:00

The only recurring theme, in my pastor's sermons is that the church could use a little more in the collection baskets this week.

Yah, mine too. We tend to skip the anti-American propaganda, as well as the Hate-Whitey incitements to riot, and go straight on to spiritual matters.



df4150Ann, your comment is, quite surprisingly, pa...

2008-05-05T11:22:00.000-05:00

df4150Ann, your comment is, quite surprisingly, pathetic. A picture of a politician waving his kids around in public is something that endears Obama to you? Get a grip, woman. Contrast it with how a real man [if not a real conservative] acts, from the Boston Globe:
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Asked during an interview this fall about his reluctance to bring attention to his expansive brood, the normally loquacious John McCain, who is unabashed on any number of topics, seemed uncomfortable.

"It's intentional," he said. "I just feel it's inappropriate for us to mention our children. I don't want people to feel that, it's just, I'd like them to have their own lives.

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Obama's girls are enough of a reason not vote for him. I'm sick of only girls in the white house. We havent had a boy in the white house for decades. Time for a change.



Since you're so familiar with pantheism, Kirby, th...

2008-05-05T11:08:00.000-05:00

Since you're so familiar with pantheism, Kirby, then what's your excuse for not understanding its compatibility with lyrics that ponder an absence of heaven or religion? Dementia? I mean as long as you're going to be an ageist prick endlessly spouting non-sequiturs - this time about the ethical consequences of a specific theology. Which had exactly nothing to do with whether it could fit the song Imagine.

But as long as you're going to continue to obsess on the moral superiority of Near Eastern religion, theists and deists have no better claim to an ethically sound system. They just ascribe catastrophes, illness, etc. to a supernatural entity and thoughtlessly assume those events must have either been deserved (does any pantheist say that inhuman actions, natural or human, are "deserved"?) or part of an inexplicable purpose. Either way, those are convenient ways to justify not having an answer and to promote the sort of arguments from ignorance that you get with ID and other red flags of organized religion's (self-imposed) decreasing relevance. It might be bothersome for some to know there's nothing wrong with an ethics that doesn't demand a reliance on iron-clad, empirically nonsensical theological underpinnings. But not for me.

Maybe it's not that the blog keeps posting. Maybe it's that some make it a point to contribute to the threads in ways that are irrationally indignant and by perpetually responding to arguments that were never made - and with even weaker ones of their own, at that.



who weekly emphasizes the perfidy of the white rac...

2008-05-05T09:28:00.000-05:00

who weekly emphasizes the perfidy of the white race, its attempt to wipe out blacks with disease, the evilness of America, its horrible sins against the rest of the world, how its run by murderers and terrorists, how the entire white race is set up to "grind down" the black race.

Another person who thinks twenty years of Wright's sermons amounts to the Fox News highlight reel set on autorepeat. Do these people even go to church, much less Wright's church? The only recurring theme in my pastor's sermons is that the church could use a little more in the collection baskets this week.



Ann posts so often that there's not much time to r...

2008-05-05T08:51:00.000-05:00

Ann posts so often that there's not much time to respond.

The Montana legend argues that most of us here have a simple viewpoint and have never been exposed to things like pantheism.

I would argue that since this is an older person's blog, the problem is actually with the Montana Legend. That is, he's young, and as such, he's busy being confused and drawn off into any and every option, which most of us have already looked at (i.e, pantheism) and rejected.

According to Schopenhauer, pantheism has no ethics.

And this is the reason I rejected it in my early 20s.

It may take some people longer to realize that of all the available options, the best one is not by any means pantheism.

If everything is Godlike, then it is impossible to explain how some things (like Manson or Lenin to say nothing of Lennon) just aren't Godlike (even if they think they are).

At any rate, we've moved way way on, I see, past the divinity of mosquitoes...



* cue Cyrus/Amanda *Cyrus: Aha! Gotcha! You can't ...

2008-05-05T08:43:00.000-05:00

* cue Cyrus/Amanda *

Cyrus: Aha! Gotcha! You can't really tell who's lurking out there. Its obvious you are lying.

Fen: Its a hypothetical -

Cyrus: Learn to read a dictionary, idiot. Hypothetical means blah blah blah ad infinitum.

Fen: Regardless, I'm not lying.

Cyrus: I never said you were.

Fen: ........



ObamaLurker thought: That was a setup, scripted. F...

2008-05-05T08:22:00.000-05:00

ObamaLurker thought: That was a setup, scripted. FLS is obviously Fen's SockPuppet Foil.

Nah, he's just playing the Straight Man in this act.

ObamaLurker, we have a special on deprogramming this week. You might want to enroll before the post-convention rush.

Here's a brocure:
Not The Man I Thought He Was
Overcoming the shame of being taken for a ride



FormerLawStudent: I would like to buy a copy of th...

2008-05-05T08:04:00.000-05:00

FormerLawStudent: I would like to buy a copy of the right-wing distorting lens, so I can see the world as commenters do here.

It would be cheaper to just remove the distortion lens you are wearing now.

But I don't think it would be good for my mental health:

Do you want the Blue pill or the Red pill?

Michelle Obama said ONE time, that for the first time in her adult life she was REALLY proud of her country. Here, "really" is used as an intensifier. It does not say anything about her normal level of pride in her country.

Well said. You really thrashed that strawman. Bravo!

*smacks fls on head, knocking out distortion lens*

How does it look now? Better or worse:

Michelle Obama said one time, that FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HER ADULT LIFE she was really proud of her country.

So... that will be $10 for the head smack. Would you like to use your insurance, or just pay in cash?



Hey Ann:Consider for a moment that Obama and his w...

2008-05-05T01:22:00.000-05:00

Hey Ann:
Consider for a moment that Obama and his wife have been exposing those 2 little girls, for their entire lives, to the execrable Rev. Wright, who weekly emphasizes the perfidy of the white race, its attempt to wipe out blacks with disease, the evilness of America, its horrible sins against the rest of the world, how its run by murderers and terrorists, how the entire white race is set up to "grind down" the black race.

The Obama's seem to be doing everything they can to, contrary to Obama's public utterances, extend the feelings of victimization and, frankly, black bigotry against whites, damaging chances for reconciliation or racial progress, into the next generation.

Far from being touched or moved by the Obama's behaviour toward their daughters, I think there are ample reasons to charge the Obama's with child abuse. They have exposed these beautiful little girl sot the foulest evil ranting by a bigoted old racist WEEKLY their entire lives. Who knows what these girls think, or how they consider their white gramma, (who according to Obama is a racist) let alone the rest of the "evil and greedy" white race.

Think about that when you are gushing over this pretty family portrait.



I would like to buy a copy of the right-wing disto...

2008-05-05T00:52:00.000-05:00

I would like to buy a copy of the right-wing distorting lens, so I can see the world as commenters do here. But I don't think it would be good for my mental health:

Michelle Obama said one time, that for the first time in her adult life she was really proud of her country. Here, "really" is used as an intensifier. It does not say anything about her normal level of pride in her country. This reminds me of complimenting women I have known. When, after they've obviously put extra effort into their appearance, I spontaneously commented that they "look really nice today, only the paranoid freak whackos complain "I guess that means I look like dogshit every other day. Next time keep your opinions to yourself. Asshole." Normal women take it as the obvious compliment it is, and thank me. Similarly, people are psycho to conclude, from her one statement spontaneously expressing pride, that Michelle Obama has not continuously been proud of her country.



Michelle Obama is saying her husband is boiling ma...

2008-05-05T00:35:00.000-05:00

Michelle Obama is saying her husband is boiling mad, about people questioning him about Wright.

But, he wants to hug Ahmadinejad after he nukes Israel, not bomb him. Hillary is too harsh.

Michelle Obama is the gift that keeps on giving. Angry, resentful, fairly stupid, and mouthy. With a huge dose of entitlement and wealth most would envy.

She's Cynthia McKinney with a degree.

And yes, she makes her husband look like a weak, hate-America radical. [Mostly because he is.]

I'm impressed with "Happy Warrior" Hillary. She's really become quite good at politicking. Obambi? Not so much.



I don't get it. Those two girls look like insuffer...

2008-05-04T22:18:00.000-05:00

I don't get it. Those two girls look like insufferable suburban brats to me. It oozes from their faces. And I seen plenty enough to spot it a mile away. I can only imagine the screeching "I want it NOW!" Verucha Salt episodes that must go on in that household.



rcocean said..."Judge-wise, vote for McCain and yo...

2008-05-04T22:00:00.000-05:00

rcocean said...
"Judge-wise, vote for McCain and you'll get another Kennedy, vs. one more Ginsberg - big whoop."

Even if that was an accurate summary (and I don't think it is - look to McCain to nominate someone in the ballpark of Alito), there is a world of difference between Kennedy and Ginsburg. I don't much like Kennedy, but he comes out on the right side more often than not, while in non-unanimous cases, it is very rare - BMW v. Gore / Phillip Morris and Apprendi and its progeny, for example - to find Ginsburg on the right side. There is a lot of difference between nominating Consuelo Callahan and Diane Sykes, but there's a world of difference between nominating either of those versus nominating Harold Koh, for example, or (God help us) Barack Obama.

"Meanwhile, on immigration, trade, foreign policy, global warming, and social issues McCain will be cutting deals with Ted Kennedy."

You keep insisting that McCain's a social liberal without putting on the table any examples. It seems to me that the only example of a social issue where his position might be characterised as "liberal" is ESCR. And as to the other things, those issues are a wash, because Clinton will be just as bad if not worse. Your mindset is stuck in the primaries, RCocean: you need to get past the question of whether McCain's the best Republican to nominate, and get into a general election framework. McCain is the nominee, he's better than either of the democrats, and if you don't think so, not to put too fine a point on it, either you're not paying attention, or you're not a republican (and you're certainly not a conservative).

"Further, elect McCain and you'll get filibuster proof Democrat majorities in 2010. By 2012 the electorate will be so sick of 12 years of Bush-McCain they'll vote for Rev Wright for President."

Doubt it. Not if McCain manages to be the one thing Bush has never been: competent. It's not the policies that the public's objected to (with the exception of privatizing social security), it's the incompetent execution.



Mock,Your "detailed" response is rather atypical f...

2008-05-04T21:53:00.000-05:00

Mock,

Your "detailed" response is rather atypical for this board. Usually, commentators here are known for their thoughtful posts.

Adios Amigo.



rcocean,Can't you say anything coherent about how ...

2008-05-04T21:47:00.000-05:00

rcocean,

Can't you say anything coherent about how Obambi will be better for conservatism than McCain?

No, I guess you can't.



Cute kids, but what are they going to be like afte...

2008-05-04T21:12:00.000-05:00

Cute kids, but what are they going to be like after a few more years in Rev, Wright's Sunday School?



I'm out of the loop. Are those the Fritzls?Sorry, ...

2008-05-04T21:10:00.000-05:00

I'm out of the loop. Are those the Fritzls?

Sorry, Victoria, I guess it's been a while.

Family photos. The real story.



Victoria:The word "dildoes" doesn't have the tripl...

2008-05-04T21:09:00.001-05:00

Victoria:

The word "dildoes" doesn't have the triple-entendre, and, in any case, my sentence doesn't work without the one to which it was the response.

Regards,

RIA



Amy Carter was a lovely child. Her father was a te...

2008-05-04T21:09:00.000-05:00

Amy Carter was a lovely child. Her father was a terrible President. I'd just as soon history not repeat.



Black Americans have a different narrative of hist...

2008-05-04T20:54:00.000-05:00

Black Americans have a different narrative of history than whites. I try to read Chomsky or Howard Zinn or Fanon and throw the book down in disgust. Thoughtful blacks read these books and nod in agreement as the scales fall from their eyes. I don't dislike Barack or Michelle, but I think they have a certain unease with certain core American values--and given our history perhaps they should. But I'm not ready to vote for someone who thinks Michael Moore is a great talent. (Even so, their kids look terrific and maybe the next generation will look upon Michael Moore the way we loook upon D W Griffith.) My narrative of American history is that things get better.



"I'm embarrassed to admit what a powerful effect t...

2008-05-04T20:48:00.000-05:00

"I'm embarrassed to admit what a powerful effect this has on me."

At least you admit you're embarrassed. And so you should be. It might help if you imagine the children in burkas.

If you think it can't happen wait til he demoralizes the U. S. military and gives al Qaeda an unimaginable boost by letting them off the mat in Iraq.

And John K

Despite your ridiculous self adulation you are delusional when you accuse the United States of warmongering. Helping a nascent democracy establish law and order in the face of terrorist attacks is peacemaking.

And if the peacemakers are withdrawn before peace and order are established the war will continue, not end. So if you want to see a warmonger I suggest you look in the mirror.



Mock,So here we go again. Vote for McCain or Puppi...

2008-05-04T20:32:00.001-05:00

Mock,
So here we go again. Vote for McCain or Puppies will die. Judge-wise, vote for McCain and you'll get another Kennedy, vs. one more Ginsberg - big whoop.

Meanwhile, on immigration, trade, foreign policy, global warming, and social issues McCain will be cutting deals with Ted Kennedy.

Further, elect McCain and you'll get filibuster proof Democrat majorities in 2010. By 2012 the electorate will be so sick of 12 years of Bush-McCain they'll vote for Rev Wright for President.

I'm sick of this short-term thinking.



but why can't people see a happy family, and a lov...

2008-05-04T20:32:00.000-05:00

but why can't people see a happy family, and a loving dad which until proven otherwise, they seem to be?

I see it. But it simply reminds me of the racist filth they've exposed their children to. And makes me wonder what they will become.



should be judged on their plans for governing and ...

2008-05-04T20:27:00.000-05:00

should be judged on their plans for governing and the likelihood they will accomplish what they say they will.

Speaking of that, didn't Pelosi et al offer you guys something about Iraq if you elected them into office? How's that working out? And don't you feel like a total sucker?

And you want us to trust your side's advice on foreign policy during a global asymmetric war?