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To Lion of ZionThe OU relies heavily on Chabad for...

2008-05-07T11:33:00.000-04:00

To Lion of Zion

The OU relies heavily on Chabad for their kashrus work. So maybe you should not rely on the OU anymore for their hashgacha.

Maybe the Chabadskers point is that even if there is an issue the way that the Rabbi addressed it was incorrect.

Bsuros Tovos

Joel



Chaim:As I wrote in an earlier post:"I agree with ...

2008-05-06T22:14:00.000-04:00

Chaim:
As I wrote in an earlier post:
"I agree with Rav Belsky that 'present-day Chabad has become a personality cult centered on the previous Lubavitcher Rebbe.' The fact that other chassidim do it as well, only less so, is not a defense. Indeed, the chassidic Rebbe-centric approach was one of the reasons the Vilna Gaon opposed it. That Chabad now takes it to an even greater extreme is perhaps predictable."

And there certainly appears to be truth to that statement, even from your own post of the subject, which I read before posting any of this. E.g. you write "The Rebbe is with us spiritually and we use his love, his wisdom, his Torah and his words to guide us every day. Maybe Rav Belsky wants us to just get over it already and file the Rebbe away somewhere in a history museum. That is not how we act, that is not how Chassidus works, and I thought that wasn't how Yiddishkeit worked." This is *exactly* a personality cult.

This may certainly be *cast* in the framework of Rebbe/tzaddik-centered Judaism, but I think that firstly this approach is wrong, and further that even within this approach, this takes it over the top. The meshichists are *possibly* just a symptom of the underlying problem, which is this improper general focus. And the comments I cited from CrownHeights.info, and other comments I did not cite, convince me further of this.

Kol Tuv,
Josh



If you think he's correct then you don't know Luba...

2008-05-06T21:30:00.000-04:00

If you think he's correct then you don't know Lubavitch, you only THINK you do. You don't know me, that's forsure, and I am the furthst thing away from what he describes to be "modern day chabad", in fact none of my friends of family is anything like he thinks we are. This is pure Sonei Chabad. Same attacks, different decade.



and there's also his comments about modern Orthodo...

2008-05-06T19:29:00.000-04:00

and there's also his comments about modern Orthodoxy... but i guess most MO people have probably never heard of Mishpacha, much less read it.



It's ironic in historical perspective: when the Ch...

2008-05-06T17:13:00.000-04:00

It's ironic in historical perspective: when the Chassidim insitituted "Chassidishe shechita," such shechita was banned as treife. The Chassidim, for their part, placed a ban on meat which had not been slaughtered the new Chassidishe way - as trefe.

Looks like we're going full circle.



"I no longer can rely upon his kashrus."now that i...

2008-05-06T16:06:00.000-04:00

"I no longer can rely upon his kashrus."

now that is an ironic statement, considering that some won't rely upon a chabad hashgacha