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Comments on: Wafaa Bilal Has Terror “Art” Pulled From RPI



I can't believe that came from your mouth!



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By: Pat

Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:41:34 +0000

Ah! My bad. He was saying the art was of Bush being bombed or tortured. Not that artists were bombed or tortured. I still want to see links proving his assertion. And I stand behind my assertion that this was not racial, and yes, Win is still a big flaming lib.



By: Lose

Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:10:17 +0000

"I know white artists who have made art involving Bush being bombed, tortured, or worse since the invasion of Iraq and none of them were attacked by the press or by Republican groups." Pat, I don't think Win said anything about white artists being bombed and tortured. Read the above. And their are accounts of racial slurs being yelled about Wafaa during the protest. You can find them on youtube if they have not been taken off. And there have been white artists who have created anti-bush art who have not had this kind of reaction. You can find them all over the place on college campuses and on online art communities. I think a lot of it does have to be with Wafaa being Iraqi. Maybe not so much a racial issue as an ethnic issue. There is a difference. I also think it is naive of you to assume that Win is a liberal (you obviously associate liberal with Democrat though there is such thing as liberal Republicans and conservative Democrats) just because he said something negative about the actions of some Republicans does not mean he/she is liberal. He/she may very well be a Republican. Personally, I don't think politics has anything to do with this debate nor should it decide if you regard a persons post or not. I'd also suggest that you read more about the artist or contact him yourself before jumping to conclusions about what his art is about. Considering the fact that Wafaa was tortured by Saddam's men I doubt very much that he supports terrorists. With video art and installation art you sometimes have to read to know what is going on.



By: Pat

Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:55:47 +0000

Win, you lying fool. Care to provide any links or other evidence to support your assertion that white artists were bombed or tortured? You sound like a kook. Its not a racial issue, no matter how badly you liberals wish it could be.



By: Win

Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:30:34 +0000

I know white artists who have made art involving Bush being bombed, tortured, or worse since the invasion of Iraq and none of them were attacked by the press or by Republican groups. Maybe if they were of a different color they would have had more heat placed upon them. It appears that Wafaa is being singled out because of his color, not to mention the fact that there are recordings of people at the protest yelling sand you-know-what. You guys can talk big all you want and call Wafaa a disgrace all you want but the simple fact is that I doubt you could endure the torture that he endured during Saddams regime.



By: Upstate NY

Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:05:56 +0000

Walter: What about if it was a "brown artist" who had an "exhibit about killing terrorists"? I fail to see why you had to point out that the artist needed to be white in order to avoid any controversy with the exhibit. This suggests to me that you're missing the point, entirely. It wasn't about the color of Mr. Bilal's skin, but the content in his "art" exhibit. His other art exhibits remained on RPI's campus, and RPI even kept this particular one--"virtual jihadi"--open to the RPI community for at least a day after it was initially suspended. Also, he was not denied freedom of speech in any way, shape, or form. RPI offered him a forum through which he could discuss the controversy and closing of this particular part of his exhibit, but he refused. He had the chance and said "no". RPI elected not to pay for the showing of his exhibit and they were well within their rights to do so as a private institution. Moreover, it was only recently unveiled to the RPI community that the RPI Arts Department--who brought Mr. Bilal to RPI--did this "under the radar" with as little advertisement as possible, and without notifying their superiors (including but not limited to the Provost of the institution) that they were bringing Mr. Bilal to campus with RPI funds. I don't know what you think about this, but to me, that makes it blatantly obvious that they were pushing an agenda and knew that they wouldn't be able to get away with it if they had to have it "cleared", first. Sneaky. And if Mr. Bilal is so used to controversy and, in fact, open to it because he thinks it generates discussion on his art themes, then why did he fold as soon as any amount of pressure was put on him?



By: Pat

Wed, 19 Mar 2008 04:53:56 +0000

Walter thanks for your input on the discussion. Did Bilal go to jail? If not, I fail to see how any freedoms were taken from him. And you fail in your comparison of him portraying attempts to assassinate Bush to white people killing terrorists. Its not the same thing. Much of Bilal's art is ripped off of other artists. Some is really cool and clever and I like it, but it is still not completely original.



By: Walter

Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:19:26 +0000

I might add that Wafaa is not a struggling artist. He was a main feature at Scope in the past and he teaches at SAIC. My guess is that he is not hurting in the money department. As for the comment about the game not being art because he did not create it to begin with that is like saying that a painting is not art because the artist did not make the canvas or that an artwork involving found objects is not art because the artist did not create the found objects.



By: Walter

Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:16:01 +0000

Brian Sherwin just interviewed Wafaa and this issue was mentioned. You can find it at http://www.myartspace.com/blog I personally think that Wafaa's freedoms have been ripped from him. If a white artist had an exhibit about killing terrorists there would have been no controversy.



By: Upstate NY

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:05:19 +0000

To fix a mistake in my above post so it makes more sense: *but I'll BET she hasn't a clue who I am. By the way, I was just amused that the person I was responding to all along was someone I know. It's a small world, I guess!



By: Upstate NY

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:58:47 +0000

No, definitely not a local celebrity, but she did lead a pro-abortion crusade in the capital region. I actually know her more intimately than that (nothing indecent, I promise!), but I'll be she hasn't a clue who I am. She's not a bad person, just a huge feminist of sorts--a very vocal one, at that.