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a digital magpie



Updated: 2016-10-24T13:44:47Z

 



By: Phil Ringnalda

-0001-11-30T00:00:00Z

That went quick: between the time I started writing and the time I got around to closing the tabs from writing, my target page had disappeared from the results. In-ter-esting.




By: Phil Ringnalda

-0001-11-30T00:00:00Z

Also in the in-ter-esting files: the usual suspects are already noting that you get an ”Add to MyYahoo!” link for RSS, but not for that evil Atom. Well, search for salad with steve, you get an ”Add to MyYahoo!” for his old index.rdf, which redirects to his Atom feed, which gets added just fine. They also point you to my index.rdf, which has been silently returning my RSS 2 feed for almost a year, to exactly one person’s dismay. The moral? This version crap doesn’t actually matter, unless you need an element from one particular version, and know that you have a consumer who will properly use that element. Mostly, feeds is feeds.




By: Mark

-0001-11-30T00:00:00Z

My Yahoo supports Atom. http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/001585.html

They may not support Atom autodiscovery yet though.




By: Phil Ringnalda

-0001-11-30T00:00:00Z

Even though lots of people are talking about it as autodiscovery, I don’t think they are using autodiscovery at all: my index.rdf hasn’t been autodiscoverable in forever. My first guess would be that they are working off something like Syndic8’s directory. Wonder if it was an initial load, or if I can affect it by changing what Syndic8 has to say about me?




By: Scott Johnson

-0001-11-30T00:00:00Z

By the time I got around to reading this article, you were ranked 9 on Yahoo and still 1 on Google.




By: Phil Ringnalda

-0001-11-30T00:00:00Z

By the time I got around to reading your comment, my target was number one and I was number 11 on Yahoo!. From this computer, searched by typing the URL search.yahoo.com/search?p=how many cows in texas in the address bar, at 12:28 PST. Wonder if it’s just load-balancing with different results at different data centers, or if their motto is going to be ”Yahoo! Search: bringing variable results to new highs!”.

That, by the way, is one of those things that intrigues us, and annoys the crap out of ordinary human beings, who will quite often make search a regular part of their navigation (I’ve seen people who check their email at Yahoo! by searching for Yahoo in the Google search box that’s on their defaulted browser home page).




By: Phil Ringnalda

-0001-11-30T00:00:00Z

For those Firefox users who’ve forgotten since the last time a new and usable search engine showed up: go to http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=whatever, bookmark it, putting the bookmark in the Quick Searches folder, then Manage Bookmarks, Properties for that bookmark, replace the whatever with %s, type yahoo in the Keyword field, and then yahoo dirty pictures typed in the address bar will take you to what you hope is something other than the same boring results.




By: aroon

-0001-11-30T00:00:00Z

just fyi, for you IE + windows xp users: if you grab the TweakUI windows xp powertoy, you can do the same thing with IE




By: aroon

-0001-11-30T00:00:00Z

im kind of skeptical of your theory on how yahoo is checking url strings for search words [at least i think thats what you’re saying]. when i search for ’pure imaginary’ at yahoo, the first result is my almost year old blogger.com blog, followed by a gamer who shares my blogs name, and finally, in third place, my current blog site: http://www.pureimaginary.com/pi.

http://www.pureimaginary.com is currently ranked 5th. by your theory [if im understanding correctly], i would expect pureimaginary.com to be ranked first, followed by purimaginary.com/pi, and then who knows what.

also to note, viperstyx.net [my second domain which points to the same page] isnt even listed on the first page of results. if, however, you search for ’pure imaginary aroon’ its ranked second, below the old blogger site and above pureimaginary.com [the commonly used domain].

thoughts?




By: Phil Ringnalda

-0001-11-30T00:00:00Z

My vague memory of my point was that if you have a page for red hats, a page for colors of hats that includes red, and a page for hats, that includes a link to colors and explains that red is one of them, that Google’s a bit more likely to deliver the red hats page, and Yahoo’s a bit more likely to deliver the colors page, or even the hats page. True or not, I’m still not sure.

Your actual case, though, is much easier. Domain name and path keywords are worth something, but they need to be backed up in the page: if famous-celebrity-naked.com doesn’t include any mention of her, only text about weekend pills, it won’t rate for the celebrity in question.

Your Blogspot blog had the target words in the URL, and in an H1 headline. That’s very powerful for those words. Your current blog has the words in the URL, and the words with spaces between each letter (i.e., in search engine terms, not-the-words) in an anonymous, bolded div. That’s likely to make a search engine suspicious of you for those words. Replace that div (or at least the bold tag, depending on what works and what else is in the div and styled by it) with an

, take out the spaces between letters, and then style it to look the same with CSS, and next time they update rankings you ought to see a turnaround (depending, of course, on whether you’ve still got way more links with the blog name in the anchor text pointing to the Blogspot URL than to the new one: that’s hard to overcome with just in-the-page factors).