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By: marcia

Tue, 11 Sep 2007 04:14:49 +0000

I agree...on the buildings...and the terrible food.



By: Himself

Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:12:03 +0000

I actually like what the McMenamins do architecturally. And since many of their joints have liquor now, I don't have to drink their micro-swill. But damn, their food sucks. Ah, well, kudos to them for preserving/restoring old buildings at least.



By: marcia

Mon, 10 Sep 2007 06:10:36 +0000

conundrum Pronunciation: k&-'n&n-dr&m Function: noun Etymology: origin unknown 1 : a riddle whose answer is or involves a pun 2 a : a question or problem having only a conjectural answer b : an intricate and difficult problem That's what we've got. I remember when my kids were entering fourth and second grade at Peninsula...and I (being the the visionary I am..) was looking ahead to middle school and saw Portsmouth looming...and that was NOt an option at the time...So we went to MLC which was a perfect fit for my hippie family....BUT...looking BACK I see that in making that choice, I robbed my neighborhood school of 2 very bright kids and 2 involved parents...But..what was I to do? I also remember the dismay of the Peninsula principal at the time...and a couple of teachers...Now I am a teacher at a North Portland school...we accept lots of transfers...some of our best families, by the way..and the transfers keep our numbers up...Also...now that we are going to K-8...some kids are choosing to leave at middle school and yes...we feel the pain...SO......looking at this conundrum from both sides...I can only say...What is the solution? I do not know. And I don't think anyone else does, really. Fix all the schools...fix poverty...fix the dysfunctional society we live in? ??? Where do we start? And Hockey God...sorry about the McMenamins allusion...I forgot I was dealing with a PBR boy.



By: Himself

Sun, 09 Sep 2007 23:51:39 +0000

BeamontWilshire, we're allies, I believe. I think we all want what's best for our kids, and are doing the best thing we know how to make it better (or keep it from getting worse). I invite you all to join the Neighborhood Schools Alliance, and give common voice to our common concerns. As far as an animosity amongst concerned parents, I suggest folks read this.



By: BeaumontWilshireResident

Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:40:18 +0000

Himself, Steve Brand was pointing the finger at a group of neighbors/parents instead of at the real problem causing segregation in PPS - the ultra liberal transfer policy. And he could just as easily point the finger of blame at these other parents who participate in the neighborhood to neighborhood transfers (instead of addressing the real issue). I'm all for shutting down the ultra liberal transfer policy and looking at the boundaries district wide. I hate to pull the 'just one person' card out, but at least a few of us in our neighborhood stood up and said 'enough is enough'. All we can do is point out our personal situation (the board's blunder in closing our neighborhood school and not addressing the boundaries). Can one small group of people really ask the board to make a broader policy sort of change and expect any real result? Maybe more people in other neighborhoods with similar situations should do what we've done. You might disagree with me, and I feel like if you can personalize your concerns in voicing them to board members, it can be more impactful. Can you see how our questioning the board about the Meek closure and the lack of boundary change might just get them thinking about the bigger picture? Or how one neighbor's speech about the transfer numbers in our neighborhood paints a picture of disconnection with the currently assigned schools? What makes the other parents on this blog (admitting to participating in the neighborhood to neighborhood transfers) so different from me or my neighbors? Are they doing what they feel is best for themselves/their children and not necessarily the entire PPS population? Hmmm!



By: Himself

Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:06:37 +0000

Don't get me started on McMenamin's again.



By: marcia

Sun, 09 Sep 2007 16:51:16 +0000

I guess what makes me really mad about Kenton closing, was we didn't even get a McMenamins out of the deal. We just got a bigger catholic school and another charter. DANG! (just musing) If they could work a deal with McMenamins to locate in all the closed buildings, maybe we'd shut up.



By: Himself

Sun, 09 Sep 2007 15:30:13 +0000

I can't speak for Steve Brand, but I think what he criticized was one neighborhood group trying to change the boundaries just for themselves. What's being discussed here is the elimination of neighborhood-to-neighborhood transfers, which would require a district-wide reevaluation of attendance boundaries, special focus programs, and exceptions to the rule. I understand your frustration, but I hope you can see the critical differences in what's being discussed here and what Steve Brand was talking about.



By: BeaumontWilshireResident

Sun, 09 Sep 2007 04:49:06 +0000

So, it isn't just the folks in the Beaumont-Wilshire Neighborhood Association that want to change the boundaries so that their homes are assigned to the schools that are closest to them! Why isn't Steve Brand showing up here calling Kari, Nicole or WackyMommy gentrifying segregationists too?



By: Vespabelle

Fri, 07 Sep 2007 03:35:08 +0000

the posting by Sue Hagmeier on this topic is here: http://www.blueoregon.com/2007/05/decisions_schoo.html My elementary school closed in 1978. Since then it's been rented to a private school (Preschool-4th grade) My middle school closed in 2006 and is now a charter school. (the kids in the district now feed into one middle school with 1,200 kids! scary!) My high school closed in 1991 and has since housed a public alternative program (for dropout types), a private religious school and now a hoity toity middle school.