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The media pundit's pundit. Written by NYC insider Jeff Jarvis, BuzzMachine covers news, media, journalism, and politics.

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By: Julian Morrison

Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:18:43 +0000

I can stream on Linux with mplayer, which may also exist on OS X. However, you may be seeing the result of a server-side glitch: 18DS tends to transmit absolutely nothing, rather than a holding pattern, when they're not transmitting content. When i tried to stream before the show began i got the same symptom, a second of bzzk! and the stream stopped.

By: Francis

Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:03:23 +0000

The streams seem to require Microsoft Media Player - ideally embedded in your browser. This rules me out since for a whole variaty of technical, security, DRM-allergic and basic hate microsoft reasons I have the most minimal media player I can get away with and I refuse to let that unreliable insecure piece of junk run anything automatically in my browser anyway. Mind you I don't know that that is the case for sure because there is no technical FAQ that might help explain whether or not that is the case, but seeing as what I'm being asked to look at is a video/x-ms-wmx one that seems pretty certain to be the case. I wouldn't have thought it would be too much trouble to dig up an alternative (almost any alternative) streaming platform so that there would be a couple of ways to view content.

By: iain dale

Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:15:07 +0000

As Tim W helpfully points out, I missed out a Y in my email address. It's iain AT 18doughtystreet DOT com

By: Tim Worstall

Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:06:18 +0000

18 Doughty Street Now this is of course a terribly minor glitch in a brave adventure and from what I hear the programmes aren't too bad. However, Jeff Jarvis is getting pretty frustrated at not being able to watch on his Mac. OK,

By: jvon

Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:03:32 +0000

Live streaming works fine here (XP Pro). Streaming of old content does not; for some reason it causes WinAmp to launch, which has no idea what to do with the file. Personally I do not fiddle with the config of my desktop machine to view websites as a matter of policy. If everyone did that, I'd spend all day fiddling.

By: iain dale

Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:16:05 +0000

Isn't it funny how virtually everyone else reports no problem in streaming the site? Have you ever thought it could be something to do with your computer, rather than at our end. Obviously when you start something like this there are always a few teething problems and we are sorting them out, but for 98% of people it seems to work fine. What email did you use? Send something to me at iain AT 18doughtstreet DOT com and I will get our technical people to look at it.

By: Michael Rosenblum

Thu, 12 Oct 2006 06:00:59 +0000

Jeff I can see it here in Singapore, but it is probably better when you can't see it. the buildup was great, 100 cameras, cuting edge, webcasting. When I look at it, it is TERRIBLE! The content is TERRIBLE! It looks like BBC 1962. 22 year old in suits and ties in swivel chairs having endless boingly dead politcal discussions, all seemingly shot with fixed cameras and lit and put through a switcher. For webcast!! Talk about 'don't get it'. TERRIBLE! Better you can't download.

By: KirkH

Thu, 12 Oct 2006 06:00:13 +0000

Jeff, saw this and had to post this on your site. The backlash has begun. Have a look at this horrendous speech by P. Diddy about "buying" a channel on YouTube. Now look at this unfamous person's reponse to his disturbing promotion. Her video stats: Views: 534,196 Comments: 2025 Favorited: 670 times Honors: 20 show That's street justice.

By: PJ

Thu, 12 Oct 2006 04:03:15 +0000

I just tried to watch live streaming of NHL games on Yahoo. It kept asking me to login and it re-booted the feed every few seconds before going black. If you have any windows users with XP, one option is to download Windows Media Player 11 beta 2: Other users can try Media Player Classic, which is a catchall for a lot of different formats: Good luck.

By: KeithB

Wed, 11 Oct 2006 20:01:39 +0000

I'm in Safari, I followed the link in your article, clicked on live feed on the 18 Doughty St site, and had video and sound in about 5 seconds - the geezer is going on about community policing and the prison issues. Pop up blocking is off, I'm on DSL from Orange in the UK, I do have the current flash player and the flip4mac plug in for quicktime installed. Hope you get your system sorted. I rather like the Web site - big bold text and clear links - but then I have no design sense at all according to the missus who is a designer.

By: Pauline Ashley-Wilkes

Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:50:07 +0000

Oh dear. That is the most butt-ugly site I've ever laid eyes on! Stick with those good 'ole southern gals of TrueGritz for a much better time.

By: Kevin Marks

Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:30:31 +0000

Jeff, You set me off on a rant about Flash video too. Geeks can be bad, but to really screw things up you need marketers after lock-in.

By: 18 Doughty Street » What The Blogs Say After The First Day

Wed, 11 Oct 2006 14:27:18 +0000

[...] “I have been trying all day to watch 18 Doughty Street, the new British online political network. They have made this needlessly, stupidly complicated. Never put technology in the hands of pols. Damned disaster.” – BuzzMachine [...]

By: leon

Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:50:11 +0000

If that didn't float your boat perhaps this might be more to your liking:

By: Thomas Knuewer

Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:22:04 +0000

The layout is a jungle - but the streaming works perfectly here in Germany, even though I'm behind a fire wall whicht is normally more solid than the chinese wall.