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By: Mentoring Worldwide » Blog Archive » Don’t speak! Point! (thanks to Ethan)

Thu, 08 Jun 2006 18:26:24 +0000

[...] Amongst the speakers Howard Rheingold and Paul Saffo put the politics back in the mix for which I was grateful. Amy Goodman was a revelation to me and a breath of fresh US air as we don’t get Democracy Now in the UK. Ethan Zuckerman (sharing a platform with Dan Gillmor and Hong Euan Tek) when asked in their session about citizens media by some bright spark whether Editors were still relevant. managed to summarise in one nifty line ” Don’t speak. Point!” everything the WE MEDIA conference didn’t manage to say in two days. “Point to People and get out of the way!” the old days of advocay as speaking on “behalf of people” are so over. The way I see the role of the Mainstream Media in the debate about user-generated content and the blogosphere is to be a decent facilitator or moderator. It’s hard for an editor to change herself/himeself into a facilitator the skills come from different mindsets …but some are having a go. We talk about this a lot at the BBC where I work and now it’s time for the walk. [...]



By: MediaBlog » PopUp - een tussenbericht

Thu, 11 May 2006 21:37:46 +0000

[...] Laat ik er wat highlights uithalen. Rijp en groen. Heb Blogonomics gemist, maar zag dat Peter Olsthoorn in Netkwesties een goed overzichtverhaal heeft gemaakt, waarin hij nog maar eens opnieuw een boom opzet over de journalistieke kwaliteit van weblogs, een onderwerp dat ook al eerder op MediaBlog aan de orde kwam (hier en hier). Dat thema ook in een verhaal van De Nieuwe Reporter over de We Media-conferentie. En nog meer bij Jeff Jarvis van BuzzMachine (en nog meer. [...]



By: eon » WE media

Thu, 11 May 2006 15:24:15 +0000

[...] *** “WE Media announces a survey on trust in various media in 10 countries. But the problem is, as David Schlesinger of Reuters said after it was presented, it is a mistake to concentrate on media. It’s absurd to say that you trust or don’t trust an entire medium: Do you trust books? Do you trust British people?” right on [...]



By: eon » we media

Sun, 07 May 2006 10:48:15 +0000

[...] right on [...]



By: The Big Cod

Fri, 05 May 2006 15:04:21 +0000

The BBC, Reuters, Al Jazeera and Richard Dreyfus….. how’s that for an anti-American lovefest. It’s an assemblage of the least trusted media corporations on the planet. Yes, this would be to conflate the tiny community of bloggers who go on about "moonbats" and "fisking" with "the planet".



By: bit torrent

Thu, 04 May 2006 22:41:48 +0000

> The BBC, Reuters, Al Jazeera and Richard Dreyfus….. > how’s that for an anti-American lovefest. > It’s an assemblage of the least trusted media corporations > on the planet. Sorry Penny you are way out of order with that comment. The BBC is one of the most trusted news sources in the world. Many Americans turn to the Beeb too.



By: Will Pollard

Thu, 04 May 2006 08:26:21 +0000

Jeff, "Transparency" that sounds good. So why is the al Jazeera memo subject to the Official Secrets Act? why is there not the same energy to get this published that there is to get the Davos tape? Bertrand Pecquerie surely has a good point in saying that the policy to target journalists is where the story should be, not whether someone has made a statement outside what US media consider normal. I have put similar points in stories for OhmyNews. http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?article_class=3&no=289490&rel_no=1 http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?article_class=4&no=289490&rel_no=2 Will



By: Jochen

Thu, 04 May 2006 07:54:55 +0000

Very good summary of what happened yesterday at a pretty lame, not at all inspiring forum. But the thing that I'm still missing is the consideration of the wider audience, the public, the people in the street. The discussion in the room represents only ~5% of the population. And yes, bloggers like to think they represent the people, but I think they are in no way different than the people on the panel. Just thinking about themselves as the we and the people on the street. ignoring that we're all only representing a minority. Not because of the digital divide, but of either the time divide or the interest divide (or maybe even intellectual divide). I hope we get to more inspiring discussions today!



By: sam

Thu, 04 May 2006 07:47:20 +0000

it goes without saying , that the area of trust attributed to the media has shrunk considerably . now-a-days , media has restricted it's political reporting , and , has entered into areas which were hitherto untouched . does'nyt this show , that over the years , the entire role and functioning of the media has changed , if not radically , then , at least , partially.t



By: g7uk » The BBC, public participation and ‘user generated’ content

Thu, 04 May 2006 03:02:54 +0000

[...] I had to laugh today when one blogger at We Media revealed that the BBC hadn’t provided electrical sockets for people to plug their laptops into. They were sitting in one of the biggest studios at BBC Television Centre, surrounded by technology and electricity. But, once his laptop battery was flat, that would be the end of any blogging for him at this all-day event about ‘participatory media’. [...]



By: CaptiousNut

Thu, 04 May 2006 02:26:02 +0000

Holy incoherence.



By: .M.

Wed, 03 May 2006 22:38:48 +0000

Richard Dreyfuss and his screed, as you put it, may not have been welcome but I don't think it was either too long or irrelevent to the discussion. Most of the speakers today could have been discussing toasters for all the passion and credibility they conveyed. Play it safe guys! That'll solve it... I for one thought our "celebrity activist" did OK with a quietly hostile (and flat) crowd.



By: hugh macleod

Wed, 03 May 2006 21:25:28 +0000

I heard some of this on BBC World Service earlier today. Interesting to think it was broadcast around the world. Sorry I missed you this time round, Jeff. Next time =)



By: Bobbie Johnson

Wed, 03 May 2006 20:29:48 +0000

"It’s an assemblage of the least trusted media corporations on the planet." Hopefully the "lemmings" here will challenge *this* egregious statement... I couldn't give a flying whether particular contributors are Americans, non-Americans, pro-Americans or anti-American. It's got nothing to do with what's happening in 99% of the world, 99% of the time. And that's whether you're a journalist, a blogger or just a human being who's fed up of every single thing being politically hijacked by one moronic partisanista or another.



By: penny

Wed, 03 May 2006 19:30:58 +0000

The BBC, Reuters, Al Jazeera and Richard Dreyfus.....how's that for an anti-American lovefest. It's an assemblage of the least trusted media corporations on the planet. Who cares what that crowd thinks, for God's sake. Their unrelenting anti-American biased reporting disqualifies them for intelligent considerations of trust. And throwing in as cheesecake some lefty actor, whose career has long been over, as guest speaker doesn't bode well for restoring trust either. “For 100 years after the Civil War,” he says, “it was perfectly acceptalbe in America to pull over to the side of the road and kill any black person you happened to see.” Message to Dreyfus: that hyperbole is crap and totally unsupported by facts. Bet none of the journalism lemmings in the room challenged his egregious statement which is why bloggers will eventually trounce these fools as the years roll by.