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By: Irish Election » Late to the Party (But not the Interview) - ROTV to Return?

Wed, 14 May 2008 22:38:40 +0000

[...] Bloggers rejoice as John has this news over on his blog. Yet Rock the Vote are launching their campaign on May 19th (or so I’m told)! Well after the day and date of the vote has been decided on and less than a week before the closing of the voter registration date. [...]

By: steve white

Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:34:54 +0000

you being bit hard on the youth damien in this post and the other privacy one, im sure there are young bebo users who care about their privacy and as pointed out nobody really bothers to protect things until there are threatened negatively... they've hard enough campaigns at this stage is there no young bebo users privacy movement organised by young bebo users? protecting not just drunken pictures but use of data by commercial groups trying tho sell me pooducts are these young bebo users not aware of digital rights as much as and because of people your age , do they not read the register too? you mean young non-geeks

By: Joe

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:57:23 +0000

Well Simon, one could (not my own view) say "Seriously, normal young people don’t care about political parties or their policies" or "Seriously, normal young people don’t care about bloggers or their ideas" Just like technology, the benefit of youth parties is quite hard to quantify

By: simon

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:49:25 +0000

Out side youth parties no one gives a crap about youth parties. Seriously normal young people don't care about youth parties or their policies.

By: Will

Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:24:43 +0000

If you want to persuade kids, then you go to where the kids are... just ask the pushers. As to how to do it... in the case of twitter.. Something else about the lack of privacy... Based on what said, he didn't believe that there would be enough irish bloggers uner 20 to fill a bedroom let alone a ballroom. How much of this lack of privacy concern is from a feeling that no one is interested in what they are doing anyway. So 2008 for a new digital rights movement?

By: dahamsta » Google’s Dictionary

Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:20:30 +0000

[...] about privacy though? Damien contends that the new kids on the block don’t care about privacy, and he’s probably right, but [...]

By: lexia

Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:36:10 +0000

I tend to agree with John Handelaar here. Politicisation of young will only come when a cause motivates their generation. This motivation is invariably against a policy that the ruling political classes take as a given. The 1960's had Civil Rights movement, 1970's the drive for Equal Rights for working mothers. These movements were underlined by real economic or libertarian reasons. Today's world is much more liberal and liquid - robbing society of large groups of disenfranchised youths. The idea of using a short-form communications system such as Twitter as a means to build a ground-swell of young, well-informed voters from the grassroot is intriguing. However, this will only happen when the motivation for change is felt by a large enough group. Again, Ireland's recent economic success and centrist government ensure that Jamie and Saoirse Bloggs are more worried about buying the new Gucci clothes or flying with their mates to G'staad. A spark of political rebellion, must be flamed by a growing number of young people disgusted with what the government does in their name. I don't see it happening quite yet. A cause needs to be championed.

By: Joe

Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:32:16 +0000

"The web is here and is already strongly influencing the next generation of voters" I would argue that the web is just another tool and it is the people who use those tools that do the influencing. "Nuke all the childish “Yoof” wings of the parties to start with" - that has to be one of the most undemocratic, top-down, autocratic things that you could do and it seems to come from a baseless assumption that they simply follow the main party. disclosure: I am a member of one of those "Yoof" wings

By: Mark

Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:10:55 +0000

I have to agree with danger. I was doing some research a couple of years ago on on-line communities and what effect they have on people. My supervisor asked me to give a talk to one of his groups of students. During my talk I brought up several of the points you did (namely how with more and more personal information available on people, how that would effect our ideas about privacy and acceptable behaviour when it came to getting a job or running for elected office). At first the students thought it would be great and that people would end up being much more honest and genuine. Then I told them that I had gone on-line and looked at their bebo pages and that their lecturers had been doing the same thing. They all looked shocked and by the end of the week several of them had set their pages to private. Trust me they care about their privacy once they realise who could be keeping tabs on them. I think there will be an effect for the good but it will be much less strong than you currently seem to think.

By: John

Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:35:03 +0000

Nuke all the childish “Yoof” wings of the parties to start with. They’re a new generation trying to be the old generation and already serverely disconnected from what their own generation want and are interested in and they grow more disconnected each day they live the youth wing life. They are mini-me versions of the existing people we all despise. Not being a cool, with it, net type person like yourself obviously, what pary is the problem with youth political parties? How are they disconnected from the lives of other young people? I’m not sure what exactly will be the way to do it, but the way politics is done will have to change because even if the existing parties fight for the status quo, someone will come along and tap into the new generation and the disaffected and suddenly they’re a powerhouse. Indeed, like the current US president, the Democratic who likes to scream. What's his name again?