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Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto.



Published: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 23:06:42 +0000

 



By: Big Lizards

Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:44:10 +0000

Jobbed by the Watchman!... I've never seen this before, but there was a tie in the Nouncil voting this time... and the Watcher in the Weirds broke the tie by giving his extra point to the one he liked best. Which would be perfectly......



By: Dodgeblogium » Blog Archive » ISP bullying

Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:45:14 +0000

[...] you may or may not already be aware, members of the Watcher’s Council hold a vote every week on what they consider to be the most link-worthy pieces of writing around… per theinstructions, I am submitting one of my own posts for consideration in the upcoming nominations process. Here is the most recent winning council post, here is the most recent winning non-councilhere is the list of results for the latest vote, and here is the initial posting of all the nominees that were votedon. [...]



By: Rick Moran

Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:01:16 +0000

One: Are you saying that we are not going to war with Iran? Or that we are? How can a question be a "faulty initial premise when there is no premise to be faulty? Two: I have endlessly covered the consequences of a US attack on Iran - endlessly. three: I raise every single "serious policy issue" being discussed and summarize them. And I would listen to arms control experts like Jeffrey Lewis and the Mossad before I would listen to the CIA who has been wrong about when every single nation who has the bomb today would get it. btw - the year 2010 is just about right at their current rate of production. And if you bothered reading anything I write you'd know I oppose going to war with Iran. But you're too busy trying to sound clever to make any kind of a valid point about me or my site. Ignoramus...



By: Gary Denton

Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:50:25 +0000

One - faulty initial premise. Two - no acknowledgement of the consequences if the United States attacked. Three - overall does not contribute anything worthwhile to the discussion of serious policy issues. Sounds like the right wing nut house all right. A 2005 US National Intelligence Estimate stated that IRAN was ten years from making a nuclear weapon In 2006 Ernst Uhrlau, the head of German intelligence, said Tehran would not be able to produce enough material for a nuclear bomb before 2010 and would only be able to make it into a weapon by about 2015. In 2006 two former CIA officials asserted that fear of a US attack is a significant factor in Iranian nuclear weapons policy. The 2007 US National Intelligence Estimate is said to state that Iran will not be able to build a nuclear bomb until at least 2010 and possibly 2015.



By: The Colossus of Rhodey

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:42:05 +0000

Watcher's Council results... And now...  the winning entries in the Watcher's Council vote for this week are Is War With Iran Now Just a Matter of Time? by Right Wing Nut House, and Dead Eyes by Acute Politics.  There was actually a tie......



By: The Glittering Eye » Blog Archive » The Council Has Spoken!

Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:07:27 +0000

[...] The Watcher’s Council has announced its picks for the most outstanding posts of the preceding week. The winning Council post was Right Wing Nut House’s post, “Is War With Iran Now Just a Matter of Time?”. Second place honors went to Bookworm Room’s “Freedom, But From What?”. [...]



By: steve sturm

Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:45:48 +0000

drango: your analogizing to a court case is another reason I hope no one you vote for ever becomes President. Courts don't prevent attacks, they merely serve to assign blame for attacks and crimes that have taken place and the damage inflicted. It is not enough to after the people who attack us, I want to go after the people before they attack us.



By: Pro Cynic

Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:07:58 +0000

"Well, I am afraid that I require it before I could support the killing of, at least, thousands, and the serious risk of kicking off world war 3." That is a prescription for national suicide. "But that’s just me I suppose. I just regard these people’s lives as important as those of my countrymen." Hopefully, it is just you. That's not the job of the US government, nor of any government. The first priority of any government under the social contract is to protect its own people from the predations of others. The job of the US government is to protect the US people, not the Iraqi people, not anyone else except to the extent it serves to protect the US. Because no one else has the legal or moral authority, or the ability, or the inclination to do it. If the US government does not do it, no one else will do it, and we will be unprotected. If they do determine that the Iraqi people are just as valuable to them as the American people, then they have committed a betrayal of the American people of the first magnitude and and deserve to be removed from power. "Don’t they? Can you provide a cite for this?" For starters, try these: http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/001446.php http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/002539.php http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/006888.php http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/007412.php http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/001875.php Of the blogs that I recall mentioning it, Captain's Quarters was the easiest place to search, easier than my own blog, where I discussed the matter some time ago. “It is immoral and irresponsible for the government of the US to allow its people, protection of whom is its reason for existence, to be held hostage to protect the people of Iraq.” Two things; 1) Isn’t that the exact situation that you are in now?" No. The American people are safer because Saddam Hussein is gone, as are the Iraqi people. We are no longer threatened by him. He can no longer deter us from action by using his people as de facto hostages or human shields for PR purposes. And please be intellectually consistent, How can we be "protecting the Iraqi people" when we are allegedly "terrorizing" or "killing" them? I hear a Vietnam reference coming. "2) Are you seriously suggesting that Saddam was a direct threat to the US? Seriously?" Um, yeah. Lessee, Saddam had (or was believed to have) WMD and to be continuing to develop them, in violation of the 1991 armistice. He had shown a willingness to use WMD before. He had said he wanted to attack the US. He had connections to every major terrorist group in the Middle East, including al Qaida. And al Qaida had shown on September 11 that they could be an effective delivery vehicle for such munitions. It would have been the perfect scenario for Saddam. Al Qaida delivers a devastating attack with his WMD on the US, but he keeps plausible deniability, and people like you would oppose any retaliation because you did not have "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" of Saddam's part in it and/or you cared more about Iraqi civilians than American civilians. "“There seem to be some interesting things going on there with WMD right now, the technology for which Syria did not have a few short years ago. Wonder where they got it from.” Same place most people do. Old chemistry books in the case of Mustard gas." And the appearance of chemical weapons (such as mustard gas and nerve agents, exactly what was used by Saddam) in Syria so soon after the fall of Saddam Hussein is, in your opinion, just a coincidence?



By: The Glittering Eye » Blog Archive » Eye on the Watcher’s Council

Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:35:01 +0000

[...] Right Wing Nut House, “Is War With Iran Now Just a Matter of Time?” [...]



By: Drongo

Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:15:32 +0000

"You will rarely if ever have “proof beyond a reasonable doubt.”" Well, I am afraid that I require it before I could support the killing of, at least, thousands, and the serious risk of kicking off world war 3. But that's just me I suppose. I just regard these people's lives as important as those of my countrymen. "No one who has examined the evidence, including the Senate Committee on Pre-War intelligence and the Iraq Survey Group—believes Iraq was not developing WMD. The existence of the programs, if not the weapons themselves (which is debatable given the ISG’s criteria) has been confirmed." Don't they? Can you provide a cite for this? "It is immoral and irresponsible for the government of the US to allow its people, protection of whom is its reason for existence, to be held hostage to protect the people of Iraq." Two things; 1) Isn't that the exact situation that you are in now? 2) Are you seriously suggesting that Saddam was a direct threat to the US? Seriously? "There seem to be some interesting things going on there with WMD right now, the technology for which Syria did not have a few short years ago. Wonder where they got it from." Same place most people do. Old chemistry books in the case of Mustard gas.