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Random data points: out of my grad school cohort, ...

2007-02-20T09:11:00.000-08:00

Random data points: out of my grad school cohort, two of us went to research I type schools and four went to teaching schools. Out of the four, one didn't like it and bailed back into the research world. Three seem to be enjoying the teaching life.

One kind of school to be cautious about: the teaching school with research aspirations. Imagine spending several years teaching a heavy load of CS classes, and then not getting tenure because you didn't pull in enough grants. This is happening these days largely, I think, at big-name liberal arts schools with recently-created MS and/or PhD programs. Obviously the assistant professors at these institutions are in a very difficult position since they are not given the resources needed to jump start a research career.



I read things all the time that make me wonder "Is...

2007-02-19T14:42:00.000-08:00

I read things all the time that make me wonder "Is this person actually in the same town as me?" But no, all dysfunctional programs are dysfunctional in the same way, and only happy departments are different.

Around here, one daren't even mention the possibility of NOT being R1 faculty. What, there are other jobs? Gasp.

I went to a SLAC, and I do think some things are better- the competetiveness (less), the (diminished) focus on cutthroat research, etc. On the other hand, the politics aren't always less vicious; 40% of my chem department quit in 2 years while I was there, including someone denied renewal against the unanimous recommendation of the department.

One of my undergrad chem professors had a tenured job at U of Chicago, and gave it up to work at Small Midwestern Liberal Arts College. I can put you in touch with him if you have any desire for his perspectives (in lieu of the ideal panel, alas). He claimed he wanted to spend more time with his family, but I don't know what the real reason was.



Hey, FCSGS, I may be able to point you towards a u...

2007-02-18T21:05:00.000-08:00

Hey, FCSGS, I may be able to point you towards a useful resource/mentor. Drop me an email (seejanecompute at yahoo dot com) if you're interested.



RHCD: Thanks for the great comment. I think "piec...

2007-02-18T14:36:00.000-08:00

RHCD: Thanks for the great comment. I think "pieces of Mentors" is a useful idea, and I've used it before. I actually have about 10 faculty here I talk to about 20 different things, but none yet about this particular issue. I'll keep looking.

I'm sorry you are feeling the same way, though, about having kids in industry. I wish you the best in figuring it out.

kb: Distributed Mentoring. Possibly a thesis topic for me, as long as it's "Real Time Distributed Mentoring with Safety Interlocks."



Ah. Other. That makes complete sense.I'm just afra...

2007-02-18T08:06:00.000-08:00

Ah. Other. That makes complete sense.

I'm just afraid of telling my department I want to stay here for fear of them telling me it's impossible. And the two people I have tried to tell haven't responded yet. I'm glad I have this friend, but I don't know any CS or EE people who recently took or are thinking of taking a job at a small liberal arts college. Nor, I suppose, do you.

I like the distributed mentorship model. I'll have to think about implementing that one in my life.



Why is it we can't get anyone to help answer quest...

2007-02-17T21:55:00.000-08:00

Why is it we can't get anyone to help answer questions? It's the same in corporate world I'm in. I can't have a frank discussion with anyone about how to navigate having kid(s) and a career as well all the women I work with our past thier child bearing ages and are not "career" women. Yet if if even broach the subject I'll get labeled as "going to take siginificant time off in the next X years there fore lets not promote her/give her opportunities" Well no shit my child bearing years coincide with my prime advancement years. It's enough to make my head spin.

Although while stuck at the salon i picked up O and read an intersting piece on finding mentors. How for women we're told you need "a mentor" and how the author figured out all this time that one mentor wasn't really possible but instead she had bits and pieces scattered around her life already. That's the model I'm using.

Dang that was longer than I thought.



I think it's "Other."I worry I've romanticised the...

2007-02-17T12:45:00.000-08:00

I think it's "Other."

I worry I've romanticised the whole "Liberal Arts College" thing. While I *know* that no job, no career, and no work environment is perfect, I actually have no idea on the real drawbacks of the small school. I think I want to have this conversation so that I know what to expect, the good and the bad, so that I don't show up totally unprepared.

You know, so I don't show up to the first day of work completely oblivious, like I showed up to University of GradShitTownVille.

I am glad that your friend reported it can happen. I'm glad it can happen.



Yep. I feel so out of touch that, even though my d...

2007-02-17T12:09:00.000-08:00

Yep. I feel so out of touch that, even though my department is supportive and etc., I can't seem to address anybody with the questions I really want answers to. (Will I be able to get a job once I finish all this?) On the positive side, I talked to a friend here in a very similar situation, and she has a job interview this month -- in the city. Wow. So she told me, "It can happen! It can!"

Do you really feel you need someone to help you decide what you want (wrt research school vs small college, I mean)? Or do you just need someone to affirm that it's ok that you don't want the same thing your department thinks you should want? And perhaps help you figure out how to get there?

Sigh. Hang in there.