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Not sure where you "picked me up" - I can remember...

2006-10-15T22:50:00.000-06:00

Not sure where you "picked me up" - I can remember when you were first linked by Cosh and (those were the days) Den Beste....I was already a regular at that point. Not sure who was your first large link at one of your amusing (THOSE were the days) posts on the trials of being a m****al tr***********ist - that was when I hopped aboard. I'd venture to guess that I was among your first 50 or so regular visitors.

I'm definitely not Goldstein. I would've been much funnier if I were.

Sorry for the late reply; given my heated reaction to this post, I thought a cooling-off period was in order. Was checking back to see if the tone had improved. It decidedly hasn't. I won't be back again. And no, not because you're bashing Republicans. Or even because you're exclusively bashing Republicans in every single post.

It all comes back to the sense of humor thing. You've become insanely self-righteous, and can't even see to see that, in a way that Althouse totally is not. Even in her most outrageous posts (which, unlike yours these days, are leavened by her less-politcal, more-personal musings which reveal her to be a human being, and a rather reasonable one), she is able to communicate the tongue being perhaps slightly in cheek -- that she would not be entirely shocked by the notion that reasonable people might disagree with her. (Of course, such subtleties might not register with people frothing to disagree with every word she writes.) Which, in turn, allows reasonable people to mentally register disagreement while still continuing to be regular visitors. For the record, I used to feel the same way about you. And no, it's not because of any change in my politics -- or in yours.



"JackGoff, you and my friend Helen have had proble...

2006-09-18T12:11:00.000-06:00

"JackGoff, you and my friend Helen have had problems since I went to the Blogger Beta--so I should probably ask, is anyone else having any trouble?"

I haven't been able to comment for a week, may be 2. It says Google/Blogger, but it really only accepts Google.

Ron O



>You don't seem to have a problem calling Ann far ...

2006-09-17T17:06:00.000-06:00

>You don't seem to have a problem calling Ann far worse things than Ann suggested about Jessica. Obviously you think that's warranted.>

Yup, that's right. Because whereas all Jessica did was stand for a publicity photo, ANN is being a bullying asshole, and despite Jessica's repeated requests for her to cease and desist, only kept upping the ante. So, yeah; it's warranted. Sort of in the same way, you know, when the school bully is pounding on someone and won't stop until people who're fed up and disgusted listening to the hurt cries and the giggles of the bully's sycophants finally team up, tear him off, and pound the shit out of him till he cries "uncle."

Except he never even DOES cry "uncle" much less god forbid "I'm sorry." Just starts whining about how HE'S the victim here;

and yeah. no frigging surprise there's not much sympathy here.

It has, for me at least, fuckall to do with the woman's age, looks, or even ideology. I have called out popular supposedly left-wing feminist bloggers for pulling exactly this same sort of crap, quite harshly. The only ERAL difference is, this is several orders of magnitude even beyond THAT wretched circus.

look, why don't the lot of you just freaking get over yourselves and your hangups with sex and women already? Seriously. Whatever you need to do. Go to a shrink, go to confession, go to a sex therapist, go boil your head, spank your inner moppet, WHATEVER; but get. past it. because you are SERIOUSLY fucking creepy.



that's an an excercise in self-serving hypocrisy. ...

2006-09-17T13:05:00.000-06:00

that's an an excercise in self-serving hypocrisy.

Uh-huh. Because Ilyka really did the same thing as Althouse by calling Althouse on her attacks against Jessica's pose in a stupid picture. Riiiight.

You people on the right have a problem with seeing true feminism it seems. You deride Bill Clinton fopr being a horn-dog and give Bush a pass when he tries to actively strip away the rights of women to abortion. Talk about priority problems.



Unwarranted? Who decides if a joke is warranted ...

2006-09-17T12:33:00.000-06:00

Unwarranted?

Who decides if a joke is warranted or not?

Same person who posts it. You don't seem to have a problem calling Ann far worse things than Ann suggested about Jessica. Obviously you think that's warranted.

You can argue about what's warranted forever but all that does is find justifications why your behavior is right and hers is wrong and that's an an excercise in self-serving hypocrisy.



Jan, judging by what passes for commenters at Alth...

2006-09-17T11:36:00.000-06:00

Jan, judging by what passes for commenters at Althouse and LGF, I'm glad I don't know any of them personally, because the majority are pretty despicable. I'll keep my 3 or 4 friends who aren't insane, thank you very much.

Also, the joke? Wasn't a joke so much as it was mudslinging. That you thought it was funny shows where your mind is.



The joke is obvious. And unwarranted. Maybe some...

2006-09-17T09:57:00.000-06:00

The joke is obvious.

And unwarranted.

Maybe some just don't have a sense of humor.

Yes, I'm sure that's the problem. Couldn't be that it's difficult to laugh when you're the butt of the joke, now, could it?



Other site's commentators? Please. You guys are pa...

2006-09-17T08:55:00.000-06:00

Other site's commentators? Please. You guys are patting yourself so hard on the back you must have sprained arms by now. Except unlike LGF or Althouse you've only got 3 or 4 people in the mutual admiration society.



This is just dumb. I bet when Leno and Letterman g...

2006-09-17T08:54:00.000-06:00

This is just dumb. I bet when Leno and Letterman get hold of the photo there'll be a whole routine on it.

The joke is obvious. Maybe some just don't have a sense of humor.



>and Dr. Helen has weighed in on this. Jessica's b...

2006-09-17T01:23:00.000-06:00

>and Dr. Helen has weighed in on this. Jessica's being a hypocrite for being upset that Ann's castigating her for having breasts because Krissy got "violent" with some guy in a bar and Jessica didn't get violent with Clinton.>

"Yehr, but, no, but, yeh but, no, but yeh but no because what 'appened was, everyone's sayin' Ann called Jessica a total slag, but shut up! she wasn't even there so shut up! anyway, well you know Helen--Helen! Helen-Helen. Instapundit-and-Helen? so anyway, Helen reckons it's because Krissy got -really- violent with this guy who called her a total slapper, but she is one anyway, shut up, and anyway she's not even supposed to be in the pub, everyone knows she's only nine, but so then there was this whole other thing that was just like that other thing where Monica had her hand down Billy Clinton's trackie bottoms."



So what's the problem?...

2006-09-17T00:53:00.000-06:00

So what's the problem?...



The only problem I have is that I'm logged into my...

2006-09-17T00:05:00.000-06:00

The only problem I have is that I'm logged into my Gmail account right now. And blogging at the same time.




And I'm reeeeally drunk.



dunno enough about Goldstein to speculate, but jus...

2006-09-17T00:03:00.001-06:00

dunno enough about Goldstein to speculate, but just notin': "onebodyand2faces" would be an excellent moniker for a sockpuppet. SOMEBODY's sockpuppet.



Y'all know I diss Jeff for plenty but I'll give hi...

2006-09-17T00:03:00.000-06:00

Y'all know I diss Jeff for plenty but I'll give him this, he doesn't sockpuppet. He posts under his own name. He OWNS his creepiness.

Good point. And now I've gone and used the wteezers joke for nothing.



omeyn.

2006-09-17T00:01:00.000-06:00

omeyn.



Y'all know I diss Jeff for plenty but I'll give hi...

2006-09-16T23:53:00.000-06:00

Y'all know I diss Jeff for plenty but I'll give him this, he doesn't sockpuppet. He posts under his own name. He OWNS his creepiness.

JackGoff, you and my friend Helen have had problems since I went to the Blogger Beta--so I should probably ask, is anyone else having any trouble? Not sure what I could do to fix it given that Blogger won't let you switch back once you start using the beta, but, well, I could apologize real nice and everything, I guess.

I just noticed that 1bodyand2faces left off "vapid gasbag." That pains me, because that was my favorite thing I called her. And if 1bodyand2faces is still around, I forgot to mention:

You don't like Ann Althouse. WE GET IT.

No, see, you definitely DON'T get it. I don't like the way Ann Althouse behaves; I think the pleas for civility she always issues after posting a nasty "blind item" or otherwise sneakily stirring the shit-pot are a joke. I think the way she leans on Instapundit is embarrassing. And I don't think she's very smart, and again, I can't say it enough, I really, really, really loathe the "I'm a real feminist but that whore, Jessica, is not" business.

But I don't actually know Ann as a person and I don't know that I would dislike her in person because I think everyone behaves a little goofily online. Yeah, including myself.

My problem isn't that I don't like Ann Althouse. My problem is that she started something that didn't need starting and now she won't own it, because she NEVER owns it. She hasn't the spine to.



Man, the drunkle google cookie blargh got me again...

2006-09-16T23:41:00.000-06:00

Man, the drunkle google cookie blargh got me again!



My money is on Jeff.

2006-09-16T23:39:00.000-06:00

My money is on Jeff.



I actually don't think that's Jeffy. I first noti...

2006-09-16T23:18:00.000-06:00

I actually don't think that's Jeffy. I first notice this commenter here (where I am accused by same of deleting an entire post based on, yes, 1b2f's comment), and Google indicates I probably picked 1b2f up from a blog called White Peril that I used to be on the roll of.



A lovely post, Ilyka. I don't want to hear another...

2006-09-16T23:06:00.000-06:00

A lovely post, Ilyka. I don't want to hear another word from you criticizing the tone of right-wing bloggers. NOT ANOTHER WORD.

Or else... what are you going to slap her with, Jeff? Advance warning might be appreciated: It's hard to fnd extra-small tweezers on short notice.



were you READING at places like "Little Green Foot...

2006-09-16T23:02:00.000-06:00

were you READING at places like "Little Green Footballs?"

Hahaha--I've never been big on LGF (I hate any blog where the first 10 comments are hoots-and-hollers about which commenter was "first!" so see also, Atrios) but I did used to read Ace of Spades all the time and I can't say Ace's crowd is much kinder.

So, yeah, I shouldn't call people fetid old bats, that's true, but for someone to get in high dudgeon about that while wingnuts are basically talking in rape fantasies . . . I'm sorry, I can't get that worked up about "fetid old bat."

1bodyand2faces obviously missed the thread in which I deleted a comment by MY OWN BOYFRIEND for making sexual insults about Ann Coulter, too. I am pretty strict and very consistent about not calling women bitches, whores, c----, etc. But, ooh, bats.



...and in a nested loop of irony, from the "Can I ...

2006-09-16T22:48:00.000-06:00

...and in a nested loop of irony, from the "Can I get a feminist" thread:

>>

from the Matt Welch link:

"Ann Outhouse is a bile bitch," "Ann Outhouse is a bile stool of the left," "She a vile bag of pus," "uglier than a dirty boot," a "dumb slut ... [and] Berkeley house whore," "nasty bitch," "snot," "ass hole" and "moonbat." One correspondent surmised, "perhaps she's dyslexic and intended to say that she wants her puss swamped with semen?."

My favorite comment, though was this: "When they have to stoop to insults, it's probably all they have left for their attacks."

I count 5-7 sexist insults vs. sex-neutral insults.
8:17 AM, November 17, 2005
Ann Althouse said...

Bruce: Those who were insulting me at LGF assumed I was a big lefty.

Meade: Read the whole thing -- at LGF. The tone is overwhelmingly, egregiously sexist...>>

Oh, my. I think I need a cigareet for this one.

or, well, no, the notion that in fact this person -is- considered some sort of left-winger/feminist AND that yes, Virginia, it really does get oh so much worse Over There,

well, just, um...damn, that's really depressing.

were you READING at places like "Little Green Footballs?" how?...I mean...

well, i suppose there's something mildly refreshing about people just coming right out with "dumb slut" and "house whore," as opposed to all this coy mincing around.

not really enough to make up for the nausea, though.

and no, I have no sympathy for this fool, either.


just: bemused. Is that the word? I think that's the word.



And I just want to make myself clear. When you qui...

2006-09-16T22:43:00.000-06:00

And I just want to make myself clear. When you quit blogging forever again in a couple of weeks -- and you will, you always do -- because you don't like the tone of debate....stuff it.

Excuse me--who the fuck are you? I've taken several breaks from blogging but it's news to me that any of them have been about "the tone of the debate." It's usually because I get too busy or too burnt out. It happens to everyone.

I don't know you from a hole in the ground, but it's clear you have a problem with me. Let me guess: "Hypocrisy?" Because I called another woman names, yes? Something like that? Well scooch in real close and let me explain something to you:

Nothing about feminism obligates me to be kind, or even civil, to dishonest, dehumanizing people--even if those people have vaginas.

Althouse has had other bloggers point out to her, explicitly, that Jessica did not behave flirtatiously with the former President or, for that matter, with anyone; she ignores this and continues to insist that Jessica posed "provacatively," even going so far as to claim that Jessica couldn't have assumed the pose she did without deliberately maneuvering her back to accent her breasts. She claims as proof that she's tried the pose herself and her boobs don't stand out like that--but Althouse doesn't have as large of breasts as Jessica does. It doesn't prove anything, except that Ann will go to any lengths to keep from admitting that what she said was needlessly catty and cruel.

AND SHE'S TRYING TO CLOAK HER CATTINESS AND CRUELTY IN THE GUISE OF "REAL FEMINISM." You're damn RIGHT I'm going to call her names for that. That is extremely offensive to me.

And that isn't all Althouse refuses to acknowledge. She won't admit she was clueless about the Feministing logo, she won't admit she misrepresented the intent and content of the feministing site, yadda yadda yadda. This disgusts me. A young woman gets the opportunity of a lifetime and all Ann's good for is to piss on it. People who do things like that are the joy-killers of planet Earth and I unapologetically despise them.

Not too fond of you, either, for that matter, because you don't seem bright enough to recognize the difference between calling someone a traitor, a whore, or a skank and calling someone old and stupid, which is what every dig I made at Althouse boiled down to. And I would never have brought up the age thing if Ann hadn't made it so clear that she felt Jessica's youth entitled her, as an older woman, to shame and reprove. See also here, especially:

This kind of incident is a perfect example of how so many people see women—especially young women. We’re there to be ogled or ridiculed. We have nothing else to offer.

So if Ann doesn't want to be covered in shit I suggest she quit bathing in it.

As for the dee-lightful irony of you claiming I am a hypocrite about civility when we're talking about Ann "I'm Above All That Coarse Behavior (But Not Really, Because I Am Textbook Passive-Aggressive)" Althouse--well! The mind wobbles. Indeed.



I rather get the impression that it isn't the rude...

2006-09-16T22:10:00.000-06:00

I rather get the impression that it isn't the rudeness that distresses her so much as, you know, the petty venality, the minging little spitefests disguised as something far grander, the rigid ideologues on both sides each complaining about the others' rigidity and closed-mindedness...

"It's not the heat, it's the stupidity."

Of course, she's more than capable of speaking for herself.



And I just want to make myself clear. When you qu...

2006-09-16T22:02:00.000-06:00

And I just want to make myself clear. When you quit blogging forever again in a couple of weeks -- and you will, you always do -- because you don't like the tone of debate....stuff it.