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Thank you for the post, pretty helpful info.

2012-03-06T05:07:46.371-05:00

Thank you for the post, pretty helpful info.



I'm the guy who wrote that DownWithTyranny pos...

2010-05-02T09:35:44.771-04:00

I'm the guy who wrote that DownWithTyranny post you quoted and even i find it unpleasant!



Since the gay scandal erupted over Idaho's 'family...

2007-08-29T13:47:00.000-04:00

Since the gay scandal erupted over Idaho's 'family-values' Senator Craig, I've had a large increase of folks viewing of this thread. I wonder why? ;)

Maybe waiting for the other shoe to drop?



Since the gay scandal erupted over Idaho's 'family...

2007-08-29T12:50:00.000-04:00

Since the gay scandal erupted over Idaho's 'family-values' Senator Craig, I've had a large increase of folks viewing of this thread. I wonder why? ;)

Greetings, yall!



If there were a reasonable chance that a conservat...

2007-08-21T07:26:00.000-04:00

If there were a reasonable chance that a conservative Democrat - who'd vote exactly the same way Graham does, including on gay issues - could win, then he'd be preferable, if only because he'd caucus w/ the Democrats. But how low are you willing to go on the basis of that possibility?

Not low at all.

Thing is, once someone is elected to the Senate from SC, they usually remain in the Senate until retirement or death, and that is ALSO a very unpleasant possibility. :(



See, it gets so complicated. :(Or so simple. Bad ...

2007-08-20T19:34:00.000-04:00

See, it gets so complicated. :(

Or so simple. Bad is better than worse. Graham is bad, but if any likely replacement is worse, then Graham, while bad, is better than any likely replacement. Most, if not all, politics is a choice of the lesser among evils.

If there were a reasonable chance that a conservative Democrat - who'd vote exactly the same way Graham does, including on gay issues - could win, then he'd be preferable, if only because he'd caucus w/ the Democrats. But how low are you willing to go on the basis of that possibility?

Whatever you think of the ethics of outing as practiced by, say, Michelangelo Signorile, the practice was hardly invented by the modern gay rights movement. It's long been a staple of gutter politics in culturally conservative areas of the country (i.e., where homosexuality is concerned, pretty much everywhere but the Castro, West Hollywood, & Greenwich Village), & the pretense that in the present SC context it's just a high-minded reaction to hypocrisy, rather than just another sordid example of the kind of nasty rumor-mongering politics practiced by, among others, Atwater & Rove, isn't entirely persuasive.

(Lest anyone forget, a Rove-inspired whispering campaign that the incumbant Governor, Ann Richards, was a big ole lesbian, played a non-trivial role in George W Bush's 1st election as Governor of Texas, which led to ...)



I am getting hits from Columbia, down there at sta...

2007-08-20T17:19:00.000-04:00

I am getting hits from Columbia, down there at state gov. Uh-oh!

Hi, Lindsey! (Or, hi Lindsey's staff!) Stop voting against gay adoption!!!!



I don't oppose outing closeted folks who actively ...

2007-08-20T09:41:00.000-04:00

I don't oppose outing closeted folks who actively and publicly promote anti-gay attitudes and legislation. I do, on the other hand, oppose outing celebrities when the motive is pure gossip. I think its silly to be closeted in the first place, but mostly it makes me sad that people feel they need to go there at all.



Could anybody to his left get electedNopeor is all...

2007-08-19T17:06:00.000-04:00

Could anybody to his left get elected

Nope

or is all of this more likely to lead to a primary defeat by an even more reactionary Republican, who'd then go on to win in Nov?

Yep!

See, it gets so complicated. :(



oh sorry, that last was me, bryce.

2007-08-19T15:33:00.000-04:00

oh sorry, that last was me, bryce.



i disagree he's getting more powerful. lg will bur...

2007-08-19T15:32:00.000-04:00

i disagree he's getting more powerful. lg will bury himself soon enough, so fuck him.

the campaign commercials by his sister trying to make him look -respectable- were pretty obvious.



I don't follow politicians close enough to give an...

2007-08-19T00:47:00.000-04:00

I don't follow politicians close enough to give any opinion of specific individuals, but I think in theory sometimes it would be best to out someone. But, I think it would depend on what they were supporting/supported, who would replace them, how you out them, what the most likely outcomes are, etc. And I think it should only be done sparingly because I think it is wrong. Moreover, with xtian/Republicans, many seem to go "ex-gay" and then they become a problem again.



Yuh, it is unpleasant. And I wonder what people w...

2007-08-18T23:23:00.000-04:00

Yuh, it is unpleasant. And I wonder what people would propose to replace him with. I don't know SC politics. Could anybody to his left get elected, or is all of this more likely to lead to a primary defeat by an even more reactionary Republican, who'd then go on to win in Nov?